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Andrew - continuing his effort to end the Monarchy

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TheHaplessWit · 10/01/2026 01:37

Another new story on Andrew today. Photo's have emerged showing that on Epstein's desk, there were emails regarding Epstein paying debts owed by Andrew/Sarah to staff:

https://people.com/epstein-had-emails-staff-ex-prince-andrew-sarah-ferguson-new-photos-show-11880419

Why on Earth was a Prince of England having his staff paid by a sex trafficker?
Doesn't seem "too honourable" to me.

Epstein Had Emails from Staff of Ex-Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson on His Desk in Newly Shared Photos

New photos from Jeffrey Epstein's New York home appear to show an email exchange between former staffers for ex-Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson.

https://people.com/epstein-had-emails-staff-ex-prince-andrew-sarah-ferguson-new-photos-show-11880419

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ThePoshUns · 31/01/2026 12:47

TheDaysAreGettingLongerAgain · 31/01/2026 11:00

Picture of Prince Andrew down on all fours over the prostrate body of a young Russian girl/woman 2 years AFTER Epstein's conviction for people trafficking.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/01/30/andrew-ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-files/

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I didn’t notice the timings of it. Even worse.

CathyorClaire · 31/01/2026 12:48

does the place belong to the State?

According to Norman Baker's book 'Royal Mint, National Debt' there's an argument to be made that both Sandringham and Balmoral belong to the state in that they were purchased with funds diverted from an increase in Civil List funding bleated for negotiated by Albert after his marriage to Victoria.

Reddog1 · 31/01/2026 12:58

ThePoshUns · 31/01/2026 12:47

I didn’t notice the timings of it. Even worse.

Ugggh I didn’t notice that either.

Mylovelygreendress · 31/01/2026 13:07

AnnunciataM · 31/01/2026 09:55

You'd hope, but as long as the sycophants are around and as long as the Windsors keep trotting out the children at Christmas to keep them happy, will anything change?

Even on Mumsnet it seems posters would rather froth over Meghan's jam or rave about Catherine's hair than discuss less palatable topics like Andrew's misdemeanors. Who knows what other revelations are to come?

As has been said so many times , 99.9% of posters agree that AMW is a despicable , disgusting individual so threads about him tend to all be in agreement.
I don’t think anyone “ froths” over Meghan’s spread , most people treat it as a joke .

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/01/2026 13:10

RainbowBagels · 31/01/2026 10:19

Oh I think they all knew. BP is crawling with staff. Andrew couldnt have sneaked a legion of underage girls into Sandringham without anyone knowing, or entertained Epstein without anyone in the household knowing. But TLQ was in charge. No one could do anything without her say so, and she refused to deal with it. She was Charles' mother too. She ignored him on this and has left him to deal with it.

Good luck with that, RainbowBagels; as we see every time, "They didn't know" is the go-to, and still some will buy it

As for suggestions that poor Charles has had this dumped on him by his mother, why on earth would he care about his brother enabling a paedophile when he's done precisely the same?

PistachioTiramisu · 31/01/2026 13:24

I am mystified why anybody would have wanted to take so many pictures of all these 'activities' and indeed who did take them?

Why has Andrew been singled out for the absolute hounding in the press and on social media? What about all the other names mentioned in these documents?

Whatever went on (and we can never know exactly and for sure) the pictures in the media of him today show an absolutely desperate looking and very unhappy man. I just hope that nothing bad happens to him.

MidWayThruJanuary · 31/01/2026 13:27

@PistachioTiramisu
I am reserving my sympathy for all the victims. The abusers deserve all they are getting.

MidWayThruJanuary · 31/01/2026 13:33

And Andrew was the son of the reigning monarch and Head of State at the time he was enmeshed with Epstein.

MrsLeonFarrell · 31/01/2026 13:33

It makes his decision the Matlis interview even more astounding. Did he actually believe that these photos would never see the light of day? I cannot comprehend being so arrogant that you would refuse to apologise and demonstrate remorse, even if you were only doing it for show, whilst knowing that these images exist.

It doesn't change my opinion of him, because I'm not sure that it could go lower, but it does make me wonder how on earth he thought this would go once the cat was out of the bag with Epstein's conviction.

MidWayThruJanuary · 31/01/2026 13:38

@MrsLeonFarrell
I think he thought the power of the RF would protect him for ever.

AnnunciataM · 31/01/2026 13:39

PistachioTiramisu · 31/01/2026 13:24

I am mystified why anybody would have wanted to take so many pictures of all these 'activities' and indeed who did take them?

Why has Andrew been singled out for the absolute hounding in the press and on social media? What about all the other names mentioned in these documents?

Whatever went on (and we can never know exactly and for sure) the pictures in the media of him today show an absolutely desperate looking and very unhappy man. I just hope that nothing bad happens to him.

Well I'm sure he's unhappy, but he also strikes me as being like the apocryphal thief who wasn't sorry he stole but was very sorry to be sent to jail!

MrsLeonFarrell · 31/01/2026 13:41

MidWayThruJanuary · 31/01/2026 13:38

@MrsLeonFarrell
I think he thought the power of the RF would protect him for ever.

That's a good point. I'm so so glad it didn't, even though like many I'm disappointed with the late Queen's handling of Andrew.

Indigovelvet · 31/01/2026 13:42

My thoughts too this morning OP. More seedy behaviour from Andrew revealed.

MrsLeonFarrell · 31/01/2026 13:43

AnnunciataM · 31/01/2026 13:39

Well I'm sure he's unhappy, but he also strikes me as being like the apocryphal thief who wasn't sorry he stole but was very sorry to be sent to jail!

