Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

Why is there more online vitriol towards Megan Markle than Andrew?

969 replies

ladykale · 22/10/2025 10:21

I find it ridiculous how there is consistent hate towards Megan markle when she does pretty low key things like launching jam that no one is being forced to buy. People were delighted that she is no longer using HRH titles and even said she shouldn’t call herself the Duchess of Sussex (even though that is distinct from royal titles).

On the flip side - NO ONE has called for an actual investigation into Prince Andrew on the days that he claimed to be at Pizza Express in Woking, when his movements are logged by the royal gamily and his security detail so they eill
know exactly where he was!

He slept with an underage victim of sex trafficking who
conveniently died by suicide shortly before her memoir naming and shaming many individuals came out.

Limited criticism of the late Queen who used £12million
pg her personal money to pay off an underage sec trafficking victim & shielded him from any investigation.

Disgusted by it all and was amused to see the vitriol on an article about Megan breathing, whereas limited calls for Andrew to be investigated by any U.S or UK authorities!

WHY?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
23
Spectre8 · 22/11/2025 22:55

I asked this before once and noone replied...I asked if your child turned out to have done what Andrew had woukd you have cut them off and disowned them and not associated with them whatsoever...

Those posters who loudly comment about people being associated with nefarious ppl and shouldn't...well none of then responded, you woukd of thought they would be the first to stick with their principles and say yes they would.. but there was silence or the odd comment saying its not the same blah blah...

.so stand on your principles when it comes to other people but if its your own then your principles go out the window

Such is the hypcrocrisy of some people

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 22/11/2025 23:11

bluegreygreen · 22/11/2025 16:46

First: apologies

Second: I hope that Andrew faces justice; by which I mean that if there is sufficient evidence of a case to answer it is brought appropriately and the trial proceeds as it should, rather than by media; that if he is found guilty he pays the due penalty; that more powerful men on both sides of the Atlantic are no longer able to use him as a convenient decoy. I am not sure all my hopes will be realised.

Third: I do not question any poster's legitimacy, and have apologised for one assumption above. I have also not been the person suggesting others shouldn't be posting.

Fourth: I am happy not to engage with you again.

A fair reply! Thank you 👍.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 22/11/2025 23:20

Spectre8 · 22/11/2025 22:55

I asked this before once and noone replied...I asked if your child turned out to have done what Andrew had woukd you have cut them off and disowned them and not associated with them whatsoever...

Those posters who loudly comment about people being associated with nefarious ppl and shouldn't...well none of then responded, you woukd of thought they would be the first to stick with their principles and say yes they would.. but there was silence or the odd comment saying its not the same blah blah...

.so stand on your principles when it comes to other people but if its your own then your principles go out the window

Such is the hypcrocrisy of some people

Well according to threads on here mothers will forgive and protect their children no matter how heinous the crime, that doesn’t make them hypocrites if they won’t forgive the local pedo for his crimes, what a bizarre analogy you have cooked up thinking it proves your ridiculous point.

Spectre8 · 22/11/2025 23:27

BigWillyLittleTodger · 22/11/2025 23:20

Well according to threads on here mothers will forgive and protect their children no matter how heinous the crime, that doesn’t make them hypocrites if they won’t forgive the local pedo for his crimes, what a bizarre analogy you have cooked up thinking it proves your ridiculous point.

No it makes them a hypocrite for having a pop at other people for associating with people like that and saying why would they do that, its shady blah blah but they themselves wouldn't do it if it was their own child so we should all then throw their own comments bsck in their face...

Spectre8 · 22/11/2025 23:28

BigWillyLittleTodger · 22/11/2025 23:20

Well according to threads on here mothers will forgive and protect their children no matter how heinous the crime, that doesn’t make them hypocrites if they won’t forgive the local pedo for his crimes, what a bizarre analogy you have cooked up thinking it proves your ridiculous point.

So what would you do then if it was your child? Disassociate yourself or defend them?

Indianrollerbird · 22/11/2025 23:29

Spectre8 · 22/11/2025 22:55

I asked this before once and noone replied...I asked if your child turned out to have done what Andrew had woukd you have cut them off and disowned them and not associated with them whatsoever...

Those posters who loudly comment about people being associated with nefarious ppl and shouldn't...well none of then responded, you woukd of thought they would be the first to stick with their principles and say yes they would.. but there was silence or the odd comment saying its not the same blah blah...

