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Why is Meghan hated?

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YourBrickTiger · 07/10/2025 13:26

I have very strong views about the Royals especially Camilla, however I am genuinely interested and want to find out more as to why Meghan Markle seems to be so hated. I'm asking in case there is something I have missed. I do read up as much as I can and watch shows from 'both sides' of the argument, but there is nothing that I have seen so far that warrants the level of sheer hatred geared towards her - I don't mean on here necessarily, but on social media in general. She cannot do ANYTHING without a swarm of people descending on her like vampires to tear her apart.

She isn't an adulteress, she's not a paedophile or sex offender, she isn't lazy, she seems to genuinely care about people in need.....and from what has been shown, she genuinely loves Harry and is just trying to make a life with him. He left the UK to start a life away from a nest of some awful people, his mother died when he was 12, his uncle is a sex offender, there is racism and a rigid set of rules within that family where he won't be king anyway so what is wrong with him leaving?

I'm not starting this to start an argument I am genuninely interested in why she is so rabidly disliked and why? Maybe I will start to feel differently if there is more of a reason but at the moment I cannot see one?

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smilesy · 08/10/2025 20:49

vitamindandsun · 08/10/2025 19:22

Harry went to his family to tell them about the racial abuse several times. The family offered no help, basically said 'why can't she just deal with it?'

My 'shut up' comment was actually about all the millions of posts condemning M&H for their Netflix and other appearances. My point is that this narrative about 'airing dirty linen in public' is a very toxic one.

How do you know Harry went to his family? From Harry? He who doesn’t have a particularly close relationship with facts by his own admission?

As for them making documentaries and appearing on Oprah to tell their story, that would be fine if their story had been accurate. But it wasn’t 🤷‍♀️

vitamindandsun · 08/10/2025 20:50

smilesy · 08/10/2025 20:49

How do you know Harry went to his family? From Harry? He who doesn’t have a particularly close relationship with facts by his own admission?

As for them making documentaries and appearing on Oprah to tell their story, that would be fine if their story had been accurate. But it wasn’t 🤷‍♀️

Honestly, it's emotional intelligence

Letmeoutodhere · 08/10/2025 20:53

smilesy · 08/10/2025 20:49

How do you know Harry went to his family? From Harry? He who doesn’t have a particularly close relationship with facts by his own admission?

As for them making documentaries and appearing on Oprah to tell their story, that would be fine if their story had been accurate. But it wasn’t 🤷‍♀️

Harry said himself he didn’t speak to his family about it because he was ashamed.

Mylovelygreendress · 08/10/2025 20:59

vitamindandsun · 08/10/2025 20:47

This changes absolutely nothing. Who cares?

You said they left because M was suicidal and no one would help.
Their own words show that they had no plans to leave until they heard the word no .
Not sure why that’s so hard to understand .

smilesy · 08/10/2025 21:00

vitamindandsun · 08/10/2025 20:50

Honestly, it's emotional intelligence

What about the effect that Meghan’s behaviour has had on her staff? Do you have the emotional intelligence to empathise with them? I don’t buy the story that she had the best and most expensive maternity package which included access to a consultant in maternal mental health and neither she nor Harry could get any urgent help, but thought it was up to Harry’s grandmother or SiL. I don’t need emotional intelligence to see through bullshit 😊

vitamindandsun · 08/10/2025 21:06

Letmeoutodhere · 08/10/2025 20:53

Harry said himself he didn’t speak to his family about it because he was ashamed.

He went to them about racist harassment in the press, and they shrugged and said 'meh' basically. Starting to feel a bit sorry for people who don't have empathy or understand the way the press and palace machinery work to manipulate public opinion.

lizzyBennet08 · 08/10/2025 21:58

I don't hate her, loved her style when she was a working royal . But we wouldn't be friends in real life. She doesn't come across as authentic to me, it almost feels like she is 'playing a role' and I'm allergic to self pity generally so just got the ick when she was doing all the interviews and the like.
I totally get it that she as an American feminist was like wtf with this royal Carry on ie walking behind Harry etc and I also got the impression that she expected to be universally adored and planned to show the stuffy oul royals how things should be done .
In a nut shell I think her extreme self confidence put me off her personally ..

