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As ever and PR disasters continued

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AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 21:35

So Meghan lost her fathers number but is ringing round hospitals and will send a handwritten note, as per Sussex sources speaking through the Sun, the Telegraph and the Times.

I mean I have no idea, how it works with PR for very famous people, but surely there are scenarios they prep for?

Her dad is in his 80s, severely obese and has suffered ill health for years. You would think, there would be protocol in what to do should the worst happen.

That would include having up to date contact info. This isn’t something Meg would need to have/get involved with if she’s estranged, but surely ‘The Office of the DDOS’ would. Then engage in their set plan- whether that’s a public statement that this is a private affair or that contact has been made through the proper channels.

Whatever this is, it isn’t professional-it’s complete chaos.

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Jaffyyy · 29/12/2025 18:09

AtIusvue · 29/12/2025 15:12

https://robshuter.substack.com/p/exclusive-meghan-and-harry-the-bosses

‘They smile for the cameras, preach kindness, and insist they’re misunderstood — but behind closed doors, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are being branded “the bosses from hell” by insiders who say working for the Sussexes is a nightmare few can survive.
With their latest U.S. communications chief quitting after just seven months — the 11th senior PR exit since Megxit — sources say this is no coincidence. It’s a pattern.
So what’s driving staff away? Insiders point to three toxic workplace habits that make Camp Sussex virtually impossible to work in.
FIRST: THEY IGNORE THEIR OWN EXPERTS.
Former aides say they’re hired for professional advice — then instantly overruled.
“They’d ask for strategy, then scrap it if it didn’t match Meghan’s instincts or Harry’s mood,” one ex-staffer revealed. Carefully crafted plans were tossed aside after a bad headline or social media backlash, leaving employees scrambling to defend decisions they never supported.
SECOND: RELENTLESS MICROMANAGEMENT.
Sources say Meghan, in particular, obsesses over details — down to individual words.
“Nothing was ever final,” one insider said. “Emails would come back at 2 a.m. changing a single adjective — then changing it back the next day.” The constant rewrites, late-night messages, and sudden pivots reportedly left staff exhausted and paralyzed.
THIRD — AND MOST DAMAGING: BLAME ALWAYS FLOWS DOWN.
When projects flop or coverage turns negative, insiders say staff take the fall.
“You’re praised until the moment something goes wrong,” a former aide claimed. “Then you’re quietly pushed out.”
Industry insiders say the Sussex reputation has spread fast — and not in a good way.
“Top-tier talent won’t touch the job anymore,” one source said. “Everyone asks how long the last person lasted.”
Harry and Meghan continue to deny being difficult employers. But as one insider put it bluntly:
“It’s not bad luck. It’s bad leadership.”
Another staffer gone.
Another warning sign flashing red.
And another reminder that when everyone keeps quitting — the problem isn’t the employees.
Remember —
If you’re going to be naughty, you’ve got to be nice.
Cheers,
Rob Shuter’

You’re praised until the moment something goes wrong,” a former aide claimed. “Then you’re quietly pushed out.”

Looks like her bullying tactics have changed since she was exposed across numerous, legally watertight, separate and independent workplace bullying investigations by credible publications such as The Times, Hollywood Reporter, Vanity Fair, Access Hollywood, Courtiers etc by the testimonies of dozens of victims and witnesses to her overt emotional violence - yelling, belittling and humiliating to covert methods of emotional violence bullying pushing out / sidelining / freezing out - but this vile behaviour still stands legally as bullying in the workplace.

AtIusvue · 29/12/2025 18:10

I’m wondering how long until we hear that Shauna Nep (their Philanthropy executive for Archewell, who is on 300k ) has gone?

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ShamedBySiri · 29/12/2025 18:11

AtIusvue · 29/12/2025 17:56

Ten years service, they could have found him a job somewhere. Especially as so many staff have gone over this year. But he was on a large salary paid for by Archewell. ….they can’t cover 250k.