.so stand on your principles when it comes to other people but if its your own then your principles go out the window

Such is the hypcrocrisy of some people

You don’t sound like a parent. Most parents would not cut off their child, no matter what they have done. That bond is not broken lightly. That doesn’t mean they want to voluntarily hang out with third parties who have committed similar crimes.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 22/11/2025 23:31

Only in your pretzel world @Spectre8

BigWillyLittleTodger · 22/11/2025 23:32

Spectre8 · 22/11/2025 23:28

So what would you do then if it was your child? Disassociate yourself or defend them?

Well according to your posts on a previous thread you yourself would forgive absolutely anything so long as someone felt remorse remember?

jeffgoldblum · 22/11/2025 23:39

BigWillyLittleTodger · 22/11/2025 23:32

Well according to your posts on a previous thread you yourself would forgive absolutely anything so long as someone felt remorse remember?

True @BigWillyLittleTodger
but in cases like these a good memory is unforgivable.😁

BeeWitchy · 22/11/2025 23:53

BigWillyLittleTodger · 22/11/2025 16:25

Yes I think we need to stop engaging with a poster who says they are “not that invested” yet demonstrates completely the opposite and who reveals with every post that it is just a hatred of Catherine in particular.

Yes I think we need to stop engaging with a poster….”

Is this an organised ‘we’? Who are we?

jeffgoldblum · 22/11/2025 23:56

BeeWitchy · 22/11/2025 23:53

Yes I think we need to stop engaging with a poster….”

Is this an organised ‘we’? Who are we?

We the people.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 23/11/2025 00:00

BeeWitchy · 22/11/2025 23:53

Yes I think we need to stop engaging with a poster….”

Is this an organised ‘we’? Who are we?

Posters who were involved in that particular conversation, not that I need to explain myself to you.

jeffgoldblum · 23/11/2025 00:04

The people with eyes.

BeeWitchy · 23/11/2025 00:18

However her years as a party girl sitting on old men's knees are out there online - dressed as a sexy maid, giving a blow job in a car, creeping around Rory McIlroy and others. We can see what Meghan's character is. She seems to have done anything to climb up.

This post says more about the poster than it does about Meghan.

It’s a vile post.

jeffgoldblum · 23/11/2025 00:25

BeeWitchy · 23/11/2025 00:18

However her years as a party girl sitting on old men's knees are out there online - dressed as a sexy maid, giving a blow job in a car, creeping around Rory McIlroy and others. We can see what Meghan's character is. She seems to have done anything to climb up.

This post says more about the poster than it does about Meghan.

It’s a vile post.

Edited

You may not agree with the tone but these are unfortunately facts.

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 23/11/2025 00:31

ConverseAddict · 22/11/2025 18:50

As discussed many times, everyone hates Andrew, everyone, so there is less debate. When everyone agrees what is there to talk about.
MM has people who like her and people who don’t - hence the debate.

Nothing personal against you ConverseAddict but it* *frustrates me that this argument keeps being rolled out to justify multiple negative threads against H&M when there is loads and loads still to discuss about Prince Andrew:

-does the possibility still exist that he will go to prison?
-will he will go and live in the Middle East before that happens?
-will victims younger than Virginia Giuffre come forward either in UK or USA?
-did the RF distance themselves from Andrew bc of people power or bc they know that more is yet to come?
-will the trade envoy papers ever come to light?
-which senior uk civil servants and politicians are being protected?
-will MPs lobby that they are released?

Surely just point one above, the prospect of a member of the RF in prison, is worth a thread on its own even without the rest?

But no, let’s have more threads about Harry and Meghan! I honestly don’t get it!

I am trying to make a fair point here. Not being deliberately narky. Do posters who tend to stick up for the RF genuinely not see any merit in it? Because like it or not, every time a thread is created about M&H at this particular juncture, when there is so much to discuss about Andrew, and the Epstein papers are in the news, it looks like it is deliberately done to distract away from the RF’s troubles.

And if you really cared about the future of the monarchy and the country, wouldn’t you be more interested in getting answers to these questions rather than just hating on Meghan? That is why some of us are sceptical. Does that make sense?

jeffgoldblum · 23/11/2025 00:45

But Andrew … everyone hates Andrew.
but Andrew … no , everyone hates Andrew .
but there is more to discuss about Andrew … everyone hates and wants Andrew punished.
but Andrew … no everyone hates Andrew and some of us find his actions triggering from personal experience.
but Andrew … everyone agrees he is a colossal twat.
harry and Meghan have behaved badly and ridiculously, myself and many others find them entertainingly amusing and worthy of ridicule and ribbing ( which is the U.K. way) .
andrew and his actions are beyond humour, beyond ribbing, beyond jokes , it’s entirely different and if you can’t understand or see that then 🤷‍♀️

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 23/11/2025 01:27

jeffgoldblum · 23/11/2025 00:45

But Andrew … everyone hates Andrew.
but Andrew … no , everyone hates Andrew .
but there is more to discuss about Andrew … everyone hates and wants Andrew punished.
but Andrew … no everyone hates Andrew and some of us find his actions triggering from personal experience.
but Andrew … everyone agrees he is a colossal twat.
harry and Meghan have behaved badly and ridiculously, myself and many others find them entertainingly amusing and worthy of ridicule and ribbing ( which is the U.K. way) .
andrew and his actions are beyond humour, beyond ribbing, beyond jokes , it’s entirely different and if you can’t understand or see that then 🤷‍♀️

Ah well.

