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Thomas Markle very ill

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Viviennemary · 03/12/2025 20:14

I've just read Thomas Markle is in hospital intensive care. He has been treated poorly by Meghan. I doubt if the pair will have anything to say about this. Though they've always plenty to say about a lot of things. Doubt they'll be rushing to his bedside.

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Benjithedog · 04/12/2025 10:40

Sleetandice533 · 04/12/2025 09:30

So op knows more about the relationship than the two people concerned?

Also, to state that MM has treated her father badly is a narrative started by Piers Morgan who is a shit-stirrer who developed an unhinged pathological dislike of MM after she quite rightly saw him for who he is.

This poor old feeble man shtick was ridiculous at the time. It may be true now but TM has been as calculating as they come. Appearing on tv shows stirring the pot.

Just compare his behaviour to Doria who has maintained a dignified silence and behaved with grace throughout.

What we do know for sure about TM is that he faked and set up photos to exploit his daughter’s wedding. Seriously? Who does that?

And at the end of the documentary about him he turned to the camera and said something like “it’s my turn now” meaning, it was time Meghan gave him some sort of financial pay off. What loving father behaves in this way?

He was awful and frankly how MM responds to that is no one’s business but her own.

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I don’t think Piers Morgan has any control over whether she visits her father or not. That’s entirely on her

Benjithedog · 04/12/2025 10:42

simpsonthecat · 04/12/2025 10:25

I agree.

I don't blame Meghan one bit, it's her business whatever she decides to do. Or not do.

He was being interviewed endlessly and I imagine being paid for it, saying things like "it's time to look after daddy" and threatening to be interviewed every day if Meghan didnt contact him
People on mumsnet go no contact for far less
I wish her luck steering her way through this

Such hypocrisy in this thread. Harry and Megan have done EXACTLY the same thing but there’s always an excuse for them and their behaviour

fucit · 04/12/2025 10:45

ItsDarkNow · 03/12/2025 22:51

She has done what many posters on mn advise people with abusive parents to do.

It doesn’t seem like he was abusive though. It seems as though he was an involved father and gave her a good childhood. It all blew up around the wedding - the heart attack, the tabloid stuff he did with the suit measuring etc. But that isn’t long term abuse.

threesocksmorgan · 04/12/2025 10:47

Benjithedog · 04/12/2025 10:42

Such hypocrisy in this thread. Harry and Megan have done EXACTLY the same thing but there’s always an excuse for them and their behaviour

yes the hypocrisy.
because of what they have done, the rf are judged as right for going nc.
but when meghans dad does it she should just forgive.
😂

Benjithedog · 04/12/2025 10:51

threesocksmorgan · 04/12/2025 10:47

yes the hypocrisy.
because of what they have done, the rf are judged as right for going nc.
but when meghans dad does it she should just forgive.
😂

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Trying to pretend that Megan haven’t behaved in EXACTLY the same way is ridiculous. And let’s be honest they started it

NaturalW · 04/12/2025 10:55

Sleetandice533 · 04/12/2025 09:30

So op knows more about the relationship than the two people concerned?

Also, to state that MM has treated her father badly is a narrative started by Piers Morgan who is a shit-stirrer who developed an unhinged pathological dislike of MM after she quite rightly saw him for who he is.

This poor old feeble man shtick was ridiculous at the time. It may be true now but TM has been as calculating as they come. Appearing on tv shows stirring the pot.

Just compare his behaviour to Doria who has maintained a dignified silence and behaved with grace throughout.

What we do know for sure about TM is that he faked and set up photos to exploit his daughter’s wedding. Seriously? Who does that?

And at the end of the documentary about him he turned to the camera and said something like “it’s my turn now” meaning, it was time Meghan gave him some sort of financial pay off. What loving father behaves in this way?

He was awful and frankly how MM responds to that is no one’s business but her own.

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Just compare his behaviour to Doria who has maintained a dignified silence and behaved with grace throughout.

