Support for Monarchy dwindling

[TheHaplessWit]

Support for Monarchy now down to 45%

Following on from the previous yougov polls, it seems the constant negativity about Andrew, Sarah Ferguson, William dodging tax / evicting people, Charles ignoring his brothers actions etc... has pushed royal support down to 45%.

How long until a future election process includes a party saying they'll have a referrendum on the Monarchy as part of their manifesto? probably not next time (3 years), but maybe the one after that?

‘Now we hear differently’

Which is why I was asking the question.

What are we hearing
Is it in the released files or somewhere else. I can’t find anything definitive online / in the news.

I see a Google response re funds from chalet sale as follows
‘ While the exact net profit after paying off the mortgage, debts, and fees was not publicly disclosed, the sale did provide the necessary capital for the settlement. ‘. ( no source given )

Apart from papers speculating in the past the pp mentioned Now we know…Suggesting something new and definitive has since come to light.

I Would be interested to know.

any Times articles are behind a paywall so I can’t read anything there.

@DrPrunesqualer

Surely you’ve seen the multiple archiveph links on these threads . You can access articles that way

That is the problem. Why should Prince William be incredibly popular? You think he is miraculously different from the rest? He is part of the system. Has he come out and condemn the donor to his Earthshot? See how long it took him to make a statement and he would not have done so on his own volition absent public pressure.

This is the root of the problem; putting people on pedestal without them demonstrating any attributes to be put there. Instead, we ignore all the facts that says they should not be held up high and instead buy into the false narratives painted by the media that they control. All these powerful men and connected, giving each other a veneer of respectability despite them being utterly corrupt.

I do not think William will be any different. He will be beholden to the same forces that have tainted them all.

Stop worshipping these people. It's that worship that is causing them to behave this way.

The only relevant article linked is from Apple News which links to the Times which I can’t tead
Its headliner references ‘the king says he did not pay towards Andrews settlement’
No other article here relates to that subject

So nothing here and nothing new I can find by searching
The pp suggested something new and definitive had come to light so I assumed they’d confirm where they saw it
I can’t find anything.

Are you aware of the source and I’ll search it

Based on his personality , lack of work ethic and secrecy I believe William will be much worse

He is continuing to be silent in the face of the horrific links to the donation to Earthshot

The Times article confirms that there was no money resulting from the sale of the chalet

So the Windsors covered it all . Who exactly is still being somewhat obscured .

Apologies @DrPrunesqualer, that was my link I get a number of papers and news with Apple News ! I didn’t realise that not everyone could read it , there is apparently ways to archive articles but I’m not sure how , there is apparently couple of posters who do know and help but I’m not sure they are on this thread.

Please can anyone share an archive link of the Times article for those of us without a subscription?

Archive link, @jeffgoldblum and @DrPrunesqualer:

https://archive.md/

Bring it up, copy and paste the address bar of the site you want into it and hey presto

Yes well, in my fantasy world where people actually do what they are supposed to do, and MP's, Parliament, Public Account Committees and the press actually do what they are supposed to do, they may think its a price worth paying. Their lifes work is keeping themselves on the Throne. They do all the other stuff to save themselves from the chopping block. so they may do that.

Many thanks @Puzzledandpissedoff you are a star 🌟.

I loathe the idea of the monarchy. It’s outdated and we’ve got absolutely no need for them. People go on about them bringing in tourism and, yes, I’m sure they bring a little bit but people don’t come to the UK purely to see the RF. They won’t be missed.

I have a Times subscription. This is what it says. I think this makes it worse for the rest of them. 1.5m from 'other members of the family? But not The King? Who?

According to The Sun around £7 million came from the late Queen as a “loan”, with a further £3 million from the estate of his father Prince Philip. A further £1.5 million was reported to have been contributed by other members of the royal family. It is understood, however, that the King did not contribute.

Here is the article in full for anyone who is unable to access it.

https://archive.ph/PLljW

Thanks
really appreciate people who post links. It’s on me for not paying for the subscription though

Thanks to all

Thankyou @IAmATorturedPoet, you are a godsend who always helps when an archived post is needed!( especially me! 😳) .

No worries, I don’t pay one either because I have Apple News premium, it must be included 🤔 , I don’t get daily mail stories though! 🤷‍♀️
do read the whole article provided by @IAmATorturedPoet, it’s important because certain paragraphs taken in isolation doesn’t provide the whole story.

☺️You are very welcome @jeffgoldblum

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So here’s the relevant parts

‘According to The Sun around £7 million came from the late Queen as a “loan”, with a further £3 million from the estate of his father Prince Philip. A further £1.5 million was reportedly contributed by other members of the royal family. It is understood, however, that the King did not contribute.’
source the Sun and I’ve read a sun article ( from a while ago ) but they don’t state a source or quote or anything

‘It is understood that private funds from the royal family were paid to help Andrew with the payout because they believed he was innocent of all the accusations. He has always denied wrongdoing.
He would also have had to find a substantial sum on top of the settlement to cover his legal bills.
A source told The Sun: “As far as anyone knows he still has not repaid a single penny of the millions he borrowed.’
is that source from the Palace or someone who actually knows anything at all.

This came out a while ago in the Sun and an article in The Mirror aswell
I assumed by the pps post of ‘we know now’ there had been recent intel
There hasn’t

We do know he made a financial settlement
We don’t know how much it was for sure and
so far we don’t know where it came from.
Perhaps that will form part of an investigation. We don’t know.

have searched again and see GB news are copying the same from the Times from the Sun.

I archive a lot of articles. I'd be broke if I paid for all the media I read

I was just about to type out how, but see someone else has done it.

Agree
we pay for the Indi but that’s it.
So thanks to all the archivists on mumsnet

Indeed @DrPrunesqualer, we don’t know anything for certain at this time, it’s always best not to take everything as gospel until you have read it yourself, I got caught previously believing something on here but after reading multiple sources and checking it wasn’t as cut and dry as I was led to believe!

Yes Agree
Think we’re back to square one on this

but I’m one of those irritating mumsnetters constantly asking for the source and stats. I’ve probably got a bad name for that on here 🤣🤣
note to self ..change username 😆