Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?

[ladykale]

I find it ridiculous how there is consistent hate towards Megan markle when she does pretty low key things like launching jam that no one is being forced to buy. People were delighted that she is no longer using HRH titles and even said she shouldn’t call herself the Duchess of Sussex (even though that is distinct from royal titles).

On the flip side - NO ONE has called for an actual investigation into Prince Andrew on the days that he claimed to be at Pizza Express in Woking, when his movements are logged by the royal gamily and his security detail so they eill
know exactly where he was!

He slept with an underage victim of sex trafficking who
conveniently died by suicide shortly before her memoir naming and shaming many individuals came out.

Limited criticism of the late Queen who used £12million
pg her personal money to pay off an underage sec trafficking victim & shielded him from any investigation.

Disgusted by it all and was amused to see the vitriol on an article about Megan breathing, whereas limited calls for Andrew to be investigated by any U.S or UK authorities!

WHY?

I think as long as Meghan subscribes to the ‘make way for the Duchess of Sussex’ bull, the aggrandizing of herself at every opportunity, she will continue to be ridiculed and made fun of and rightly criticised for her bullying of her employees and people working on her projects.

I was always bemused as to why Andrew and Sarah were the benchmark for Harry and Meghan, I can see there are a lot of similiarities in their arrogance but totally different animals in public perception. It is quite unsettling their supporters continue to use Andrew as a comparator for Harry and Meghan, their supporters seem to be the only ones linking both of their antics in the same sentence.

Let’s face it, it would be hard to be as bad as Andrew, so it’s no real argument or benefit when it comes to supporting Harry and Meghan, it would be almost amusing if Andrew’s antics were not so gross.

💯
I think Andrew is an odious, vile, arrogant man and have no issues with him facing any justice deemed appropriate by our legal system.

H&M on the other hand - I just find them entertaining in a car crash wtf kind of way. From soon to be 3rd Lord & Lady of the Realm to 2nd rate IG would be influencers is quite the fall. I don't dislike them, I find them fascinating. I supported them leaving if they disliked the goldfish bowl of Senior Working Royal life, but it bewilders me on their insistence on clinging onto their British titles. Meghan being announced by a staff member into an empty room of 1 other person in a friend's house genuinely made me LOL. Harry annoys me I'll admit - has he paid the £1.5M he owes for court costs? He's shown himself to be a bitter, inadequate vengeful ma child, and clearly struggles without the men in grey suits organising his life.

Andrew - horrible man.
H&M - entertaining entitled annoyances.

Because there hasn't been anything new since the Lownie book and Andrew being stripped of all his titles.

Meanwhile Harry visited Canada in a clumsy attempt to upstage his brother's official visit to Brazil. Meghan did a cover interview for Harper's Bazaar and released the trailer for her upcoming Holiday NF show - both released at the same time as an official event attended by W&C.

Very strategic timing (as ever) by H&M. Public figures do public events for money - the public will comment.

They did leave the RF - but Harry attended events in Canada as Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex.
Meghan was on the cover of Harper's Bazaar as Meghan, Duchess of Sussex (& gets announced as such in public to a room of 1 other person).

British Royal Family Titles being used for personal gain - as a UK taxpayer I'm entitled to discuss this

Criticising the packaging on her jam jars? Why not? She's a seller. The thing is she is more than a seller - she sets herself up as someone showing the rest of us the way to an "elevated" life. Serving up a take away dinner? Use plates. She sets herself up for lampooning. She continually posts about herself and her elevated life - she blitzes social media. What does anyone expect? There to be no come back? Are we all supposed to sit back in awe? Gwyneth got lampooned for her vagina candle. Such is the life of selling especially when tied so rigidly to social media. Then there is the background of the lies and yes that is probably what many people dislike - a liar. The press all over the world have descended on Markle for some reason and it's not that lazy excuse of racism. She's a female Walter Mitty.

There is always the option to completely ignore something if you don’t like it… .

There hasn’t been anything since the Lownie book? It wasn’t published that long ago, it was closely followed by VG’s autobiography released posthumously, and then followed by pages and pages of new Epstein e-mails, being released almost on a daily basis!

You choose to believe that tabloid narrative about Harry upstaging his brother, Harry stated publically that his events had been planned way in advance of William’s.

And I am pretty sure that a company as big as Netflix will not coordinate its show releases according to William’s diary! Ditto Harper’s Bazaar. It’s a bit odd to believe that they would.