Shame her own daughter didn’t then apply this role model but instead became a serious shit stirrer with an unhinged pathological dislike of her ILs - when they finally saw her for who she is - and conducted a relentless, calculated, global, media campaign of money making initiatives over years and years to smear them and degrade them. Alongside lying to a High Court judge about providing secret briefings to a journalist?

Seriously who does that?

Sleetandice533 · 04/12/2025 10:59

NaturalW · 04/12/2025 10:55

Just compare his behaviour to Doria who has maintained a dignified silence and behaved with grace throughout.

Shame her own daughter didn’t then apply this role model but instead became a serious shit stirrer with an unhinged pathological dislike of her ILs - when they finally saw her for who she is - and conducted a relentless, calculated, global, media campaign of money making initiatives over years and years to smear them and degrade them. Alongside lying to a High Court judge about providing secret briefings to a journalist?

Seriously who does that?

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Sorry quoted wrong post!

Frogbear · 04/12/2025 11:21

The amount of hate people have for someone they don’t know…jeez.

How much hate must you show to someone you do actually know and has actually wronged you…?

LidlAmaretto · 04/12/2025 12:01

I suspect part of it may be the influence of the other two children. He may have been fine when she was a child but his other two children are scum who's own children dont talk to them. The whole photographs thing and the running to the DM seems to stem from them and their dad is completely either controlled or influenced by them trying to make money out of his other daughter.

Sleetandice533 · 04/12/2025 12:41

simpsonthecat · 04/12/2025 10:25

I agree.

I don't blame Meghan one bit, it's her business whatever she decides to do. Or not do.

He was being interviewed endlessly and I imagine being paid for it, saying things like "it's time to look after daddy" and threatening to be interviewed every day if Meghan didnt contact him
People on mumsnet go no contact for far less
I wish her luck steering her way through this

Yes! Thank you. That was the
phrase. “It’s time to look after Daddy”. Said in the context of finances. I remember being really shocked by that. What loving father says that about his daughter? Hideous!

And I don’t understand how people can believe that he was deceived in to making those fake photos! He was a lighting directing in LA for years fhs! It’s more likely he set it all up imho.

Obviously it is a very sad situation that he is seriously ill now, I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, but let’s not underplay his role in the breakdown of the relationship. The parent should always take the lead in trying to make reparations.

I take everyone’s points about H&M selling stories on the RF family but Meghan’s relationship with her father is totally separate to that.

Also, I think Harry could have said a lot worse things in Spare. In comparison with what we now know thanks to Lownie, there were far worse things going on that should have been exposed!

As for the racism allegations from Meghan, I think it’s totally plausible she could have received a few comments from within the RF that were less than pleasant to hear. They may state that they are not a racist family now, but some older members of the family and household have been heard on camera making racist comments. And that world, until very recently, was very white and insular, In other words, I don’t know how people can be so adamant that nothing happened.

Janiie · 04/12/2025 12:45

'The amount of hate people have'

I know, all he did was sell some pics to the media. Markle junior and her husband are just as bad. You'd think they'd put their hate to bed wouldn't you and go visit him. 'Turn up and do good' I think their motto is.

bluegreygreen · 04/12/2025 12:59

As for the racism allegations from Meghan

You mean the racism allegations that Harry denied they ever made in his ITV interview with Tom Bradby?

Lavenderandbrown · 04/12/2025 13:00

Lots of insightful posts here. The MN mind does not need to know her or Thomas or Harry we all have read and witnessed their authentic self. And it’s not very likable is it?

it does seem so very ridiculous for Rachel Meghan Markle to have a televised show about entertaining and friends and family when clearly she has no friends no family and doesn’t entertain.

I noted not one single Kappa Kappa Gamma classmate attended thier wedding. All her sorority sisters left behind. And I’m sure as a wealthy selective/ insular sorority there are plenty of other kappas who are successful with wealth of their own married to successful wealthy men who MM would still find plenty in common with. Not one friend except Jessica who she used for her family connections and her children to attend her in the wedding and then dropped the second Jessica said something people didn’t agree with.