I'm sure he is bewildered by the way this has all turned out. I'm pretty sure he still thinks he did nothing wrong. Sticking him in an out of the way farmhouse on an estate is probably the best way to deal with him at this point.

TheAutumnCrow · 31/01/2026 13:48

So here we have the Head of State’s son (now brother) shagging a sex trafficker and being good mates with another.

I’ve long said that that Andrew MW needs investigating for involvement in sex trafficking himself, as do the people who would have covered it up.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/01/2026 13:49

MrsLeonFarrell · 31/01/2026 13:33

It makes his decision the Matlis interview even more astounding. Did he actually believe that these photos would never see the light of day? I cannot comprehend being so arrogant that you would refuse to apologise and demonstrate remorse, even if you were only doing it for show, whilst knowing that these images exist.

It doesn't change my opinion of him, because I'm not sure that it could go lower, but it does make me wonder how on earth he thought this would go once the cat was out of the bag with Epstein's conviction.

Sensible as ever, MrsLF, but with us not being members of the RF the lack of understanding of the level of arrogance is perhaps natural

IMO If they were actively trying to show just how beyond the pale they are and that their only real concern is the image, they could hardly be making a better job of it - and even the image is rapidly falling to pieces

Time for some pretty pictures of Catherine and the kids I guess ...

Edited to add I'm more interested in whether Sarah was shagging Epstein, @TheAutumnCrow. Probably she was a bit old for him, but there seems no limit to what else she'd have. said or done to keep his money coming so who knows?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/01/2026 14:01

Also remembering that a lot was made of the supposed atmosphere round the breakfast table when Sarah's toe sucking images appeared, and wondering what it'll be like with these latest ones of Andrew

Or will that be okay because he's family? [🤔

MrsLeonFarrell · 31/01/2026 14:03

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/01/2026 13:49

Sensible as ever, MrsLF, but with us not being members of the RF the lack of understanding of the level of arrogance is perhaps natural

IMO If they were actively trying to show just how beyond the pale they are and that their only real concern is the image, they could hardly be making a better job of it - and even the image is rapidly falling to pieces

Time for some pretty pictures of Catherine and the kids I guess ...

Edited to add I'm more interested in whether Sarah was shagging Epstein, @TheAutumnCrow. Probably she was a bit old for him, but there seems no limit to what else she'd have. said or done to keep his money coming so who knows?

Edited

I have said before, and I still believed, that I think that the late Queen's long reign was harmful in terms of the institution's evolution. The monarchy needs to be able to change as society changes and it got stuck in a 1950s deference were the emphasis was on being seen rather than what you said and how you behaved when not in public.

In the age of social media image means nothing if people find you inauthentic. Sometimes the purity spiral that demands 100% perfection is stupid because, let's face it, no one can ever reach perfection but on a more achievable level the demand for authenticity is helpful. It means that people can't just say things, they have to do them. We notice when someone is saying one thing and doing another. It opens up questions about use of funds and resources.

If we are to continue as a constitutional monarchy there need to be changes and I think Andrew is experiencing one of the changes. A minor royal can no longer be seen to be supported in luxury just because of who his mum was. Appalling behaviour will have consequences, albeit probably not legal ones which I don't think it's about his royal status specifically, in terms of titles and access.

It will be interesting to see how things go in the next few years.

Allseeingallknowing · 31/01/2026 14:12

PistachioTiramisu · 31/01/2026 13:24

I am mystified why anybody would have wanted to take so many pictures of all these 'activities' and indeed who did take them?

Why has Andrew been singled out for the absolute hounding in the press and on social media? What about all the other names mentioned in these documents?

Whatever went on (and we can never know exactly and for sure) the pictures in the media of him today show an absolutely desperate looking and very unhappy man. I just hope that nothing bad happens to him.

For blackmail purposes?

Allseeingallknowing · 31/01/2026 14:13

explanationplease · 31/01/2026 08:42

So, he was sleeping with Americans and Russians, and dealing with Chinese business men, simultaneously? He’s a walking liability. I mean, we already knew that the RF weren’t over endowed with intelligence, but ffs.

Don’t think much walking went on!

AreYouSureAskedNaomi · 31/01/2026 14:16

I am mystified why anybody would have wanted to take so many pictures of all these 'activities' and indeed who did take them?

I imagine Andrew thought it was all a laugh, and Epstein instructed everyone he controlled to take pictures to keep for possible blackmail?

Why has Andrew been singled out for the absolute hounding in the press and on social media? What about all the other names mentioned in these documents?

I don't think he has? The media everywhere is frothing with Trump allegations, and I think today's opprobium seems to be focusing on Bill Gates and his STD. Other names are Americans I've never head about and people like Woody Allen or Elon Musk that I'm not surprised at.

But remember that it's natural for British media to focus more on British people... the BBC has to be very careful with Trump, they messed up recently and he's already suing them. And Andrew is not just any individual, anything he did raises questions about institutions and public money.

AmplePlayer · 31/01/2026 14:23

Surely he has to be investigated now?

TheAutumnCrow · 31/01/2026 14:23

Edited to add I'm more interested in whether Sarah was shagging Epstein, . Probably she was a bit old for him, but there seems no limit to what else she'd have. said or done to keep his money coming so who knows?

Sarah was willing to place her own daughters in Epstein’s path a few times, including in 2009 when he’d just completed his sentence.

She actually revolts me. Can you imagine the mindset necessary to make that decision? She and Andrew need profiling.

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