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Why is Meghan hated?

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YourBrickTiger · 07/10/2025 13:26

I have very strong views about the Royals especially Camilla, however I am genuinely interested and want to find out more as to why Meghan Markle seems to be so hated. I'm asking in case there is something I have missed. I do read up as much as I can and watch shows from 'both sides' of the argument, but there is nothing that I have seen so far that warrants the level of sheer hatred geared towards her - I don't mean on here necessarily, but on social media in general. She cannot do ANYTHING without a swarm of people descending on her like vampires to tear her apart.

She isn't an adulteress, she's not a paedophile or sex offender, she isn't lazy, she seems to genuinely care about people in need.....and from what has been shown, she genuinely loves Harry and is just trying to make a life with him. He left the UK to start a life away from a nest of some awful people, his mother died when he was 12, his uncle is a sex offender, there is racism and a rigid set of rules within that family where he won't be king anyway so what is wrong with him leaving?

I'm not starting this to start an argument I am genuninely interested in why she is so rabidly disliked and why? Maybe I will start to feel differently if there is more of a reason but at the moment I cannot see one?

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Winnertrinner · 19/10/2025 23:05

Letmeoutodhere · 19/10/2025 21:19

She didn’t have a career though. I have read that she ran a shop/was cabin crew/was living in a commune/ worked for a travel agent. No one seems to have any idea, which is very strange. Also was she really a social worker? That seems to be very unclear too. She supposedly owns a care home now which has no staff and seems to be there in name only. Clear as mud.

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She qualified with a Masters in social work late in life (50 odd?) and did work in this field for a few years before leaving when MM married PH.

Then she did set up a company called something like ‘Senior living loving care’ which is just a tax dodge / shell company.

It’s reported that she had a variety of careers and businesses prior to the above (something in common with her DD - trying lots of things to earn a crust?) - yoga teacher, selling clothes, cabin crew, travel agent (the latter reportedly set up with financial help from TM but which led to criminal proceedings due to non payment of taxes / fraud.

Winnertrinner · 20/10/2025 00:17

Letmeoutodhere · 19/10/2025 11:46

I’ve been thinking about all this quite a lot. My conclusions are that Meghan had quite a lonely isolated childhood, not feeling she fitted in . Absent mother, father who seemed to be quite needy but not nurturing in the normal sense. He may have paid for her to do thingss, but I wonder if he was a loving steady presence, guiding and supporting her whilst setting boundaries. I don’t think so. He doesn’t seem to have any friends or interests . M didn’t see any wider family much as far as I can tell, and didn’t get on with her half siblings.
I suspect that M retreated into a bit of a fantasy world as a coping mechanism. In later life Daddy was bigged up as being so wonderful, boasting about their close relationship . I don’t believe it was a happy loving relationship. Later, when it didn’t suit her purposes, she put her mother on a pedestal. I don’t think she truly has a close and loving relationship with her either. It’s a case of them both playing a part. When D doesn’t fit the narrative, M becomes visibly annoyed.

I honestly don’t think she knows how to have a normal non contractual relationship with another person, I don’t think she’s learned the skills. The hand holding is a way of playing the part of closeness as she doesn’t really know what closeness looks like. I also think she has trust issues . Harry is perhaps the only person she really trusts, but even her relationship with him is very performative. She gushes about him and how in love they are. His face tells a different story. He’s probably the person in her life who has loved her and supported her the most, at the cost of his own wellbeing and autonomy.

I think that you have covered a lot of ground here. A couple of further observations from me that would likely have evolved a fragile sense or self for MM might include:

Her DM was very young marrying TM who was much older than her and ‘privileged’ due to his career status compared to hers and his status as a successful white male. There was likely a power imbalance not in Dorias favour. He had already left one family / set of DCs on the otherside of the continent to pursue his career. He then mover SM and TMjr over as teenagers - both seemingly troubled - and Doria ended up caring / managing them with not much age difference, so lots of responsibility but little authority. They called her ‘the maid’. She was also looked down upon in the white middle class area that TM lived in. This can’t have been a pleasant or emotionally stable environment for MM to be born in to and DR and TM had separated by the time she was 2 years old suggesting a volatile or deficient home life. Those must have been fraught early years. I also see TM possibly as a mix of workaholic, maybe ND and maybe problematic with alcohol. This could be an inadvertently emotionally negligent environment even though TM did materially provide for MM. I can see how having two parents experiencing simultaneous emotional challenges would expose MM to insecurity which might explain her sometimes jarring and tricky personality.