The finiancial sponsor model that they are now using for Archewell Philanthropies, won’t cover his salary. You have to use their admin staff. That’s the point of the sponsor- they provide the cash and the staff- because running a foundation is very expansive. It’s the easier option. BUT you have to follow their rules and guidance….which we know Harry and Meg are incapable of doing.

Therefore Archewell Philanthropies is just a disaster waiting to happen.

But who is the sponsor? Has anyone stepped forward? Why on earth would anyone do this? If you had the cash to spare surely you'd start your own foundation/charity. 🤷‍♀️

AtIusvue · 29/12/2025 18:17

ShamedBySiri · 29/12/2025 18:11

But who is the sponsor? Has anyone stepped forward? Why on earth would anyone do this? If you had the cash to spare surely you'd start your own foundation/charity. 🤷‍♀️

That I’ve not heard, who is the exact sponsor. But theres lots of them in the US. It’s a pretty common model to use, because running your own non profit is very expensive.

It’s not an individual that is a sponsor. It’s a non profit that charges a fee for their services.

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ShamedBySiri · 29/12/2025 18:22

The Diana documentary is literally the only baby carrot they have left, I wonder if Netflix will bite. Someone mentioned that William is making sure there can be no content/pictures relating to him, I think W will pull out all the stops to either prevent the whole thing or at least to make it very difficult and lacking in content. He changed lawyers earlier this year to Mission de Reya, I bet there are people still there who know things about Diana that even William or possibly Charles don't know. They'll be all over Harry's documentary. And as he was so young when she died what will it be? "Diana, the Mother I knew"?
No one who wants to stay onside with William will touch it. I can't imagine Harry has anything to say that isn't already known. Still, I suppose there are a few hardcore fans still (See John, waiting outside the Church at Sandringham) who will lap it up. I guess if Netflix think there is money to be made even a half documentary, with lots of photos with William airbrushed out will have to do.
On the whole I don't think it'll see the light of day, and if it does it still won't be enough to rescue their finances.

Serenster · 29/12/2025 18:26

A spokesperson for the couple said that Holt will remain a 'senior philanthropic advisor' to the couple and Archewell Philanthropies, and will support their 'humanitarian trips overseas in 2026.'
A source added: 'He will be supporting the Duke with a number of engagements over the next 12 months.'

That sounds remarkably similar to what a spokesperson for the couple said when Ashley Hansen left in October 2024: “Hansen will continue oversight of the international team advising the Duke and Duchess’ philanthropic work and creative projects through their banner Archewell. She’ll also work closely with the Duchess on new business ventures”.

Yet less than a year later, in September 2025, Ashley Hansen has shuttered Three Gate Strategies, the company that was supposed to be partnering with Archewell and the Duchess, and has joined a consultancy firm in Los Angeles.

Flowery words are cheap…

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 29/12/2025 18:30

FFS, H &M….. Sell the house, buy a smaller one you can keep properly, invest any remaining money and work on being decent human beings in your interactions with others. Duck down under the parapet. Look after your children. Stop talking to the press. Build some bridges, if you think you can and you both want to (I think only H is really interested in doing this). Get proper jobs. Do something really worthwhile, rather than something you thinks looks worthwhile for two minutes. Make an actual contribution to the world by earning an honest pay check, paying your taxes, bringing your children up to be good people with a solid work ethic. Jeez. I love the soap opera of it all, but these two now need to get a bloody grip.

Serenster · 29/12/2025 18:30

When this writer asked the Sussex PR team on December 14th if Holt had left, they replied that he 'works at and for the foundation.'

A very carefully worded statement, that. At that date they clearly knew he was leaving and the Foundation would soon become Archewell Philanthropies. So probably not technically wrong that he was working for the Foundation - no mention, however, that it would shortly no longer exist, and with it his role. 🤣

Serenster · 29/12/2025 18:39

There’s a pattern here.