You might not like what H&M are doing but they never ever said they wanted to stop their royal duties. They wanted to combine them with some commercial work, which let’s face it, Andrew and Fergie have been doing for decades.

And I am pretty sure that a company as big as Netflix will not coordinate its show releases according to William’s diary! Ditto Harper’s Bazaar. It’s a bit odd to believe that they would.

Of course they would and do! If they feel there is anything that will give their content more of a boost then they'll use it! Odd to believe they wouldnt.

And it has happened every year since 2021.

I’m not sure why you have attached that quote to me !
it wasn’t from me originally.

Seriously? I find that very hard to believe. I think you are looking at things from a very British perspective?

Whoever it’s from it’s really vile.

I'm looking at it from my perspective, and Harper's and NF have international reach.

William & Catherine have global reach - the BRF are the most famous RF in the World. It would be incredibly naive to believe neither HB or NF wouldn't try to gain the most international exposure they could.

It’s still not my quote regardless of the opinion of it!

I find it hard to believe anyone thinks a media organisation wouldn't try to gain more attention and revenue by piggybacking onto one of the most popular members of the most famous Royal Family in the World.

Edit; this is the US HB account.

I attached it to the wrong posts of yours, but I did mean to address it to your other post as you quoted the pp and said ‘You may not agree with the tone but these are unfortunately facts.’. Classing things that she has done for acting jobs as revealing things about her character doesn’t make sense. And I also wondered what the ‘sitting on men’s knees things was about.

Do you really think the heir to the throne’s schedule is not planned a long way in advance?

Perhaps direct your questions to the actual poster who posted it then.

Earthshot being in Rio (as well as COP30) were all announced at least 12m ago.

Zero chance Harry's visit to Canada was planned before them. Laughable.

It feels like some people are determined to dislike Meghan, even to the point of believing the most absurd rumors. A lot of it is sexism and racism. As if they’re thinking, “How dare this divorced, American, biracial woman marry into royalty and point out its flaws and leave instead of quietly conforming?”
Her and Harry’s decision to step back also made the monarchy seem less relevant to many, and the fact that she’s American seemed to unsettle some people in the UK even more because independence historical reasons, a british prince going to live happily in america with a brown woman is hard for some British to swallow.

As for the media, it’s simple: Meghan sells, generate clicks, profit. they literally have a contract preventing them from talking seriously negatively about Charles and William and their wives. So they go after Meghan because she’s the most interesting and also the only one they’re actually allowed to target. She’s more interesting to the public, easier to attack, and the press knows she brings in money. While that, William and Charles threw her and Harry under the bus, leaving them exposed while the rest of the family stays protected. But the world is seeing and questioning.

There was no need for Harry to announce his trip to Canada . He is no longer a working Royal so why announce a trip if it’s not for attention ?

@Foxypuppy

“William and Charles threw her and Harry under the bus, leaving them exposed while the rest of the family stays protected. But the world is seeing and questioning.”

Could you give some examples where they were “ thrown under a bus”?

Ps:
And about Andrew: speaking out about him opens a whole chain of uncomfortable questions about the monarchy: who knew what, who protected him, who else is involved, what else they do behind closed doors, WHY he was protected, and how public money supported that protection. The institution doesn’t want that scrutiny, so Meghan becomes the easier deflection. The royals acted and the media only started covering Andrew seriously when it became impossible to ignore, but before that they leaned heavily on Meghan because she was the safer target.
Monarchists will keep pretending Meghan is an equal or bigger problem, because the alternative is confronting their own racism, hypocrisy, sexist values and lack of empathy. But it doesn’t actually convince anyone outside that bubble , most people can see exactly what’s going on.

Because he is a public figure. If he wasn’t; all of the monarchists here presumably wouldn’t be constantly starting threads about him and his wife?

This makes a lot of sense to me Foxypuppy

And I think this is spot on!

👏👏👏 very well summarised.

No one believes Meghan is an equal or bigger problem than Andrew. Andrew and questions around Andrew's public roles have important things to discuss in terms of the intersection between politicians and the monarchy, accountability and whether the system is working as it should.

Meghan and Harry put more into the public realm than Andrew so there is more to discuss about them but in no way are they problematic. They are irrelevant to the monarchy and the government, it's just interesting to watch people who had so much good will and influence lose it through their own decisions.