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Meghan's "Holiday" special aired at 8 am British time today ...

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meghansturkey · 03/12/2025 09:48

Here's a summary for you - it's full of British traditions like cracker pulling which she explains 🙄 , how to decorate a tree with lights and wearing matching pyjamas with her friends. Harry appears for the last 5 mins.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/2141430/meghan-markle-netflix-holiday-special-latest?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

I watched Meghan Markle's Holiday special and it wasn't what I expected

With Love, Meghan: Holiday Celebration premieres on Netflix today.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/2141430/meghan-markle-netflix-holiday-special-latest?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

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ShamedBySiri · 03/12/2025 20:31

ChristieMcVie · 03/12/2025 17:59

Not sure whether anyone has mentioned the notes Meghan put in the advent calendar. You really shouldn't tell your children you love them because [reasons]. Parents are supposed to love their children unconditionally, not because they fit a wish list of desirable attributes.

When my DD1 was small I used to creep in to her room last thing at night and whisper in her ear so that it would enter her subconscious. One night I was short on inspiration and said “You’re a very clever little girl and Mrs White thinks so too” (she worshipped Mrs W who ran the pre-school). She sat bolt upright, eyes wide open but unfocused and said “I know that anyway Siri” before flopping back down in a deep sleep.
I decided there and then she didn’t need her ego bolstering any more and discontinued the practice.

EmpressSisi · 03/12/2025 20:33

jumpingthehighjump · 03/12/2025 20:22

I'm 😲

Can we not tell our children we love them for whatever reason, or does that apply just to Meghan?

Most people don’t place conditions on their children’s love. A simple “I love you” is enough on its own, it shouldn’t need justification, because a parent’s love is meant to be unconditional.

Compliments can be given separately. When she says she loves them because they’re brave or kind, it raises the question to an impressionable child: if they stop being brave or kind, does her love disappear too?

It’s just clumsy execution yet again. She could make two clear, seperate statements (“I love you” and “You are kind/brave”) to convey both messages. Putting them together makes the affection sound transactional, as though her love depends on their behaviour.

EmpressSisi · 03/12/2025 20:35

meghansturkey · 03/12/2025 20:15

Meghan's father in intensive care - wonder if this will be the time for him to see his grandchildren and her.

Oh no, poor Thomas. I hope he makes a speedy recovery. She really does have the most terrible luck with timings, doesn’t she?

jumpingthehighjump · 03/12/2025 20:37

EmpressSisi · 03/12/2025 20:33

Most people don’t place conditions on their children’s love. A simple “I love you” is enough on its own, it shouldn’t need justification, because a parent’s love is meant to be unconditional.

Compliments can be given separately. When she says she loves them because they’re brave or kind, it raises the question to an impressionable child: if they stop being brave or kind, does her love disappear too?

It’s just clumsy execution yet again. She could make two clear, seperate statements (“I love you” and “You are kind/brave”) to convey both messages. Putting them together makes the affection sound transactional, as though her love depends on their behaviour.

Let's disagree shall we?

I have told my DCs, at times that I love them when they have been through something very difficult and are coping with it with resilience. There is nothing wrong with that. You are free to disagree.

meghansturkey · 03/12/2025 20:42

EmpressSisi · 03/12/2025 20:35

Oh no, poor Thomas. I hope he makes a speedy recovery. She really does have the most terrible luck with timings, doesn’t she?

Yes already her half sister has mentioned the messages of this holiday show and the reality of life with Meghan and her father. I know they don't get on but it's what some people might think and is a bit awkward.

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ChristieMcVie · 03/12/2025 20:57

EmpressSisi · 03/12/2025 20:33

Most people don’t place conditions on their children’s love. A simple “I love you” is enough on its own, it shouldn’t need justification, because a parent’s love is meant to be unconditional.

Compliments can be given separately. When she says she loves them because they’re brave or kind, it raises the question to an impressionable child: if they stop being brave or kind, does her love disappear too?

It’s just clumsy execution yet again. She could make two clear, seperate statements (“I love you” and “You are kind/brave”) to convey both messages. Putting them together makes the affection sound transactional, as though her love depends on their behaviour.

Absolutely agree with you, and you've put this so well. Attaching love to a fixed trait which they may not always be able to live up to - a complete no in my book.

EmpressSisi · 03/12/2025 21:05

jumpingthehighjump · 03/12/2025 20:37

Let's disagree shall we?

I have told my DCs, at times that I love them when they have been through something very difficult and are coping with it with resilience. There is nothing wrong with that. You are free to disagree.

Oh, I don’t think she meant it deliberately or that her love is genuinely conditional. As I said, it’s just clumsy execution. But that doesn’t change the fact that children that age are incredibly impressionable, and wording really does matter. She needs to be more mindful of how she phrases things, because even unintentional wording can leave the wrong impression. I think she’s so focused on appearing perfect that she doesn’t always think beyond the surface level.