When heavy-hitter Catherine St-Laurent joined the Sussexes in 2021 from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in 2020, and then left less than a year later, a Sussexes spokesperson said that she would continue as an “advisor on strategy for Archewell while launching a new social impact firm

Catherine herself said: “It’s been a privilege working closely with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex helping to establish Archewell Foundation in its first year...I am deeply proud of what we’ve accomplished together and I’m honoured to remain on as an advisor.

Sounds Ike the “rinse and repeat” formula they agree with an exiting senior employee, as they certainly are never seen again once they leave.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 29/12/2025 18:42

It’s not an individual that is a sponsor. It’s a non profit that charges a fee for their services.

So not a financial sponsor, but a business that runs the admin? A bit like a business that buys in a virtual PA?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 29/12/2025 18:42

Things are now so desperate 2026 will be the year the kids will have to earn their keep, they are the only thing that will distract temporarily from the absolute shit show they have made of their lives, I expect they will join them on their faux humanitarian “tours” of whatever countries will pay them for their presence, but the kids faces being revealed will still only be a flash in the pan of headlines for a few days, they won’t make them a huge amount of cash and once their kids appearance has been dissected by the world and his wife what next? Full on Instagram family with “sponsorships”?

AtIusvue · 29/12/2025 18:48

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 29/12/2025 18:42

It’s not an individual that is a sponsor. It’s a non profit that charges a fee for their services.

So not a financial sponsor, but a business that runs the admin? A bit like a business that buys in a virtual PA?

They are non profits that give out grants and take care of liabilities and staffing. The usually charge a fee though.

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EmpressSisi · 29/12/2025 18:48

Mylovelygreendress · 29/12/2025 17:09

And …….James Holt has gone !

😮😳🫣

WTF is going on???

Seriously, their staff are dropping like flies! This needs its own thread!

Lunde · 29/12/2025 18:55

bluegreygreen · 29/12/2025 17:50

I'm not yet totally sure it's financial and not regulatory

I've read some articles that say a lot of it is regulatory.

A "philanthropy" is less transparent and has less oversight than a charitable foundation. It can accept donations from sources that would not be allowed under charity rules.

There have also been questions raised about the way they used the charity as a tax write off (hence them all wearing Archewell hats and aprons at the Thanksgiving food kitchen so they can claim this PR photoshoot as tax deductible).

More questions about the 2024 Archewell accounts where $5 million+ was spent on "expenses" when they only raised $2million and then donated just $1.25 million to charity.

I reckon that something big was coming - like an investigation... and the Archewell Foundation was closed very hastily to prevent it as it all happened in December. In fact they only applied to trademark Archewell Philanthropies 10 days ago on December 19th. It reminds me a bit of the closure of Sussex Royal and the sudden transfer of all the funds to Travalyst ... and organisation that appears to do nothing and the charity money raised by Sussex Royal was never accounted for.

Mylovelygreendress · 29/12/2025 19:00

OtherS · 29/12/2025 18:03

They must have noticed things aren't quite going to plan and I'd love to know what they think has gone wrong. They can't still be trying to blame the RF, surely? Do they acknowledge that they themselves have made any misstep? They seem so completely oblivious. I just can't fathom why they can keep on with the duke / duchess nonsense when they must surely see how ridiculous it makes them look, especially when they keep insisting they really hate all the backwards nobility crap and they just want to be treated like normal people. They'd have been far better off if the titles had been removed, though god knows how they would have styled themselves in that case.

They genuinely seem to live in their own weird little fantasy land, where princess Meghan is somehow simultaneously a self made entrepreneur, an earth mother and a glamourous socialite, while should-be-king Harry travels the world inspiring millions by wanging on about his dead mother and calling it philanthropy. It must be very confusing for them when we annoying peasants refuse to play along.

It’s William’s fault . As ever.

ShamedBySiri · 29/12/2025 19:01

When heavy-hitter Catherine St-Laurent joined the Sussexes in 2021 from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in 2020,

Imagine leaving the Gates foundation for Archewell and H&M! I have no idea why anyone goes to work for them, let alone “heavy hitters”. Don’t they do any research before saying Yes to the dress? It honestly makes me wonder if they are as brilliant as their stellar CVs would suggest.

