AIBU to think the King’s speech was completely irrelevant to most of us

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I know he’s head of the church but he’s also head of the country in general and religion is not a top priority for the vast majority of the people he supposedly represents. If the RF want to stay relevant it’s about time they used their positions for something more useful than spouting a bunch of fairy stories that cause many of the world’s biggest problems.

But KC3 was 'preaching', if you want to use that word, interfaith dialogue and tolerance. On the whole - as much as anyone can judge from external appearances - he seems to try to act on that. Why is that hypocritical?

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Do you believe in God?

But if I say that think shoplifting is wrong, having lived in accordance with that belief for decades, why is it hypocritical? Yes, if i had continued to steal it would be. But after more than 3 decades surely there comes a point when I can advocate for my current beliefs?

You probably hit someone as a toddler - are you a hypocrite if you say 'violence is wrong'?

I understand you don’t share that belief, and that’s okay—I’m not trying to convince you, just explaining the hope that Christians hold in the face of a broken world.

I said if you’re STILL LIVING by different morals to what you’re preaching, which Charles and his family are, then it’s hypocritical.

A lot of the reason it’s broken is because of religion.

Christians believe the world is broken not because of God or faith itself, but because of sin—the way human choices go against God’s good design. Sin isn’t just individual wrongdoing; it’s a tendency in every person to put themselves first, which distorts relationships, harms communities, and leads to injustice and suffering.

Religion can be misused by humans, but the source of the world’s brokenness is this deeper human problem, not the idea of God or faith. Christianity sees God’s work in the world, through Jesus, as restoring what sin has damaged—healing people, relationships, and creation itself.

I think this is the best post on this thread 🤣 summed up beautifully.

We live in a constitutional monarchy so whilst we may believe that the institution is corrupt or harmful or in need of reform or valuable in terms of soft power or a check on politicians or should be replaced (delete according to taste), the fact remains that it is at the heart of our system of government and the last thing it is is irrelevant. If that were true we wouldn't all have views about it, or the King, we'd just shrug and get on with our days.

The monarchy matters, not the whole family but the Monarch and the Heir, and what they do and say and how they behave matters.

But KC3 was 'preaching' inter faith dialogue and tolerance - why do you say he isn't living by those morals? Do you have inside info that he's sneaking out at night and spraying graffiti on the local Catholic Church or mosque?!

I thought it was a wider warning about the tide of reform flag fuelled hatred that seems to
be seeping across the land.
I thought it was a good speech.

Someone posted this earlier

He talked about getting to know and neighbours and community when his son has turfed out a load of people from their homes, they could have been his neighbours. They don’t have neighbours in their large houses with lots of land, they don’t get to know anyone really unless they’re of their class. He talks about diversity and right and wrong, yet said nothing when Meghan was facing racism from newspapers and that awful Jeremy Clarkson, In fact Camilla attends events with Piers Morgan and Clarkson when they are 2 of the most prolific Meghan haters. A deep respect for all life he said was important, did Andrew or any of them have a deep respect for the girls that Andrew and pals was abusing and raping or did they stay quiet? He said we could all make the future more hopeful with the values he talked of, but when he and his family aren’t living by them, it feels hopeless. Just more rich powerful people doing exactly what they like, getting away with it whilst the rest of us worry about money, safety, our children etc.

You think I would get into a discussion with you about this? 😂

I don’t think you have, someone else has. You just posted a picture and an emoji. Unless you’re posting as someone else,

I will be asking my tenant to.leave next year, as my daughter will graduate and want the flat. I am such a bad neighbour...

He hasn't responded to lots of media flack, on all sorts of subjects. And the UK mainstream media had so little racist content against Meghan the NF documentary had to use overseas headlines.

I am not sure how he is responsible for Andrew's behaviour?

I can't live up to the exalted standards you set (I wonder if you do...!).

I totally agree with the above but at the same time the person doing the preaching has to be genuinely credible and trying to make amends for previous errors. We all try and fail and try again. And I’m not sure that I see much sincere evidence of that in KC3’s actions as monarch; particularly wrt financial matters, especially when he personally profited by astonishing amounts of money upon his accession to the throne.

I think people understand that the RF represents the country and therefore they have to present themselves and their official homes in a way which is suitable for entertaining heads of state.

But we can no longer ignore the ever burgeoning vastness of the monarch’s wealth, the division this inevitably causes between Charles and his people whom he supposedly serves, and the fact that he is growing wealthier and wealthier year on year, while his people become less well off.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2023/apr/20/revealed-king-charless-private-fortune-estimated-at-almost-2bn

There is imho a fundamental credibility problem when it comes to the RF and issues such as homelessness and mental health. We understand as a society now how poverty impacts on both of these enormous societal problems. The British people are becoming more aware that the words of a Prince, vowing to end homelessness, however genuinely well intentioned, sound increasingly hollow given the knowledge that he will inherit over sixteen vast estates and mansions.

No human being is perfect. Most just strive to be decent and making mistakes on the way.

This doesn't even make sense 🤷‍♀️