Letmeoutodhere · 20/10/2025 01:28

Winnertrinner · 20/10/2025 00:17

I think that you have covered a lot of ground here. A couple of further observations from me that would likely have evolved a fragile sense or self for MM might include:

Her DM was very young marrying TM who was much older than her and ‘privileged’ due to his career status compared to hers and his status as a successful white male. There was likely a power imbalance not in Dorias favour. He had already left one family / set of DCs on the otherside of the continent to pursue his career. He then mover SM and TMjr over as teenagers - both seemingly troubled - and Doria ended up caring / managing them with not much age difference, so lots of responsibility but little authority. They called her ‘the maid’. She was also looked down upon in the white middle class area that TM lived in. This can’t have been a pleasant or emotionally stable environment for MM to be born in to and DR and TM had separated by the time she was 2 years old suggesting a volatile or deficient home life. Those must have been fraught early years. I also see TM possibly as a mix of workaholic, maybe ND and maybe problematic with alcohol. This could be an inadvertently emotionally negligent environment even though TM did materially provide for MM. I can see how having two parents experiencing simultaneous emotional challenges would expose MM to insecurity which might explain her sometimes jarring and tricky personality.

Yes. All of those thoughts had occurred to me too. A really dysfunctional childhood. I think her father also had drug issues . Interesting that H by his own admission had drug issues too.

I also read something a while back about her mother being very involved in some sort of religious group . Her parents were both involved and got married within this context. M was taken to ‘church’. I’ve never seen this mentioned elsewhere but there seems to have been indoctrination going on and one account suggested that Doria may have left to live in a religious community.

ThePoshUns · 20/10/2025 08:18

Both her parents were heavy cannabis users and prone to casual affairs according to the book I read. Think Tom Bower?

YourBrickTiger · 20/10/2025 10:07

jonthebatiste · 16/10/2025 17:20

Wtf?

This thread has descended into some sort of weird parallel universe. Sex offender apologists left and right.

It's ok I have no doubt that in the end, whether it be Andrew or Trump's sex offences, somehow...somewhere, it will be found that the person to blame for it ALL....

IS MEGHAN😂

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deeahgwitch · 20/10/2025 10:55

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/10/2025 17:43

We don't know, deeahgwitch, but can be pretty certain that the palace will ...

I guessed they might 😀

Coolasfeck · 20/10/2025 18:52

I’ve just been reading extracts from Virginia’s book and she mentions him hiring trolls to harass her on the net. Many of us have long suspected Palace teams of hiring paid trolls. I believe Meghan was subjected to a troll campaign to protect Andrew and deflect from other Royals.

I believe that not only will Andrew be disgraced, the whole dark arts operation sitting behind the Royal family will be exposed. These people are ruthless when it comes to protecting The Firm.

I also think The Queen favoured Andrew so much that she would have quietly been on board with whatever it took to protect his name. Ruthless. Look at how the Palace trashed Diana 24/7 pre-internet to convince everyone she was a lunatic post divorce (can you imagine what it would have been like during the social media age?!). This couldn’t have happened without her offices approval.

Meghan was not ready for the palace back office operations team at all.

bluegreygreen · 20/10/2025 19:04

Look at how the Palace trashed Diana 24/7 pre-internet to convince everyone she was a lunatic post divorce

In what way? Diana did a fairly good job of trashing herself, by her behaviour, such as stalking married men and their wives.

Coolasfeck · 20/10/2025 19:55

bluegreygreen · 20/10/2025 19:04

Look at how the Palace trashed Diana 24/7 pre-internet to convince everyone she was a lunatic post divorce

In what way? Diana did a fairly good job of trashing herself, by her behaviour, such as stalking married men and their wives.

We wouldn’t even have known any of this if she was in the palaces good books. If you are in the good books relatively ‘minor’ things like that would never see the light of day. Instead the palace wave it through to be exposed and fan the flames.

The Royal Family is probably the world’s oldest institution (outside the Church). It’s an organisation that has honed its survival skills over hundreds years. For example I reckon the media have stuff on Mike Tindall. A couple of warning shots things have come out but for now he’s largely protected, until they’re ready to throw him to the wolves to save someone more important to the survival of the institution.

chunkybear · 20/10/2025 20:58

Coolasfeck · 20/10/2025 19:55

We wouldn’t even have known any of this if she was in the palaces good books. If you are in the good books relatively ‘minor’ things like that would never see the light of day. Instead the palace wave it through to be exposed and fan the flames.

The Royal Family is probably the world’s oldest institution (outside the Church). It’s an organisation that has honed its survival skills over hundreds years. For example I reckon the media have stuff on Mike Tindall. A couple of warning shots things have come out but for now he’s largely protected, until they’re ready to throw him to the wolves to save someone more important to the survival of the institution.

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It wasn’t it her who talked about it on telly with Martin Bashir when he forged things to trick her

jeffgoldblum · 20/10/2025 23:41

Coolasfeck · 20/10/2025 19:55

We wouldn’t even have known any of this if she was in the palaces good books. If you are in the good books relatively ‘minor’ things like that would never see the light of day. Instead the palace wave it through to be exposed and fan the flames.

