"He loves me so boldly...." - Haarpers Interview with Meghan

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https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/film-tv/a69289143/meghan-markle-cover-story-interview-2025/

She's a beautiful woman but i can't understand why she just doesn't drop the titles and be herself. And it's odd how she talks about how much 'H' loves her but not how much she loves him.

I don’t understand how her business can be worth 100 million when it’s never turned a profit in 20 odd years until now. I also don’t understand how the likes of Kylie Jenner and Jamie Kern Lima can become billionaires through their make up brands, or is it all completely exaggerated?

I'm not a fan of VB, but she did a fantastic job of transforming her image from 'posh Spice', Queen of the Baden Baden WAGS, famous for denim minis and a terrible boob job, to Ms. Victoria Beckham the sleek, aloof high fashion entrepreneur. Her fashion business took years to turn a profit, and some suggest it still hasn't manage to do so. Her beauty business is much more successful, and arguably that's what she should have focussed on from the start. Profit margins are sky high in cosmetics and you don't have to turn around your entire stock several times a year.

Meghan, as we've discussed, lacks perseverence and the willingness to work with experts. Also, the beauty business is extremely competitive and it's not clear what Meghan's niche would be. Duchess' own shimmering blusher, to look your best when being announced by the butler?

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Harry and Meghan did try to sue to prevent their titles being taken off them, I mean she’s already let that slip out there.

the tantrum would be epic.

I agree with you.

The underlying issue connecting all of H&M's failures is a fundamental inability to listen to advice whether it comes from family, friends, palace officials, Spotify execs, Netflix execs, etc.

H was an employee in a family business where everything was done by professionals, and H had no real responsibilities. M had a minor role on a cable TV show produced in Toronto.

There is a vast chasm between those roles and the role of a Hollywood big budget TV/movie/podcast producer which entails creative (developing show, guiding content), logistics (hiring and managing writers, cast crew, etc. location, sets, equipment) and financial (get funding, manage budget to avoid overruns).

And in the field of business any founder has to hire and manage a skilled team as the business grows. H&M's high employee turnover speaks for itself.

I do not understand how two people who know so little constantly override family, friends and professionals who are only trying to help them.

I think a lot of these 'estimates' are fiction. They look good in headlines but don't neccessarily translate to reality.

I don’t know the details but Jamie Kern Lima’s brand was sold to LOreal so those numbers seem credible, except I suppose we don’t know how much of the cash she actually got. IT Cosmetics is a very successful brand with a very successful concealer. I’ve never tried it but it was always in lists of best concealers. Concealer is a high-selling product.

I really don't understand her thinking and decisions either - she seems to be going for very ordinary factory products but charging high end prices.

With stuff like jam you need to either get it into shops in bulk at reasonable prices or make it a very exclusive, limited batch, handcrafted gift item. But selling basic jam in a fancy box just seems odd. I don't see where the repeat business is going to come from? It's clear that the first shipment was snapped up be journalists/influencers but who is going to pay $9 a week/month for a ½ sized jar of mass-produce, white label, factory jam. She needed a unique product - something Charles manages with his established Highgrove brand of local, organic products in unusual flavours rather than bog standard, mass produced.

She also seemed to jump very late onto the "celebrity wine" bandwagon as well and unless it is fantastic she's not going to get much repeat business at $30 a bottle, minimum order 3 bottles.

She seems to be following trends rather than creating them

I know nothing about business but I wonder if a potential buyer would be after Victoria Beckham as a brand name so they can whack it on any old crap. A lot of people are a bit skeptical of VB as a business woman but she is very beautiful and stylish so she has a very marketable image.

For those who remember, that phrase was only used by the newspapers , sm wasn’t as big a thing then , it has never been used by actual people and most people had forgotten about the media using it or weren’t familiar with it .
meghan reiterated it on the Oprah interview and the only people who use it now are her fans .
as I said illuminating.

It was a real b*ch move. But anyone who has dealt with that type of personality would know that is was a b*ch move, hidden as faux sympathy and concern.

Hopefully Kate will egg William on about the titles, what Karma that would be. There you go Megs, Waity Katie indeed. 😁

Oh a bunch of toddlers wouldn't react as bad, it would be quite funny.

This thread is quite funny

And it was typical of the tabloids - they were telling on themselves - they were the ones waiting for something to report on. Quiet, calm, low-key dating for several years doesn’t sell papers - they need drama.

They’ve always done this to Kate and William because they don’t do drama.

That was why Meghan appearing on the scene was such a gift - a new chance to speculate on royal rifts and cat fights - they could do the Diana years all over again.

Quite true @wordler👍

I am pretty sure they ( at least Meghan) would continue to use their titles . After all she is still using HRH despite being told not to and is brazenly monetising the Sussex title I also think Beatrice and Eugenie will lose their titles especially if they continue to snooze with dubious people .

No I don’t agree. If that were the case I think she would have been much more successful in her career. I suspect she lacks charisma in person and is very forgettable. She is photogenic and has access to good clothes and makeup, but if she weren’t attached to Harry no-one would remember her. If they ever split up, she will disappear into obscurity.

Sorry @Mylovelygreendress! , I know “ snooze” was a typo but it did make me laugh 🤣🤣 , I had images of them on velvet chaise’s napping with dubious people! 😉🤣

Ha ha , I should check before I post !! 😂

🤣 me too! , I had to edit mine 🤣 but still I think you have invented a new networking strategy that I would really excel in! 🤣

Possibly, especially as she’s smart too although EQ may be off at times. That said I think people underestimate how tough it will have been to have got the role on Suits in first place.

She got a leg up from Trevor .

What evidence do you have that she's 'smart'?

I'm not talking about getting a supporting role in a cable TV drama 15 years ago. I'm talking about how she's managed her royal and post royal life. Which of her decisions over the past 7 years suggest that she is 'smart'?

Meghan didn't invent the term Waity Katie, nor was it just the tabloids, people used it on Mumsnet too. Interestingly royal threads used to have a lot more varied opinions than now.
www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/1084758-Oooh-Waity-Katie-finally-gets-her-man?flipped=1&page=1

What does “loves me boldly” even mean?

The pompous word salad constantly whirring around in her mind must be exhausting.

I'm not one who remembered, so thank you for getting me together. Especially not being a fan of either nor someone who watched the Oprah interview. Quite illuminating.