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Optics Check: Waleses public support for Andrew: William and Catherine’s driving and embracing Andrew is a massive error?

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Foxypuppy · 02/02/2026 11:55

Are the Waleses and the Andrew Unity Drive A bridge too far? Seriously, why were William and Catherine protecting Andrew?

I’ve always been a supporter of the Prince and Princess of Wales, but I am finding it harder and harder to defend their recent excuses and petty behavior regarding 'family unity'.

Specifically, I’m looking at the optics of William personally driving Prince Andrew to church at Balmora Daily Mail report here

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12449837/Prince-William-drives-disgraced-uncle-Prince-Andrew-church-Balmoral.html

This wasn't just a family carpool; it was a deliberate, televised statement of support. William was in the driver's seat, Andrew in the passenger seat, and Catherine in the back.

At the same time, we have royal commentators like Jennie Bond stating that William and Catherine would 'rather have Andrew as a neighbour than Meghan and Harry. Independent article here

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/william-kate-meghan-harry-frogmore-b2295732.html.

I understand that family dynamics are complicated and that they feel betrayed by the Sussexes' interviews. However:

  1. Harry and Meghan are a family feud involving books and Netflix deals, though they couldnt protect Meghan against racism, not even make an statement
  2. Prince Andrew is a man associated with Jeffrey Epstein, impliyed in e-mails to ne object in the death of a girl, hes a well known liar and with multi-million dollar settlement alongside much other bizarre stuff.

How can William and Catherine justify being part of the face of Andrew’s rehabilitation even after he was impliyed while being so publicly cold toward William’s own brother? Does anyone else feel like their moral compass is slightly off here? Surely a sister-in-law isn't worse than the Andrew crimes? Why he royal family and media even tried to protect him and only acted this year?

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ThePoshUns · 02/02/2026 18:35

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Rhaidimiddim · 02/02/2026 19:45

Mylovelygreendress · 02/02/2026 17:00

Maybe in Spare 2 ?

I wonder if Meghan got any insights from her Soho House buddy Eugenie on what went on between her parents anf Epstein. That would boost sales.

BemusedAmerican · 02/02/2026 19:47

They obviously should have tied Andrew to a wing and flown him to his mither's deathbed.

Rhaidimiddim · 02/02/2026 19:48

It is, apparently, A Thing on social media today - the sugars trying to tarnish W&K by pushing the narrative that they are AMW buddies/ sympathisers.

Ukisgaslit · 02/02/2026 19:55

The Windsors have no problem with Andrew.
He was flown with the rest of them to balmoral . Then driven by William to the castle.
He was driven by William to church to ensure a photo - Andrew in the front - just as deliberate and brazen as when Elizabeth did the same.

We saw Andrew stroll up to William at the recent funeral . Both laughing until William realised - wait a minute the current PR line is I hate you - covered his mouth then to hide whatever he was saying .
This is ridiculous. Clearly any fool can see the so called punishment’ of Andrew is for public image reasons and is a lie. He’s right there with the Windsors and always has been.
They have all known for years and their belated actions are rank hypocrisy.

William is not alone in still supporting Andrew. None of them have an issue with friends of pedophiles and sex offenders. Dear uncle Dickie was a prolific pedophile.

Mylovelygreendress · 02/02/2026 19:56

Rhaidimiddim · 02/02/2026 19:48

It is, apparently, A Thing on social media today - the sugars trying to tarnish W&K by pushing the narrative that they are AMW buddies/ sympathisers.

Have seen some unpleasant stuff including comments about William’s upcoming trip to Saudi Arabia ! There seems to be a lack of understanding about the fact that the Government has asked him to go.

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 20:01

Ukisgaslit · 02/02/2026 14:37

@Mylovelygreendress
William engages with Andrew . He covers his mouth to speak to Andrew. If he was saying ‘sling your hook ‘- why cover his mouth ?

