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Tina Brown on Harry/Meghan

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MsAmerica · 25/11/2025 23:34

Tina Brown Thinks the Über-Rich Have It Coming
By Lulu Garcia-Navarro

Lulu Garcia-Navarro: One of your other specialties is the royal family. Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are trying to make their own way in the world. They’ve had a rocky time being entrepreneurs. Do you think they have anything to offer anymore?

Tina Brown: It’s very sad what’s happened to them. I have never seen anybody in professional life make as many mistakes as Meghan has, and unfortunately Harry is not the brightest bulb, either. He thought that Meghan would be his guide in the big wide world beyond Buckingham Palace, and it turns out that Meghan makes one terrible professional decision after another. And now they’re pariahs everywhere, it seems, which is a very difficult situation for them because America was supposed to be the place that paid the bills.

What is sad is that Harry’s very good at being a prince. He’s charming, he’s upbeat, he’s attractive, he makes people happy when he walks into a room, he’s very good with young people. You could send him around the world and he’s always going to be welcomed and appealing. And I think he has realized too late that he was born to be a prince. And now he’s essentially just some guy doing P.R. gigs while Meghan tries out her latest cooking idea or whatever.

It looks more and more as if Harry’s best decision would be to find a way to come back to England. I’d like to see a way for him to make amends with his family, but it gets harder and harder as the years go by. I think that William is going to be the decider of that, and I think William has a very tough view of the whole situation, which is that the betrayal of Harry is not something that can be remedied.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/15/magazine/tina-brown-interview.html

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mumofoneAloneandwell · 27/11/2025 13:27

I never comment on these Meghan threads but I agree with this Tina Brown

Time for Harry to come back and be a prince and make amends - he will improve the royal family and make them more likeable and they will provide him and meghan with financial stability

Meghan will get some stick but tbh, if camilla can be queen, meghan can survive it, plus she will have a lot of supporters in the uk

I firmly understand why they wanted out , and agree with them re meghans suffering, but they cant do anything else tbh

IcedPurple · 27/11/2025 13:35

mumofoneAloneandwell · 27/11/2025 13:27

I never comment on these Meghan threads but I agree with this Tina Brown

Time for Harry to come back and be a prince and make amends - he will improve the royal family and make them more likeable and they will provide him and meghan with financial stability

Meghan will get some stick but tbh, if camilla can be queen, meghan can survive it, plus she will have a lot of supporters in the uk

I firmly understand why they wanted out , and agree with them re meghans suffering, but they cant do anything else tbh

It's not up to them though, is it?

The royal family isn't some employer of last resort!

I think there is virtually no chance Harry, and especially Meghan, will ever be working royals again. Besides, I don't think Meghan would want it, though Harry probably would. In fact, he seems to think he never stopped being a working royal.

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 13:37

mumofoneAloneandwell · 27/11/2025 13:27

I never comment on these Meghan threads but I agree with this Tina Brown

Time for Harry to come back and be a prince and make amends - he will improve the royal family and make them more likeable and they will provide him and meghan with financial stability

Meghan will get some stick but tbh, if camilla can be queen, meghan can survive it, plus she will have a lot of supporters in the uk

I firmly understand why they wanted out , and agree with them re meghans suffering, but they cant do anything else tbh

How will Harry “improve the RF and make them more likeable” when he makes one PR mistake after another and is the least popular of any of them bar Meghan and Andrew?

Mylovelygreendress · 27/11/2025 13:41

It took Camilla many years to be even partly accepted by many people . Meghan doesn’t have the staying power plus there is no way in this world she will return to walk behind Catherine .
I agree that Harry still thinks of himself as a working Royal ; his announcement about going to Canada used the words “ other working Royals” when talking about security . Plus he seems to think his DC can choose to be working royals ! 🤷‍♀️

Indianrollerbird · 27/11/2025 13:43

Interestingly, the man of the hour, Andrew Lownie, sent the William affair rumour mill going a few days ago by repeating the old story on his Substack. Then he pulled it abruptly and apologised for it on a podcast on Monday. Blamed it on an American SM lackey overreaching, whom he says he has now sacked. I don’t think he’d have pulled it if he had solid intelligence, and wasn’t in danger of a libel suit. As far as I am aware, it didn’t contain anything we haven’t heard before.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 27/11/2025 13:44

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 13:37

How will Harry “improve the RF and make them more likeable” when he makes one PR mistake after another and is the least popular of any of them bar Meghan and Andrew?