The Royal Family is probably the world’s oldest institution (outside the Church). It’s an organisation that has honed its survival skills over hundreds years. For example I reckon the media have stuff on Mike Tindall. A couple of warning shots things have come out but for now he’s largely protected, until they’re ready to throw him to the wolves to save someone more important to the survival of the institution.

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Are you actually saying that behaviour doesn’t matter if it’s not made public? Really? 🤔

Coolasfeck · 21/10/2025 05:11

jeffgoldblum · 20/10/2025 23:41

Are you actually saying that behaviour doesn’t matter if it’s not made public? Really? 🤔

No, that’s clearly not what I said at all. But I guess if you lack reading comprehension skills, you could come to that conclusion.

MrsFinkelstein · 21/10/2025 07:54

I believe the Press found out via the Met about the harassing phone calls (100s of them) Diana made to Oliver Hoare's wife.

I also think Julia Carling went to the press about Diana's affair with her husband. As did Dodi Fayed's fiancé.

Diana also went to the Press herself - multiple times, most publicly Martin Bashir. She lied about cooperating with Andrew Morton.

Let's not rewrite history here.

Letmeoutodhere · 21/10/2025 08:04

Diana constantly courted the Press for her own ends. Can’t say I blame her, but that last summer with Dodi was all very tasteless. I think she was out of control and making very poor choices.

bluegreygreen · 21/10/2025 09:07

Let's not rewrite history here.

Yes, there seems to be a lot of it about at the minute.

ERthree · 21/10/2025 09:35

Letmeoutodhere · 20/10/2025 01:28

Yes. All of those thoughts had occurred to me too. A really dysfunctional childhood. I think her father also had drug issues . Interesting that H by his own admission had drug issues too.

I also read something a while back about her mother being very involved in some sort of religious group . Her parents were both involved and got married within this context. M was taken to ‘church’. I’ve never seen this mentioned elsewhere but there seems to have been indoctrination going on and one account suggested that Doria may have left to live in a religious community.

Her Mother had drug issues too and often had a house full of drug users when the children came home from school (allegedly)

Letmeoutodhere · 21/10/2025 09:48

ERthree · 21/10/2025 09:35

Her Mother had drug issues too and often had a house full of drug users when the children came home from school (allegedly)

What?? Where did you read this? Also child or children?

ThePoshUns · 21/10/2025 10:44

It’s in Tom Bower’s book Revenge.
Thomas Markle left Doria because of her heavy cannabis use and casual affairs. She reportedly disappeared for weeks on end going on buying trips for her clothing business. She wasn’t a present mother at all according to the book. Thomas was the one who brought Meghan up and was the most stable although no angel himself when it came to drugs and women.
I do have some sympathy for Meghan as her early childhood sounds pretty awful.

ThePoshUns · 21/10/2025 10:44

Children- Thomas’s children from his first marriage also lived with them.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/10/2025 10:46

I'm fairly sure the "Doria's a druggie" thing was in one of the books, @letmeoutofhere ... Revenge, I think

BigAnne · 21/10/2025 11:08

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/10/2025 10:46

I'm fairly sure the "Doria's a druggie" thing was in one of the books, @letmeoutofhere ... Revenge, I think

Strange that no-one from her past has come forward to confirm this.

27TimesAway · 21/10/2025 11:11

Or deny.

Considering how notoriously litigious MM and PH are.

Letmeoutodhere · 21/10/2025 11:18

I wouldn't have thought she was the ideal person to look after Meghan's children then. Though reportedly she has now moved out.

Winnertrinner · 21/10/2025 11:19

Cannabis use in Cali amongst alternatives / creatives / hippies which DR would identify herself as (MM described her as a hippie) was then very common and assume relatively socially acceptable - and now legal. So I wouldn’t see her as a crackhead druggie IYSWIM. I also think she must have had a grim time in her short marriage raising TM problematic teens single handedly as young woman as TM worked around the clock. She was probably lonely and isolated. But it seems she had a cooperative relationship with TM after the marriage failed. They shared care of M, TM apparently gave/lent/invested money in a company DR set up, they both gave her away on her first wedding and both shared Thanksgiving jointly with MM in either 2016 or 2017 - so all seemingly amicable.

She has withdrawn from the limelight recently as she hasn’t been seen at any of the public events she enjoyed frequenting either alone or with MM, or any of the Sussex family events/posts for coming up to 2 years now. She always looks stoic and calm to me - like she is waiting for something / someone to blow - which was likely her experience in the Markle household.

MaturingCheeseball · 21/10/2025 11:22

Both Thomas and Doria seem rather shady. And certainly sketchy. No wonder Thomas was eliminated from the wedding and Doria was under the care of a Sunshine Sachs handler. Thomas couldn’t be trusted to keep his mouth shut and Doria was probably wired up to a cattle prod which was activated the second she made to speak.

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