Although I suppose she was there straight after Mexit and may have thought this was a great opportunity to set up something new. Even so some cursory research would have alerted one to the fact that this was going to be a far less well financially endowed institution. Are Americans oblivious to the way the Royal family works and ignorant of the fact that second sons/spares don’t have access to untold wealth?

Lunde · 29/12/2025 19:13

ShamedBySiri · 29/12/2025 19:01

When heavy-hitter Catherine St-Laurent joined the Sussexes in 2021 from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in 2020,

Imagine leaving the Gates foundation for Archewell and H&M! I have no idea why anyone goes to work for them, let alone “heavy hitters”. Don’t they do any research before saying Yes to the dress? It honestly makes me wonder if they are as brilliant as their stellar CVs would suggest.

Although I suppose she was there straight after Mexit and may have thought this was a great opportunity to set up something new. Even so some cursory research would have alerted one to the fact that this was going to be a far less well financially endowed institution. Are Americans oblivious to the way the Royal family works and ignorant of the fact that second sons/spares don’t have access to untold wealth?

Well - I suppose back in 2020 Harry and Meghan were perceived as "heavy hitters" and a "royal power couple" thanks to all of the work of the men in grey suits. It's only really been the past 2 or 3 years that the hollow rhetoric and empty promises have been exposed.

Also 2020 was around the time that Bill and Melinda Gates were in the middle of an acrimonious divorce so it can't have been easy working for co-chairs who weren't speaking. But then again "out of the frying pan and into the fire"....

wordler · 29/12/2025 19:28

In 2019 Harry and Meghan were still very popular in the UK. Megxit was also such a soap opera gossip worthy story that it had people all over the world talking about it.

The potential of this couple at the time looked huge from a PR standpoint.

Then it looked like they were unfairly hobbled by Covid lockdowns.

It’s only in hindsight that we can see that the lack of focus, consistency and substance would have had them ending up in the same place even without Covid.

ShamedBySiri · 29/12/2025 19:32

Yes I suppose in hindsight she probably set up some generous donations and the groundwork for Netflix, she probably did I achieve quite a lot. I wonder what she thought of the Oprah interview.

Zippedydodah · 29/12/2025 19:39

chunkyBoo · 29/12/2025 12:15

Taking it one step further, I think H&M hire all these
people to ‘make them’ into something, but those people taking on these roles likely think there’s ‘hope’ however once the start working there they realise they have literally nothing, any glimmers of hope don’t get listened to, they’re toxic bullies and get fed up and get out

It must be like polishing a turd then…..

Zippedydodah · 29/12/2025 19:41

Mylovelygreendress · 29/12/2025 13:12

On reflection you are probably right , I was just thinking about how they dealt with “ loveable “ Harry .
Meghan was completely unsuited to Royal life.
Yet she clings on to her title .

Well, it’s not as if there’s anything else she can cling to, is there? Just the title and Harry’s arm.

AtIusvue · 29/12/2025 19:54

Telegraph:

‘What is the most insecure job in the world? The contenders are many. For the past nine years, being the British prime minister has been up there with the worst of them. In the decade before that, being a non-Mutya member of the Sugababes was about as precarious as employment could get.
The leader of Ukip? True – for a while, that seemed to change every other month, until people stopped caring. Playing inside centre for the England rugby team? Fair enough – after Will Greenwood, it became a revolving door. Manchester United manager? Leonardo DiCaprio’s girlfriend?
All good options. But the correct answer, as confirmed this week with the departure of another brief holder of the post, is publicist to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Having just lost number 11 in five years, that office now has an attrition rate somewhere between Countdown presenter and Napoleonic infantry. Some chalices are poisoned; others are radioactive to the touch.
The latest person to give up on Montecito is Meredith Maines, who was appointed at the end of 2024 as chief communications officer, responsible for leading press and media operations for the couple. She will now be “pursuing a new opportunity” after “a year of inspiring work” that has included the launch of Meghan’s As Ever lifestyle brand, media production company Archewell Productions, and Archewell Philanthropies, the couple’s joint charity.