EmpressSisi · 03/12/2025 21:08

In other news, omg Catherine 😍

and she’s wearing a new (for her) tiara 🥰

Meghan's "Holiday" special aired at 8 am British time today ...
Ohpleeeease · 03/12/2025 21:15

LidlAmaretto · 03/12/2025 10:28

Just as an aside, if you are not white, wearing 'nude' tights looks ridiculous. That was the point. It was a stupid rule. Same with the LQ's other arbitrary rules that she applied to the women of the family. Maybe she should have been more concerned about other behaviours. Like use of prostitutes and inviting spies and paedophiles to her house.

You do realise there were no “Rules”?

HMQ may have had her preferences about how people who were working in a role representing the monarchy, and her in particular, presented themselves. But there weren’t any rules.

Meghan Markle was free to cake on the bronzer and have lank messy hair and nobody stopped her.

BunnyLake · 03/12/2025 21:31

Someone on YT said Meghan wrote advent calendar notes to her children saying things like I love you because you are brave, I love you because you are so kind. Surely a mother knows you don’t use conditional words like because to a child when expressing love for them. Is she really that clueless?

Mylovelygreendress · 03/12/2025 21:34

Yes she is @BunnyLake

ChristieMcVie · 03/12/2025 21:41

BunnyLake · 03/12/2025 21:31

Someone on YT said Meghan wrote advent calendar notes to her children saying things like I love you because you are brave, I love you because you are so kind. Surely a mother knows you don’t use conditional words like because to a child when expressing love for them. Is she really that clueless?

Yep, discussed above. Poor parenting.

ChristieMcVie · 03/12/2025 21:43

EmpressSisi · 03/12/2025 21:08

In other news, omg Catherine 😍

and she’s wearing a new (for her) tiara 🥰

Yes, Catherine looking incredible, as does Camilla.

BunnyLake · 03/12/2025 21:43

Mylovelygreendress · 03/12/2025 21:34

Yes she is @BunnyLake

Shocking. But it highlights how she is not an instinctive or naturally maternal mother. Anyone with sense knows you shouldn’t tell your child you love them because they possess certain traits. Not a good example of her parenting technique.

BunnyLake · 03/12/2025 21:44

ChristieMcVie · 03/12/2025 21:41

Yep, discussed above. Poor parenting.

Oh it’s been brought up on here already? I’ll take a look through.

I should have read through first🤦‍♀️

ChristieMcVie · 03/12/2025 21:47

BunnyLake · 03/12/2025 21:44

Oh it’s been brought up on here already? I’ll take a look through.

I should have read through first🤦‍♀️

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No problem. Despite all the general amusement about this programme, this is not funny.

BunnyLake · 03/12/2025 21:49

EmpressSisi · 03/12/2025 21:05

Oh, I don’t think she meant it deliberately or that her love is genuinely conditional. As I said, it’s just clumsy execution. But that doesn’t change the fact that children that age are incredibly impressionable, and wording really does matter. She needs to be more mindful of how she phrases things, because even unintentional wording can leave the wrong impression. I think she’s so focused on appearing perfect that she doesn’t always think beyond the surface level.

The fact it’s not deliberate doesn’t make it any better. We’ve seen many examples of Meghan being incompetent and clueless, it’s a shame it also seeps into her parenting. Didn’t she say her friends come to her for parenting advice? I can’t imagine why. (They probably don’t, it’s just another nugget of fiction).

jumpingthehighjump · 03/12/2025 21:51

But it highlights how she is not an instinctive or naturally maternal mother

What a mean post

AreYouSureAskedNaomi · 03/12/2025 21:52

BunnyLake · 03/12/2025 21:43

Shocking. But it highlights how she is not an instinctive or naturally maternal mother. Anyone with sense knows you shouldn’t tell your child you love them because they possess certain traits. Not a good example of her parenting technique.

This is wild

BunnyLake · 03/12/2025 21:53

ChristieMcVie · 03/12/2025 21:47

No problem. Despite all the general amusement about this programme, this is not funny.

Yes I’m aghast. I can’t imagine saying to my kids I love you because you’re well behaved or clever or funny, the word because simply wouldn’t enter the sentence. You can say , ‘oh Archie you are funny, I do love you’. I think that is acceptable as there’s no expectation in it.

Ohpleeeease · 03/12/2025 21:55

This is just Meghan Markle being performative, she can’t help it. I’m sure she loves her children unconditionally.

BunnyLake · 03/12/2025 21:55

AreYouSureAskedNaomi · 03/12/2025 21:52

This is wild

It’s not wild. It can be damaging and as nothing seemed to prompt Meghan internally that maybe it was worded wrongly, how likely is it she brings that ignorance into her parenting generally?

BunnyLake · 03/12/2025 21:57

jumpingthehighjump · 03/12/2025 21:51

But it highlights how she is not an instinctive or naturally maternal mother

What a mean post

I would put money on it being true. Not everyone is.

Mylovelygreendress · 03/12/2025 22:00

jumpingthehighjump · 03/12/2025 21:51

But it highlights how she is not an instinctive or naturally maternal mother

What a mean post

Not everyone immediately takes to being a mother . I have a friend who struggled terribly and was quite awkward with her baby for a couple of months despite loving him . What she didn’t do was profess to be some sort of parenting guru and claim that people asked her for parenting advice .

jumpingthehighjump · 03/12/2025 22:03

BunnyLake · 03/12/2025 21:57

I would put money on it being true. Not everyone is.

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