In fact the more pertinent point is that Andrew approached William with familiar ease . Just as he does behind closed doors no doubt

If you want ‘recent ‘ news the Mirror reported that William was v concerned for Andrew . No concern for the trafficked girls however .

Im hearing you. You are totally coreect, William was laughing with Andrew after all the exposed pixtures and hiding. This is not even the worse though.

Mylovelygreendress · 02/02/2026 20:03

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 20:01

Im hearing you. You are totally coreect, William was laughing with Andrew after all the exposed pixtures and hiding. This is not even the worse though.

Rubbish .

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 20:10

Mylovelygreendress · 02/02/2026 20:03

Rubbish .

Respctfully, agree to disagree. We should be reporting the truth instead of dismissing it, William was laughing and interacting publicly with Andrew after he was accused and there was pictures of him with Ghislaine and Epstein including that one where they are sitting on the throne

Mylovelygreendress · 02/02/2026 20:11

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 20:10

Respctfully, agree to disagree. We should be reporting the truth instead of dismissing it, William was laughing and interacting publicly with Andrew after he was accused and there was pictures of him with Ghislaine and Epstein including that one where they are sitting on the throne

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Respectfully, rubbish.

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 20:15

Mylovelygreendress · 02/02/2026 20:11

Respectfully, rubbish.

Respectfully, thats a bad argument

Rhaidimiddim · 02/02/2026 20:16

Mylovelygreendress · 02/02/2026 20:03

Rubbish .

Tag teaming.

The pigeons are among us.

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 20:22

SirChenjins · 02/02/2026 15:41

If only one of the Windsors had written a tell all book about the family where they could have shared everything they all knew about A and Epstein

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But its not Harry that was seen publicly with Andrew after he was persecuted by law for assaulting, trafficking and association with pedophiles and also its not Harry who is the heir and future head of estate who is privy of secrets and was seen laughing, driving, and photographed with Andrew arguably trying to rehabilitated his rapey uncle image, with media reporting William and catherine were alright being Andrew's neighboor. That was Prince William and Catherine. Those are the facts

Lunde · 02/02/2026 20:30

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 20:22

But its not Harry that was seen publicly with Andrew after he was persecuted by law for assaulting, trafficking and association with pedophiles and also its not Harry who is the heir and future head of estate who is privy of secrets and was seen laughing, driving, and photographed with Andrew arguably trying to rehabilitated his rapey uncle image, with media reporting William and catherine were alright being Andrew's neighboor. That was Prince William and Catherine. Those are the facts

Didn't Harry arrive at Westminster Abbey with the Yorks for King Charles' coronation?

Lunde · 02/02/2026 20:31

Ukisgaslit · 02/02/2026 19:55

The Windsors have no problem with Andrew.
He was flown with the rest of them to balmoral . Then driven by William to the castle.
He was driven by William to church to ensure a photo - Andrew in the front - just as deliberate and brazen as when Elizabeth did the same.

We saw Andrew stroll up to William at the recent funeral . Both laughing until William realised - wait a minute the current PR line is I hate you - covered his mouth then to hide whatever he was saying .
This is ridiculous. Clearly any fool can see the so called punishment’ of Andrew is for public image reasons and is a lie. He’s right there with the Windsors and always has been.
They have all known for years and their belated actions are rank hypocrisy.

William is not alone in still supporting Andrew. None of them have an issue with friends of pedophiles and sex offenders. Dear uncle Dickie was a prolific pedophile.

Can you give a source (not AI) of William "laughing" with Andrew?

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 20:34

Lunde · 02/02/2026 20:31

Can you give a source (not AI) of William "laughing" with Andrew?

It was already postei, if you can see...

BemusedAmerican · 02/02/2026 20:41

Can you post a photo of William with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell?

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 20:41

Thedom · 02/02/2026 15:01

No one is saying they are saintly, but trying to attach two brief public encounters with Andrew in an attempt to taint them with the accusations against Andrew is a stretch.

