Here we go … Andrew to leave Royal Lodge and lose title

[Flixon]

Headlined in The Times just now …. About bloody time …

But they are settled and happy, owning their own house

really? I thought they lived in someone else's house?

Err, no. Check your facts here. Purchased in 2020 for $14.65 million.

Ah okay, I see. I don’t think it would be fair to cast them out just for that though. I think they’d also need to check what gifts other royals received too, as I think there’s been a few dodgy things going on over the years about gifts and bribes that have affected a few senior royals.

I think it must have been a real shock to Charles, I can't think of a time when a British Monarch was so openly and loudly heckled by one (or more) of his own subjects on his home turf.

I would be surprised, they are universally disliked in the UK, Harry said he didn’t like the UK (long before meeting Meghan), they have called the UK nation racists, Harry has claimed the ‘British establishment’ want him and his family dead. Harry is ‘scared’ to bring his wife and children to the UK because their lives are in danger here. Why should they have British Royal titles when they denigrate the British people ?

Andrews loss of his title was punitive for his actions. Harry and Meghan’s removal would be because they both publicly verbalise how much they hate the UK, and would never want to live here.

There is no comparison between Harry and Andrew and why they both should lose their titles, two completely reasons.

Now with Andrew gone, Meghan and Harry are the two most disliked British Royals.

No I think this has been in the pipeline for a while. It would have taken some time to set it up. And it was correct that Andrew could not be forced to leave, rather it seems he has been persuaded to surrender the lease voluntarily , which was the only way it could be done. I imagine negotiations to get to this position will have taken some time

Charles wouldn’t have done anything if the media didn’t release articles about his brother. I imagine tax payers will still be funding his next home.

A clever strategy.

It’s not true that Epstein settled a lot of money on Virginia when “they parted”.

She ran away from him to Australia with nothing. Later, when he was first being investigated, she settled with him for a poxy A$500k - absolute crumbs given his crimes and how wealthy he was. She later found out he’d given other victims $5million in settlements.

You don’t think she has anything to do with her brother or heard what was going on? Even if it was a whisper? For all those years? You are deluded if so.

Now with Andrew gone, Meghan and Harry are the two most disliked British Royals

Sounds like you can't wait for something to happen to them
That's mean

I have never heard Harry say he hates the UK. Quite the opposite in fact

Just leave them alone to live their lives, if they want to do a NF series, fine, sell jam, fine, pontificate on different subjects, fine.

Mandelson said worse was yet to come. Yet it all went silence. Clinton is shown not once, not 3 times but several times on the CSA express manifest. Yet zip. He didnt just go all those times for a sandwich and a cuppa did he?

14 posts to Harry. Poor old Prince Andrew, can’t even have his own valedictory thread!🤣

Sandringham is owned privately by the King, as is Balmoral - so no taxpayer money involved.

I am not "deluded" thank you. No need for personal insults!
I just don't think we can assume that Anne knew anything. There's a bit of a tendency for wild accusations on here, let's just think about facts. I would wait for some valid evidence.
I won't insult you personally. Not my thing 😊

Woody Allen was a regular at Epstein house, he groomed his teenage stepdaughter and eventually married her, his biological daughter claimed he sexually abused her from a very young age.

Why was he such great buddy of Epstein, you would have to ask? . So many names are there in big neon lights, but crickets.

Alan Dershowitz, who was suing VG, said Andrew should have gone to court, he reckoned he would have won the legal case. In many ways it was better for VG that he didn’t take it on, otherwise she would never have been believed about any of what went on if he had won his case.

"I would be surprised, they are universally disliked in the UK"? Really? What does universal mean? My sense is that, A vocal group dislike them. Another probably less vocal like them. The majority I suspect cannot be arsed. Where do you get this universal from? EVERYONE IN THE UK dislikes them? Certainly count me out. I dont know them well enough to have strong feelings of like or dislike

Yes, I agree. There are some big names there.
I am not foolish enough to accuse willy nilly, but come on. Someone on the manifest?
I wish they could be brought to book, and if innocent? Exonerated.

May be he went there for money? Business connections? Whatever he and others went there for, let it be clarified and be made public.

Both Charles and William talk about slimming down the monarchy. One area that bugs me enormously is the "royal residence" property portfolio, both owned by the Crown and the monarch. In London there's Buckingham Palace, which nobody seems to want to live in, Clarence House, St James's Palace and Kensington Palace. There simply aren't enough Royals to justify that number of working residences.

Then just outside London they have not only Windsor Castle, but also all the properties in Windsor Great and Home Parks. And Bagshot Park which has over 100 rooms.

In Norfolk it's not just Sandringham but all the other properties on the estate, including Anmer Hall and Wood Farm.

Scotland of course has Holyyrood and Balmoral and its estate properties, as well as the Castle of Mey. Not sure about ownership of Dumfries House.

And then there's Highgrove, and Charles' house in Wales. Its just too much. In the not too distant future the RF is going to be the Waleses and the Edinburghs. They simply do not need so much. Many places were brought into the portfolio to house children of the monarch, and given the size of both George III and Victoria & Albert's families, that's understandable.

But the sheer number of properties at their disposal is obscene especially given W's focus on homelessness, and the relative sizes of the RF then and now.

This all feels like after Princess Diana's death - the backtracking when they realised just how strong public opinion was. QE2 will most certainly have known all about Epstein but did nothing about Andrew (other than maybe ponying up the £12 million hush money). KC didn't do much - made him stop using 'HRH' and sent him into coventry for a bit, hoping it'd all blow over; he's only taken this action because he's been getting heckled at public events.
Time to get rid of the lot of them.

@MikeRafone- no, they rented from a friend when they first moved to America then bought a house. There was stories about how exciting they got a mortgage! So there’s form in Royals who are no longer working royals being expected to house themselves.

I do think there’s a good question here- if Harry and Meghan are expected to house themselves and pay for their own security, why is Andrew being given another free property to live in? Albeit one the King privately owns?

I understand Andrew paid for repairs to royal Lodge out of his own pocket to the tune of a few million, so it would be right and reasonable for the King to repay Andrew for that, then Andrew be expected to buy his own house to live in as a private citizen.

Charles owns Dumfries House in Cumnock

Not everyone, certainly, but they are generally unpopular

Alan Dershowitz thought that 15 was an appropriate ‘compromise’ for age of consent.

Age of consent