😭 people move on, they'll forgive him and accept meghan eventually

If camilla can be queen, anything is possible

I dont even hate camilla anymore, i'm just indifferent

mumofoneAloneandwell · 27/11/2025 13:45

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 13:37

How will Harry “improve the RF and make them more likeable” when he makes one PR mistake after another and is the least popular of any of them bar Meghan and Andrew?

Hes likeable 😭

Most people dont care that much and he is still involved with his charities so that will help

BemusedAmerican · 27/11/2025 13:47

Stephen Colbert went very quiet after that lawsuit because he knew that he wouldn't win it. I suspect his network was furious.

Harry has pissed off both the Americans and the Canadians. If he moves to Antarctica, he'd probably piss off the penguins. I really doubt he will revitalize the RF.

Benjithedog · 27/11/2025 13:47

mumofoneAloneandwell · 27/11/2025 13:27

I never comment on these Meghan threads but I agree with this Tina Brown

Time for Harry to come back and be a prince and make amends - he will improve the royal family and make them more likeable and they will provide him and meghan with financial stability

Meghan will get some stick but tbh, if camilla can be queen, meghan can survive it, plus she will have a lot of supporters in the uk

I firmly understand why they wanted out , and agree with them re meghans suffering, but they cant do anything else tbh

Megan’s suffering? Oh do behave

Mylovelygreendress · 27/11/2025 13:47

He WAS likeable but in the last few years we have seen a vindictive, manipulative and petulant man .

Benjithedog · 27/11/2025 13:49

mumofoneAloneandwell · 27/11/2025 13:44

😭 people move on, they'll forgive him and accept meghan eventually

If camilla can be queen, anything is possible

I dont even hate camilla anymore, i'm just indifferent

I highly doubt that

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 13:56

mumofoneAloneandwell · 27/11/2025 13:44

😭 people move on, they'll forgive him and accept meghan eventually

If camilla can be queen, anything is possible

I dont even hate camilla anymore, i'm just indifferent

People eventually forgetting and tolerating him again is quite a long way off improving the RF and making them more likeable 😂

Harry is very unpopular, more unpopular than Camilla for example. Only Meghan and Andrew are more disliked than him.

NewAgeNewMe · 27/11/2025 13:57

I can well believe William may have had an affair. But there is no real evidence and if he did it’s not really our business. However if he did I doubt Harry or Meghan would have kept quiet. Lipgloss? Bridesmaid dresses? Smaller bedroom? And they leave out an affair? Zero chance.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 27/11/2025 13:59

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 09:01

I think that if William has had an affair and Harry and Meghan know about it, there is zero chance they wouldn’t be making not particularly subtle snide remarks about it at the very least. What would stop them - they have shown repeatedly that they don’t give a shit about other people’s privacy, the feelings of Kate or the Wales children, the reputation of the monarchy. And that they are deeply jealous of W+K and try to outdo them when they can. It might draw attention to their own less than ideal behaviour in past relationships but they certainly don’t mind a bit of hypocrisy either. Trouble in the Wales marriage would be gold dust for them.

Yes, and if he were disapproving of the affair, one would think all the gripes against Kate would be filed under "poor woman, her husband having an affair, maybe being a bit formal and no sharing lipgloss can be forgiven".

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 27/11/2025 14:02

mumofoneAloneandwell · 27/11/2025 13:27

I never comment on these Meghan threads but I agree with this Tina Brown

Time for Harry to come back and be a prince and make amends - he will improve the royal family and make them more likeable and they will provide him and meghan with financial stability

Meghan will get some stick but tbh, if camilla can be queen, meghan can survive it, plus she will have a lot of supporters in the uk

I firmly understand why they wanted out , and agree with them re meghans suffering, but they cant do anything else tbh

They poll very unfavorably with the British public.

The RF have huge issue with Andrew and his family - why would they want to have back another load of problems and unpopular personel added back.

Also they don't appear to want to do the work - whether that's in RF or privately - so not sure they are any great asset. Yes with time their PR could possible be turned round but it takes years and lots of quiet work - and at minute that seem unlikely Meghan would go along with that - they also both seem to have huge issues with he RF hierarchy and their place in it.

They've also been very nasty to member of RF, UK press even about UK in general.