As others have said, if that is how it goes then why not ask why Harry, when he was spilling the beans on his family, studiously ignored the biggest scandal of recent times involving his uncle? What about the company Harry and Meghan keep, and accept handouts from, Tyler Perry, Oprah et al?

William and Catherine don’t have anything like that hanging over them.

By your logic Catherine needs to explain a lot why she was hanging out with people implied in the Epstein files, including Branson

She had a lot of party and yacht meertings with Richard Branson, which business were they talking about as she is not a business woman, do anyone know what Catherine was doing with friends of Epstein besides partying?

Catherine with Branson

www.lbc.co.uk/article/sir-richard-branson-harem-epstein-5HjdRg8_2/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKNCVcBWUAAfIH5.png

Lunde · 02/02/2026 20:42

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 20:34

It was already postei, if you can see...

I don't see it - was it in one of your posts that have been deleted?

I have watched the footage and see William looking deeply uncomfortable and trying not to make eye contact apart from a frosty glare but I don't see laughing.

ThePoshUns · 02/02/2026 20:48

BemusedAmerican · 02/02/2026 20:41

Can you post a photo of William with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell?

Yes this is a new one on me, and lease link

Muddyotter567 · 02/02/2026 20:50

BemusedAmerican · 02/02/2026 13:26

You must all have perfect families. I'm really envious.

Thankfully most of us don’t have to pay out £12 million to prevent a son or a sibling having to face charges in court!

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 20:54

Lunde · 02/02/2026 20:42

I don't see it - was it in one of your posts that have been deleted?

I have watched the footage and see William looking deeply uncomfortable and trying not to make eye contact apart from a frosty glare but I don't see laughing.

I see differently. WIlliam was holding a laugh and easily seen publicly with him.

Didn’t need briefings or even headlines for what that family was actively doing, which was trying to bring Andrew back into the fold even up until Sept 2025 when he was last pictured out with 4 seniors royals. Its very weird at the least and amoral, i wouldnt want anything to do with him after women accusing him of abuse, and victims should be believed. Also big side eye with Catherine being a motjer and working with children development and being ok with it all

SirChenjins · 02/02/2026 21:09

Lunde · 02/02/2026 20:42

I don't see it - was it in one of your posts that have been deleted?

I have watched the footage and see William looking deeply uncomfortable and trying not to make eye contact apart from a frosty glare but I don't see laughing.

Same. His uncomfortable body language is very clear - he's being civil as is required at a televised funeral out of respect for the D of K and her family,knowing that the cameras will be on him at some point, but not speaking to or laughing with A, avoiding eye contact, and certainly not mirroring A's attempts to engage him in conversation.

Lunde · 02/02/2026 21:14

Chosendolphin · 02/02/2026 20:54

I see differently. WIlliam was holding a laugh and easily seen publicly with him.

Didn’t need briefings or even headlines for what that family was actively doing, which was trying to bring Andrew back into the fold even up until Sept 2025 when he was last pictured out with 4 seniors royals. Its very weird at the least and amoral, i wouldnt want anything to do with him after women accusing him of abuse, and victims should be believed. Also big side eye with Catherine being a motjer and working with children development and being ok with it all

Sorry I don't see that at all

Lunde · 02/02/2026 21:31

SirChenjins · 02/02/2026 21:09

Same. His uncomfortable body language is very clear - he's being civil as is required at a televised funeral out of respect for the D of K and her family,knowing that the cameras will be on him at some point, but not speaking to or laughing with A, avoiding eye contact, and certainly not mirroring A's attempts to engage him in conversation.

He looks angry to me more than anything - clenched jaw, leaning away

He starts to lean away from AMW and speaks to the people behind - and does smile at something the people behind say to him (Kate, Sophie, Tim and Anne I think). Looks really pissed off that AMW is scuttling around trying to follow them an get in centre shot.

The only person who does smile at something AMW says is Charles

William also executes the perfect cut was he steps across AMW with his back to him to speak to the priest before leaving.

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