I see my attempt to engage in genuine debate was pretty pointless.

BeeWitchy · 23/11/2025 03:41

jeffgoldblum · 23/11/2025 00:25

You may not agree with the tone but these are unfortunately facts.

That post told me more about the poster than it did about Meghan, and the same goes for anyone who tries to defend it.

AllThisTime · 23/11/2025 06:05

jeffgoldblum · 23/11/2025 00:45

But Andrew … everyone hates Andrew.
but Andrew … no , everyone hates Andrew .
but there is more to discuss about Andrew … everyone hates and wants Andrew punished.
but Andrew … no everyone hates Andrew and some of us find his actions triggering from personal experience.
but Andrew … everyone agrees he is a colossal twat.
harry and Meghan have behaved badly and ridiculously, myself and many others find them entertainingly amusing and worthy of ridicule and ribbing ( which is the U.K. way) .
andrew and his actions are beyond humour, beyond ribbing, beyond jokes , it’s entirely different and if you can’t understand or see that then 🤷‍♀️

However her years as a party girl sitting on old men's knees are out there online - dressed as a sexy maid, giving a blow job in a car, creeping around Rory McIlroy and others. We can see what Meghan's character is. She seems to have done anything to climb up.

What’s the thing about her sitting on old men’s knees?

The sexy maid and blow job in a car were acting jobs weren’t they?

‘Creeping’ around Rory Mciilroy. Apparently they were friends, or maybe they had a relationship.

Why does any of that matter? There may be other things we can judge what her character is like from but I don’t think friendships and romances tell us much or especially acting jobs. Lots of actors take shit jobs whilst they’re trying to make it or make a living.

Lifestooshort71 · 23/11/2025 07:42

Andrew is beneath contempt and I can see his future unfolding in the daily news so I don't feel the need to comment on someone who has been smacked down and whose punishment has already begun

Meghan puts herself in the news (it seems daily) with her sales gimmicks and public appearances and, because I can't see her behaviour harming anyone (I'm not rehashing all the old stuff), it's fun to get involved in threads that joke about her aspirations, her 'royalty' and her interactions with mere mortals. Soap opera stuff. Yes, some posters do go in hard, but most of us are just having a bit of banter - no vitriol, no hatred - and we know where to draw the line. If you set yourself up every day as someone superior then you must expect to get a few knocks.

ConverseAddict · 23/11/2025 08:58

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 23/11/2025 00:31

Nothing personal against you ConverseAddict but it* *frustrates me that this argument keeps being rolled out to justify multiple negative threads against H&M when there is loads and loads still to discuss about Prince Andrew:

-does the possibility still exist that he will go to prison?
-will he will go and live in the Middle East before that happens?
-will victims younger than Virginia Giuffre come forward either in UK or USA?
-did the RF distance themselves from Andrew bc of people power or bc they know that more is yet to come?
-will the trade envoy papers ever come to light?
-which senior uk civil servants and politicians are being protected?
-will MPs lobby that they are released?

Surely just point one above, the prospect of a member of the RF in prison, is worth a thread on its own even without the rest?

But no, let’s have more threads about Harry and Meghan! I honestly don’t get it!

I am trying to make a fair point here. Not being deliberately narky. Do posters who tend to stick up for the RF genuinely not see any merit in it? Because like it or not, every time a thread is created about M&H at this particular juncture, when there is so much to discuss about Andrew, and the Epstein papers are in the news, it looks like it is deliberately done to distract away from the RF’s troubles.

And if you really cared about the future of the monarchy and the country, wouldn’t you be more interested in getting answers to these questions rather than just hating on Meghan? That is why some of us are sceptical. Does that make sense?

We can’t really discuss any of those things because we don’t know. It would be all guesswork what will happen to him. It’s very much private and behind closed doors. He rarely appears in public, there’s no comment publicly.
My contribution would be ‘what a twat, not a clue what will happen to him’.

whereas M&H are doing things that are tangible and can be talked about.