Meredith Maines, the Sussexes’ chief communications officer for the past year, has stepped down and will ‘pursue a new opportunity’ Credit: LinkedIn
In a statement, Maines said she has “the utmost respect for the couple and the team, and the good they are doing in the world.” Meanwhile, Harry and Meghan, who have also parted ways with the PR firm Method Communications, offered their own reference. Gird yourself, for the warmth and affection is profound: “Meredith Maines and Method Communications have concluded their work with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. The Duke and Duchess are grateful for their contributions and wish them well.”
One of the first things Maines did when she joined Team Sussex was oversee the loss of six members of staff, including two senior members of the communications team, in a streamlining exercise last June. That she has now had her own exit interview has come as a surprise, even in an organisation with a higher leadership turnover than a relegation-zone football club.
Naturally, then, there are theories about what might really be going on. One faction of royal watchers insists that Maines has been given the heave-ho after photographs of the Sussexes attending a party thrown by the Kardashians were mysteriously deleted (in a saga too tedious even to describe here). Was it a sackable offence? You never know.
Another theory holds that the publication in July of photographs showing Maines meeting King Charles’s communications secretary, Tobyn Andreae – allegedly to discuss a potential entente between Charles and Harry – angered the couple. A third suggests that Maines is, in fact, leaving on a high: that the meeting went well and that 2026 may be a year of reconciliation. The rest of us are struggling to care less, merely wishing Harry and Meghan did a little less publicity.

Tobyn Andreae (left), King Charles’s communications secretary Credit: Max Mumby/Indigo
That cynicism offers a reasonable point. Working on the ancient principle that all publicity is good publicity, getting the word out about Meghan and Harry’s existence is surely among the easier jobs on the planet rather than the hardest. As this writer can attest, the couple do not go unnoticed by the world’s media pundits, and between their Netflix series, podcasts, public appearances, TV interviews and social media, the Sussexes are hardly short of platforms.
So how exactly they have ended up losing an average of 2.2 publicists per year is a puzzle. Maines is the 11th, but if you can name any of the other 10 without reading ahead, feel free to write in and claim a prize. There was Emily Robinson, a former lead publicist on Netflix’s The Crown, who lasted only four months over the summer, leaving with a “friend” telling the Daily Mail: “She’s not a quitter, so things must have been pretty horrible for her to go.”

Emily Robinson left the Sussexes’ team after just four months
Before Emily came Ashley Hansen, and before her, Kyle Boulia, who was one of the six staff members to leave in June’s reshuffle. Before them were Charlie Gipson, Toya Holness, Josh Kettler, Christine Schirmer, Miranda Barbot, James Holt and, for your Pointless answer, Deesha Tank.
Before Emily came Ashley Hansen, and before her, Kyle Boulia, one of six staff members to leave in June’s reshuffle. Before them were Charlie Gipson, Toya Holness, Josh Kettler, Christine Schirmer, Miranda Barbot, James Holt and – for your Pointless answer – Deesha Tank.
Holt, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s longest-serving member of staff, left their charity on Monday, ending a nearly decade-long association with the couple during which he took on the publicist role as they transitioned from the UK to the US.

James Holt was the executive director of Archewell and moved to California with the Duke and Duchess of SussexCredit: Bryan Bedder/Getty Images
Some of those who previously held the post remain within the broader Sussex operation, but others left and did not return, walking away from a working environment that has been accused of being toxic or, at the very least, exhaustingly chaotic. Earlier this year, Vanity Fair reported that several staff members required “long-term therapy” or took extended breaks after working for the Duchess in particular. The Sussexes have long denied the allegations of bullying made against them.
Part of the issue is surely that Harry and Meghan do not actually know what they wish to communicate to the world. Is the message that they want privacy or publicity? Are they celebrities or dignitaries? For how long will they define themselves by what they chose to leave, rather than by what they would like to do next? Is “sprinkle a fine dusting of edible flowers on everything” enough of a manifesto to work from? Put that way, the task of weaving a new narrative doesn’t look quite so easy.