Meghan currently being accused of being light fingered at photo shoots - why the hell would we want that representing our country?

I think they had a role 5 years ago a future in RF - that is gone world and RF and UK have all moved on and there is no space left now for them to come back to. I think last round of PR they tried to come back they got told that very clearly and all those leaks dried up.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 27/11/2025 14:05

Mylovelygreendress · 27/11/2025 13:47

He WAS likeable but in the last few years we have seen a vindictive, manipulative and petulant man .

He's also proved an unreliable narrator with loose lips.

No-one wants to talk to him without witnesses as they worry what he'll claim later.

NormaMajors1992coat · 27/11/2025 14:07

The RF also have a responsibility to the country don’t forget - no way will they want a whinging, spiteful liar with a drug habit representing them or us.

IcedPurple · 27/11/2025 14:13

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 27/11/2025 14:02

They poll very unfavorably with the British public.

The RF have huge issue with Andrew and his family - why would they want to have back another load of problems and unpopular personel added back.

Also they don't appear to want to do the work - whether that's in RF or privately - so not sure they are any great asset. Yes with time their PR could possible be turned round but it takes years and lots of quiet work - and at minute that seem unlikely Meghan would go along with that - they also both seem to have huge issues with he RF hierarchy and their place in it.

They've also been very nasty to member of RF, UK press even about UK in general.

Meghan currently being accused of being light fingered at photo shoots - why the hell would we want that representing our country?

I think they had a role 5 years ago a future in RF - that is gone world and RF and UK have all moved on and there is no space left now for them to come back to. I think last round of PR they tried to come back they got told that very clearly and all those leaks dried up.

There's also the fact that Harry simply isn't needed. Not that he's realised this yet. Whereas however unpopular Camilla may have been, she is the actual Queen.

I agree that they could definitely have had a role as working royals. Meghan was given prestigious patronages and they were sent on important international tours right after their marriage, so there was definitely the intention for them to be high profile royals. And given that Harry is not directly in line, they'd have had a lot of freedom to shape their role and take on causes perhaps considered too controversial for the heir. Could have been a sweet deal if you ask me. But they found freedom and the world has moved on, so twerking videos and Kardashian parties are their life now.

jeffgoldblum · 27/11/2025 14:29

They have blown it! They quit and had a very public tantrum, there is no way to rebuild the bridges they burnt .

Zubble · 27/11/2025 14:31

Camilla was eventually accepted after many, many years of keeping her head down and self-effacingly getting on with "good works."

I don't honestly see Meghan going through that process. Harry might, with guidance. Especially I can see that, if he and Meghan separated, people would be ready to blame all his misdeeds on her influence, so that would help him back into the fold.

But this is pure speculation. I don't see any reason to think that they would separate, or that either of them would want to be back in the fold.

PuppiesProzacProsecco · 27/11/2025 14:32

IdaGlossop · 27/11/2025 00:05

Unlikely. Pa is a sentimental man who will not want to come face-to-face with his god having not provided for his weak, foolish ginger boy. Trustees can oversee H being paid a monthly allowance and provision can be made for him to cottage-share with Andrew.

😂How I miss the laughing emoji reaction on here. Comedy gold right here.

3peassuit · 27/11/2025 14:39

jeffgoldblum · 27/11/2025 14:29

They have blown it! They quit and had a very public tantrum, there is no way to rebuild the bridges they burnt .

Agree. The Royal Family are meant to represent the British public on the world's stage and I for one don't wish to be represented by an overgrown toddler.

PuppiesProzacProsecco · 27/11/2025 14:54

Harry was only ever likable thanks to the palace PR machine.

I genuinely don't much care whether William has had an affair. If he has and his wife has forgiven him, that's between them. Millions of people have affairs every day - it doesn't preclude them being a monarch (just as bloody well too or we'd have run out of candidates rather a long time ago).

The idea of Me-again as anyone's moral compass is laughable though.

Indianrollerbird · 27/11/2025 14:58

mumofoneAloneandwell · 27/11/2025 13:44

😭 people move on, they'll forgive him and accept meghan eventually

If camilla can be queen, anything is possible

I dont even hate camilla anymore, i'm just indifferent

Yeah, let's give it 20 years or so before forgiving them. If they behave themselves over that sort of time frame, as Camilla did, we'll welcome them back and give them both a bus pass.

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