It’s not even slightly comparable.

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 23/11/2025 09:05

Lifestooshort71 · 23/11/2025 07:42

Andrew is beneath contempt and I can see his future unfolding in the daily news so I don't feel the need to comment on someone who has been smacked down and whose punishment has already begun

Meghan puts herself in the news (it seems daily) with her sales gimmicks and public appearances and, because I can't see her behaviour harming anyone (I'm not rehashing all the old stuff), it's fun to get involved in threads that joke about her aspirations, her 'royalty' and her interactions with mere mortals. Soap opera stuff. Yes, some posters do go in hard, but most of us are just having a bit of banter - no vitriol, no hatred - and we know where to draw the line. If you set yourself up every day as someone superior then you must expect to get a few knocks.

Thanks for the reasonable reply.

All I can say is that your definition of “a bit of banter” is very different to mine, and for me, endless disparagement of one person doesn’t qualify as “fun”, it qualifies as on-line bullying.

And although you personally may know where to draw the line, there are comments on this thread and others, that really do cross it.

For example, if you talk to any successful actress of a certain age in LA, I think you will find it’s only in very recent history, post-Weinstein and the Me Too movement, that your average hustling actress, doesn’t have to virtually prostitute themselves to get roles, And as we learnt from that debacle, that wasn’t the actresses fault. Not that those truly disgusting stories about Meghan are verifiable anyway,

There have been threads on here that insult Meghan’s clothes, question her pregnancies, make unfounded accusations about her mother who has always behaved with wisdom and grace; there have been comments that disparage Meghan’s parenting, mock her hair, and her facial expressions, even the way she walks in to a room fhs. It’s gone way, way beyond “a bit of banter” at this point.

And what Meghan, one person, has done to damage the reputation of the UK is nothing in comparison to a two decade cover up perpetrated by the RF and many others, in relation to one of their own.

And what she has done is nothing in comparison to Prince Andrew who increasingly looks like he has been involved in exploitative sexual and financial activities that break the law, while being financed by the British tax payer.

Do posters understand that the RF they adore so much would still be happily covering up Andrew’s activities now had Jeffrey Epstein’s case not come to light in the USA?

By posting so much about Meghan. I think some posters are deliberately attempting to distract from the fact that it’s gradually emerging that a lot of what Harry has said about the press briefings and cover ups and throwing one member of the family under the bus to protect another, was fairly accurate!

And as BeeWitchy commented earlier, the hypocrisy of criticising Meghan for monetising her position having left the RF, when Sarah Ferguson has been doing the same for thirty years, is undeniable. Let’s face it, the only difference is that SF has been squirrelling away cash while pretending to praise the royal family! So that’s ok then!

You may not like Meghan, and there are things she has done which I don’t particularly care for, but she had a right to leave the RF and make her own way in life, and raise her children without facing this endless daily on-line onslaught of negativity against her, which has all gone way, way over the top now. Enough is enough.

ChatHeeBeeGez6298 · 23/11/2025 09:20

ConverseAddict · 23/11/2025 08:58

We can’t really discuss any of those things because we don’t know. It would be all guesswork what will happen to him. It’s very much private and behind closed doors. He rarely appears in public, there’s no comment publicly.
My contribution would be ‘what a twat, not a clue what will happen to him’.

whereas M&H are doing things that are tangible and can be talked about.

It’s not even slightly comparable.

Sorry but I don’t get this justification at all!

Lots of posters know nothing say, about the intricacies of Meghan’s business deals, to pick one topic at random, but that doesn’t stop threads appearing in which there is endless speculating and guessing frankly!
Right down to criticising the packaging on her jam jars as I recall!

You are saying that because, until very recently, Andrew has remained within the bubble of privilege and privacy that being a member of the RF affords him, he comes in for less criticism? Despite his alleged crimes being far, far worse?

And that’s ok?

So in other words, everyone criticising Meghan subscribes to the same philosophy as their beloved royals; it’s alright what you do, as long as you do it behind a protected wall of privacy!

ConverseAddict · 23/11/2025 09:31

@ChatHeeBeeGez6298but we have more personal experiences of businesses and being consumers and gives us some knowledge to comment. That is only some commenters, lots are talking about the media/content she’s sharing, actual material.
Most of us have no knowledge what will happen with a royal involved in the trafficking of young women, it’s a kind of niche area of expertise.

its not criticism but it doesn’t make much of a thread if everyone just says ‘yes I think he’s a creep’. It’s not a discussion as it’s been pointed out many times. If someone wants to start a pro A thread you might get more debate going.

Swipe left for the next trending thread