Miranda Barbot, part of the revolving cast of communications figures who have left the Sussex operationCredit: Karwai Tang/WireImage
And so, perhaps it’s not surprising that their communications team has adopted a strategy similar to the Have I Got News For You hosting chair: a carousel of different people, rather than it somehow always being Alexander Armstrong or Martin Clunes whenever you check.
Maybe it will become like jury service, and any of us could be summoned for a short stint ghost-writing Meghan’s Instagram captions and forcefully emailing Anna Wintour to ask whether any of the quiet months are free for a magazine cover. Or like national service, where we’ll all have to do two years of hard labour to build our character and experience real conflict.
Until a decision is reached on that, it is understood that Liam Maguire, the couple’s UK and Europe director of communications, will step up to lead on all publicity-related work. Well thought of and highly experienced, Maguire has worked with Harry for over a decade.
He now becomes the leader, and great survivor, of a regime that could field a full cricket team of ousted PR heads since 2020. Now there’s an idea for a headline-grabbing stunt…’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/12/29/meghan-harry-and-the-worst-job-in-the-world/

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BoxingHares22 · 29/12/2025 20:02

AtIusvue · 29/12/2025 17:16


When this writer asked the Sussex PR team on December 14th if Holt had left, they replied that he 'works at and for the foundation.'
The following day, the Sussex lawyers were cc'd into an exchange in which the PR wrote: 'James returned from paternity leave after three months of paid leave and remains employed and actively at work.

However yesterday, after renewed enquiries, they confirmed that he had indeed decided to move on from Archewell.
In a statement shared with the Mail, Holt said that working with the couple had been a 'great privilege' and that he had found a 'kindred spirit' in Meghan.
A spokesperson for the couple said that Holt will remain a 'senior philanthropic advisor' to the couple and Archewell Philanthropies, and will support their 'humanitarian trips overseas in 2026.'
A source added: 'He will be supporting the Duke with a number of engagements over the next 12 months.'

Over on Reddit, they’ve been saying for months that he was going, as he already returned to the UK in the summer

So what is the truth?

Butteredtoast55 · 29/12/2025 20:19

ShamedBySiri · 29/12/2025 18:22

The Diana documentary is literally the only baby carrot they have left, I wonder if Netflix will bite. Someone mentioned that William is making sure there can be no content/pictures relating to him, I think W will pull out all the stops to either prevent the whole thing or at least to make it very difficult and lacking in content. He changed lawyers earlier this year to Mission de Reya, I bet there are people still there who know things about Diana that even William or possibly Charles don't know. They'll be all over Harry's documentary. And as he was so young when she died what will it be? "Diana, the Mother I knew"?
No one who wants to stay onside with William will touch it. I can't imagine Harry has anything to say that isn't already known. Still, I suppose there are a few hardcore fans still (See John, waiting outside the Church at Sandringham) who will lap it up. I guess if Netflix think there is money to be made even a half documentary, with lots of photos with William airbrushed out will have to do.
On the whole I don't think it'll see the light of day, and if it does it still won't be enough to rescue their finances.

And it would go a long way to completely ruining their reputation and chances of reconciliation with the RF, and many people in the UK.

ThePoshUns · 29/12/2025 20:31

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 29/12/2025 18:30

FFS, H &M….. Sell the house, buy a smaller one you can keep properly, invest any remaining money and work on being decent human beings in your interactions with others. Duck down under the parapet. Look after your children. Stop talking to the press. Build some bridges, if you think you can and you both want to (I think only H is really interested in doing this). Get proper jobs. Do something really worthwhile, rather than something you thinks looks worthwhile for two minutes. Make an actual contribution to the world by earning an honest pay check, paying your taxes, bringing your children up to be good people with a solid work ethic. Jeez. I love the soap opera of it all, but these two now need to get a bloody grip.

This 100%

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