Support for Monarchy dwindling

[TheHaplessWit]

Support for Monarchy now down to 45%

Following on from the previous yougov polls, it seems the constant negativity about Andrew, Sarah Ferguson, William dodging tax / evicting people, Charles ignoring his brothers actions etc... has pushed royal support down to 45%.

How long until a future election process includes a party saying they'll have a referrendum on the Monarchy as part of their manifesto? probably not next time (3 years), but maybe the one after that?

LOL brilliant. Shame we seem to be beyond satire now!

Ironically I started watching this from the beginning a few weeks ago.

Brilliant.

Yes the monarchy has survived scandals before, but the Epstein fallout is fundamentally different. This isn’t just another tawdry sex scandal that is going to go away with silence and time. It underscores how deeply protected and insulated the entire institution is, from state media like the BBC acting as their PR mouthpiece, to legal frameworks designed to block transparency and accountability. The entire system is built to shield itself at all costs.

But for me, more than anything else, the reason why I think the monarchy is not going to last for another millennia is that demographics have shifted in a way the monarchy can’t outrun. Younger generations don’t feel instinctive deference, don’t mythologise the Crown and most importantly, aren't leaning more conservative as they age as other generations have. The cohort most emotionally invested in the crown (60+) is literally dying out. Support will continue to erode...not suddenly but through steady attrition as their Little England supporters die off and as expectations of transparency and accountability rise.

It won't happen in the next decade or two, probably not in my lifetime (30's) but in about 70-80 years, maybe longer. It will happen though. The world is changing far too quickly.

I agree. This isnt just a personal sex scandal either. Its not just embarrassing family stuff like affairs or divorces . Even Edward VIII being well dodgy was kept secret and couched as a 'love v crown issue. There is also the different of TLQ not only not being there as the ' Nations Granny' but being shown to have been a massive enabler to her dodgy son.
Ive said before I think the last Monarch has already been born. Either William or one of his children will see the end of it.

I really wonder how it's going to happen though? It's hard to imagine that there will be riots and a "statue toppling" type of revolution that ends the monarchy. Will they eventually concede to a referendum? Or will they end it voluntarily with a semi explosive statement if Andrew eventually gets trialled and found guilty?

Talk of ‘revolution’ is a way to shut down debate .

It will be disgust that finishes them and it’s happening now on a large scale .

The post you replied to suggested it would probably happen gradually over decades. And that's likely how it will go as older people die off and younger people of the time lack interest in them.

Is there anyone who has suggested it's going to happen in a grand manner because that seems very improbable?

The RF will limp along regardless. Too many people need the largesse and gongs/connections to have any interest in seeing them off.

Only way is for Parliament to work for the people, not the RF. Get going on a proper written Constitution that puts Parliament first. Introduce effective checks and balances on a statutory annual basis for the funding of the RF. Have the monarch appear before a committee annually to account for his/her actions, spendings, charity donations and whatever else I might inelegantly mean!

Open it up, let the light in please and hold the RF to account for their actions/inactions.

The fact that the RF seem to be able to gallop along solely in their own lane with no repercussions for wrong doing is making law abiding citizens a bit fed up now I reckon. Lead by example.

A constitution is much needed IMO

So agree with your post @crascenda

I think it was QE2 or even QM who said... if you let the light in, you lose the magic.

How convenient.

I've never been a fan of the monarchy but I think Charles is value-driven and thoughtful and actually a good leader.

William appears utterly vapid, doesn't seem to attend church or have any faith to speak of - which is going to be weird for the head of the CofE. I don't see how anyone can find him appealing as a leader or head of state/church.

I remember this!

It’s starting to feel like there’s a spotlight being shone into the depths of a very murky pond, goodness knows what lurks in the muddy gloop on the bottom…..

It was actually walter Bagehot, in his 1867 book The English Constitution, but the RF seem to have seized on the idea and lived by it ever since

As it should. Honestly I wouldn't be surprise that it's lower, despite vanity polls like the yougov ones.

It's not only the Epstein stuff but it helped to expose a lot of things indeed.

It feels like the end to me. Its been one scandal after another, divorces and sex scandals all over the place.
The whole CofE think makes me want to convert to catholicism.

Why are you posting on all the old threads on the board?

It had been long that I didn't post and it was still in my notifications. I suppose it's allowed to post, the subject is still relevant

It hasn’t been that long. Three peaks was last month. Anyway, welcome back.

7 threads , one from February.

This is not the three peaks thread .

Thanks! I think it's an important discussion indeed specially because I see that there's a push in British media to try to make seem otherwise in a way that doesn't reflect reality.

I think the RF need to change and become more like a European RF. Live in a more humble way, only direct members get funding ,everyone else has a job. King/Queen need to be an example to the country and get involved in making things better for everyone. I like Kate/William and I think that they will be great. I like Charles/Camilla but obviously Charles is quite old school and lives a very ostentacious life. If we got rid of them , they would still own much of the UK and be super rich so it all feels a bit pointless really.

Not an unreasonable idea.

Don’t really agree about Charles being ostentatious - he’s often seen wearing 30 year old clothing and has always done a great deal to promote conservation.