Mylovelygreendress · 04/12/2025 13:13

Sleetandice533 · 04/12/2025 12:41

Yes! Thank you. That was the
phrase. “It’s time to look after Daddy”. Said in the context of finances. I remember being really shocked by that. What loving father says that about his daughter? Hideous!

And I don’t understand how people can believe that he was deceived in to making those fake photos! He was a lighting directing in LA for years fhs! It’s more likely he set it all up imho.

Obviously it is a very sad situation that he is seriously ill now, I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, but let’s not underplay his role in the breakdown of the relationship. The parent should always take the lead in trying to make reparations.

I take everyone’s points about H&M selling stories on the RF family but Meghan’s relationship with her father is totally separate to that.

Also, I think Harry could have said a lot worse things in Spare. In comparison with what we now know thanks to Lownie, there were far worse things going on that should have been exposed!

As for the racism allegations from Meghan, I think it’s totally plausible she could have received a few comments from within the RF that were less than pleasant to hear. They may state that they are not a racist family now, but some older members of the family and household have been heard on camera making racist comments. And that world, until very recently, was very white and insular, In other words, I don’t know how people can be so adamant that nothing happened.

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And yet the Duke of Gloucester’s Māori son in law and grandchildren were welcomed into the RF and have been photographed with them on several occasions .

Janiie · 04/12/2025 13:13

'it does seem so very ridiculous for Rachel Meghan Markle to have a televised show about entertaining and friends and family when clearly she has no friends no family and doesn’t entertain.'

Yes how very sad to be doing all this not authentic at all Netflix crap whilst estranged from both sides of your family.

Mylovelygreendress · 04/12/2025 13:19

“Also, I think Harry could have said a lot worse things in Spare. In comparison with what we now know thanks to Lownie, there were far worse things going on that should have been exposed”

And yet not one word of criticism about Andrew from Harry ! Then the complete denial of punching Andrew ( which would have raised his standing in many eyes if he had!).
But lipgloss sharing is worthy of including .
I wonder why ?

simpsonthecat · 04/12/2025 13:21

when clearly she has no friends no family and doesn’t entertain.

Could you please provide proof that she has no friends no family and never entertains?
Thank you

It seems to me that posters on here talk like they know every bit of her life. Who she talks to, who she spends time with, other mums with children the same age who she might know, who she goes out with, who visits her.
You do not know unless you live in her house!

Zov · 04/12/2025 13:25

I can't bring myself to care about this @Viviennemary I have no interest in Thomas Markle, and I'm not sure what his contribution to the world is, other than selling stories on Meghan... (And Harry...)

And I wouldn't be surprised if Meghan and Harry are not bothered about him either.

NormaMajors1992coat · 04/12/2025 13:31

Sleetandice533 · 04/12/2025 12:41

Yes! Thank you. That was the
phrase. “It’s time to look after Daddy”. Said in the context of finances. I remember being really shocked by that. What loving father says that about his daughter? Hideous!

And I don’t understand how people can believe that he was deceived in to making those fake photos! He was a lighting directing in LA for years fhs! It’s more likely he set it all up imho.

Obviously it is a very sad situation that he is seriously ill now, I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, but let’s not underplay his role in the breakdown of the relationship. The parent should always take the lead in trying to make reparations.

I take everyone’s points about H&M selling stories on the RF family but Meghan’s relationship with her father is totally separate to that.

Also, I think Harry could have said a lot worse things in Spare. In comparison with what we now know thanks to Lownie, there were far worse things going on that should have been exposed!

As for the racism allegations from Meghan, I think it’s totally plausible she could have received a few comments from within the RF that were less than pleasant to hear. They may state that they are not a racist family now, but some older members of the family and household have been heard on camera making racist comments. And that world, until very recently, was very white and insular, In other words, I don’t know how people can be so adamant that nothing happened.

