Support for Monarchy dwindling

[TheHaplessWit]

Support for Monarchy now down to 45%

Following on from the previous yougov polls, it seems the constant negativity about Andrew, Sarah Ferguson, William dodging tax / evicting people, Charles ignoring his brothers actions etc... has pushed royal support down to 45%.

How long until a future election process includes a party saying they'll have a referrendum on the Monarchy as part of their manifesto? probably not next time (3 years), but maybe the one after that?

@FruAashild @Playingvideogames

FYI .Trump and Farage are irrelevant. You are saying we would have an executive president. We would not . We would have a PM and a powerless figurehead president

All the talk of it being ‘too complicated’ ‘too difficult’ is a red herring. It’s not . Many countries managed to remove their monarchy smoothly in the 20th century with relative ease . Italy did it in 1946 after a war. I think we’d manage .

I have attended a talk given by Camilla Tominey. She is beyond awful. I prepared my question to her very very carefully and she was not expecting it and hated it. And gave such a ridiculously waffly answer that went on and on and didn't answer the question, but then rudely dismissed me. Given it was a question about Andrew and this was last year, I think I showed some foresight.. I was then forced into her slightly distant company for a few days, she was rude. She is a royalist through and through and she will defend them to the hilt whatever they have done. Seeing her socially made me realise how unlikeable she is.

As a contrast, Radio5 Live was good this morning. Nicki Campbell had on Royal reporters, a historian, a DM journalist and the public. Only the DM journo showed any bias towards Andrew and that was only slight. Every single other person was a mixture of incensed and puzzled by the whole thing.

An institution which protected pedophiles has no majesty .

I’m a republican but I don’t think getting rid of them will make much difference tbh.

The Royal family are the monkeys not the organ grinder, they are simply the mild mannered midwitted face of the British aristocratic elite. The smart ones keep well out of any public royal business. We can stop recognising the royal family but the wealth and influence behind them will continue.

I disagree

Getting rid of entrenched privilege and having a family above the law will make a difference to our society. Of course it will .

The first thing I would do would be to cut their finances to the bone. The royals only behave if someone is holding their purse strings. William and Kate would be far less lazy and entitled if they weren’t garlanded in tens of millions annually for nothing.

The second thing I would do is cut their press offices completely. Require them to have their press handled by a govt department. No sweetheart deals, no hiding behind a sychophsntic royal rota no insane briefing against each other and telling lies about each other to cover up their own failings.

The third thing I would do is require them to live in the royal palaces. Buckingham, Windsor, Kensington st James. That’s it. They want a holiday they go to Sandringham or balmoral.

I wouldn’t say an example from 1946 is relevant now.

Tbh although I totally acknowledge the inequality aspect of it, I just don’t care. The money they cost is tiny in the scheme of things. I just don’t want any more change. I’m exhausted from change. I want things to stay the same.

It would have to go much much further than just the royal family though. We should get rid of all titles, all inherited peerages. All their land should be taken back too!

The fourth thing I would do is require them to work for their income. Do what the government requires them to do. 40 hours a week from 25-60, 30 hrs a week from 60-75, they can retire at 75. If they don’t like it they get a job buy a house and make their own way without a single penny of state support.

Much of it is farmland. What would we do with it in public possession?

The fifth thing I would do is cancel all the special treatment. Pay tax, publish your wills, publish your accounts, audit the jewels and artworks snd chattels all of which should be state owned. Let transparency be the order of the day.

See how that works. If it doesn’t, abolish them in favour of a president who can work within that framework.

Agree with all you say @Delphigirl

We can but wish

Easy to do. No justification at all for the awful financially illiterate deal that Cameron did when he replaced the civil list. No reason at all to carve chunks out of Windsor great park and hand it to Kate at vast expense security-wise just because they don’t want the public to spot that she and William are separated. Leaving vast palaces empty.

Well they're either pedophiles or pedophile sympathisers so no, I don't like the royal family at all.

I'm with @Playingvideogames no more change, not for a while, we have had enough and constant change makes the country look weak.

I also lean towards better the devil you know.

A powerless elected head of state might be cheaper than a King or Queen, but also has less gravitas. The continuity of monarchy is seen by many as strength and unity.

These comments about Will and Kate which sound very much like conspiracy or simply mean girl gossip and completely undermine the points you were making. I wish people would stick to facts rather than rumors. Its why Republic doesn't get more traction, because they cant resist one more dig which makes them sound unhinged.

@FlyingApple says all that needs to be said. IF its proven the royal family knew all along that Andrew was engaged in illegal activity and covered it up then they are not fit for the positions they hold.

No justification at all for the awful financially illiterate deal that Cameron did when he replaced the civil list.

It was pushed through and QE2 loved it.

The continuity of monarchy is seen by many as strength and unity.

Not much of that going on at the moment, unless you mean they are all united in covering up for Andrew....

Interestingly, Prince Phillip was on some chat show or other in the US back in 1969 bleating that the royal family are really quite poor now, they might have to move into smaller promises (wtaf?) and they have had to sell a small yacht, and he might even have to give up polo.
Some dockers in Bermondsey offered to start a collection for him 🤣

How interesting that his son is worth £1.8billion now, and his grandson will be a double billionaire when he takes the throne.

Cameron assisted in their riches.

I think we are witnessing the beginning of the end of the Royal Family.

My opinion is that they should go, but unfortunately they never will. As a compromise the lazy scrounging grifters should pay their own way.

They're a waste of money. The late Queen's funeral cost approximately £150m. The King's Coronation cost us approximately £72 million (although it was probably more!)

Probably won't be many years before we have to foot similar bills. It's fucking criminal!

How fascinating simpsonthecat

Doesn’t surprise me at all about CT!

I shall switch my allegiance to Radio5 Live immediately! 😃👍

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Yup, that made me want to laugh, then cry!

One can only despair really!