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Well we know that the RF aren’t racist because Harry eventually admitted that (throwing his wife under the bus in the process of course, because what she described was most certainly racism). And we know which of them has had to apologise for racism don’t we - Harry “don’t worry, she’s not black or anything” 🫤

He was perfectly happy to let the racism allegations sit there for 18 months while the press had a field day, collect an award for addressing racism in the RF, then deny they had ever said it before allowing their spokesman to name Charles and Catherine. Absolute scumbags, the pair of them.

And then he has the gall to say shite like, oh it’s time to stop fighting, but some of my family will never forgive me for writing a book. What an arsehole.

Janiie · 04/12/2025 13:36

'have no interest in Thomas Markle, and I'm not sure what his contribution to the world is, other than selling stories on Meghan... (And Harry...)'

And their contribution to the world is selling stories about the Royal Family.

I wonder if the penny will every drop with them that they are just like him. And rather than making things on Netflix shows or trying and faiing to be funny on US chat shows they should try and be their favourite word, authentic . Leave the superficial crap aside and make amends with their families.

bluegreygreen · 04/12/2025 13:40

'have no interest in Thomas Markle, and I'm not sure what his contribution to the world is, other than selling stories on Meghan... (And Harry...)'

And their contribution to the world is selling stories about the Royal Family.

Well, one of them is an Emmy award winning Hollywood lighting director ...

Sequinsoneverythingplease · 04/12/2025 13:43

Hmm, terribly unlucky for one couple to have so much trouble with almost all their families and close friends that nearly all of them need to be cut off and gone no contact with so publicly…

Sequinsoneverythingplease · 04/12/2025 13:46

bluegreygreen · 04/12/2025 13:40

'have no interest in Thomas Markle, and I'm not sure what his contribution to the world is, other than selling stories on Meghan... (And Harry...)'

And their contribution to the world is selling stories about the Royal Family.

Well, one of them is an Emmy award winning Hollywood lighting director ...

Indeed, opened lots of doors for her as well I should think. Paid all the bills, was clearly a present and loving father - Meghan said so herself. Such a dreadful shame he turned into such a problematic burden the moment Meghan met the multi millionaire, world famous, son of the heir to the throne of the UK and the world famous Princess Diana, Prince Harry. What unfortunate timing 🙁

Sleetandice533 · 04/12/2025 13:52

Sequinsoneverythingplease · 04/12/2025 13:46

Indeed, opened lots of doors for her as well I should think. Paid all the bills, was clearly a present and loving father - Meghan said so herself. Such a dreadful shame he turned into such a problematic burden the moment Meghan met the multi millionaire, world famous, son of the heir to the throne of the UK and the world famous Princess Diana, Prince Harry. What unfortunate timing 🙁

And yet he used those skills to participate in the staging of fake photos to profit from his daughter’s wedding knowing that she was already the subject of a media storm?

Nice father? I think not.

Benjithedog · 04/12/2025 13:56

Sleetandice533 · 04/12/2025 12:41

Yes! Thank you. That was the
phrase. “It’s time to look after Daddy”. Said in the context of finances. I remember being really shocked by that. What loving father says that about his daughter? Hideous!

And I don’t understand how people can believe that he was deceived in to making those fake photos! He was a lighting directing in LA for years fhs! It’s more likely he set it all up imho.

Obviously it is a very sad situation that he is seriously ill now, I wouldn’t wish that on anyone, but let’s not underplay his role in the breakdown of the relationship. The parent should always take the lead in trying to make reparations.

I take everyone’s points about H&M selling stories on the RF family but Meghan’s relationship with her father is totally separate to that.

Also, I think Harry could have said a lot worse things in Spare. In comparison with what we now know thanks to Lownie, there were far worse things going on that should have been exposed!

As for the racism allegations from Meghan, I think it’s totally plausible she could have received a few comments from within the RF that were less than pleasant to hear. They may state that they are not a racist family now, but some older members of the family and household have been heard on camera making racist comments. And that world, until very recently, was very white and insular, In other words, I don’t know how people can be so adamant that nothing happened.

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You are very much forgetting Harry’s foray into the racist depths with his own video but I’m sure you will have some excuse for his behaviour. And actually Megan’s behaviour is NO different to her father’s, brother or sister.