Catpuss66 · 08/10/2025 22:23

BananaPeels · 08/10/2025 11:19

But Williams’s children were the children of the direct heir to the throne . There is clearly a difference. After they were born it was clear that Harry and his family were less important and by extension would not get the same rights and privileges. He would fall into the same camp as Prince Edward whose children didn’t take royal titles or have mass security.

Think you will find both Edward & Anne were given the choice for their children to have titles they choose not to. Not sure when this was mentioned Harry was told he would not get a choice, if anything it was badly handled by the royal household unless it was done on purpose. Obviously no one will really know what went on sure lots going on behind the scenes.

BananaPeels · 08/10/2025 22:24

Catpuss66 · 08/10/2025 22:23

Think you will find both Edward & Anne were given the choice for their children to have titles they choose not to. Not sure when this was mentioned Harry was told he would not get a choice, if anything it was badly handled by the royal household unless it was done on purpose. Obviously no one will really know what went on sure lots going on behind the scenes.

They were the children of the monarch. Harry was the grandchild of the monarch. That is a big difference.

Indianrollerbird · 08/10/2025 22:47

Catpuss66 · 08/10/2025 22:23

Think you will find both Edward & Anne were given the choice for their children to have titles they choose not to. Not sure when this was mentioned Harry was told he would not get a choice, if anything it was badly handled by the royal household unless it was done on purpose. Obviously no one will really know what went on sure lots going on behind the scenes.

How many times does it need to be said? Elizabeth II was not Harry’s mother, so what she offered her own children is immaterial to Harry’s case. All QEII’s great grandchildren have been treated equally apart from the children directly in line for the throne via their father, William.

everychildmatters · 08/10/2025 22:53

She comes across as a strong woman who knows her own mind and a lot of people dislike women like that.

Catpuss66 · 08/10/2025 22:59

prelovedusername · 07/10/2025 21:24

Without wishing to be accused of being “nasty”, the RF threads are bursting with evidence if you care to read them. There are posters with in depth knowledge and professional expertise who contribute regularly. You’re asking people to rehash things which have been posted a thousand times over.

Evidence you get from where…the media. Nuff said.

Catpuss66 · 08/10/2025 23:02

wordler · 08/10/2025 13:15

I suspect it’s Harry who really cared that his kids were not given special treatment to make them ‘equal’ to William’s because it shone through in Spare how jealous he is of his brother.

Think he was treated very differently by the RF, think the Queen mother went out of her way with William but nothing for Harry, think Diana was very hurt on Harry’s behalf he wasn’t treated equally.

Indianrollerbird · 08/10/2025 23:08

Catpuss66 · 08/10/2025 23:02

Think he was treated very differently by the RF, think the Queen mother went out of her way with William but nothing for Harry, think Diana was very hurt on Harry’s behalf he wasn’t treated equally.

Diana treated him differently! Sent him
off to the nursery with the nanny, while she had cosy TV dinners with William. Harry spent much more time with his dad because his mother tried to keep William for herself. All recorded in illuminating detail by their housekeeper in her book.

The Queen Mother reputedly left much more money to Harry than to William. Do you think that was unfair? Why do you think TQM might want to spend more time with the future heir to the throne? Do you think everyone thought he might need schooling in what it means to be a reigning monarch?

Catpuss66 · 08/10/2025 23:27

BananaPeels · 08/10/2025 22:24

They were the children of the monarch. Harry was the grandchild of the monarch. That is a big difference.

Think they were changing the rules when Charles became Monarch, so Harry would have been son of the monarch.
when E2 was Queen he wouldn’t have got title anyway.
think from memory it was in the Oprah interview.

MissKitty0 · 08/10/2025 23:28

She’s been accused of bullying by English AND American staff. And before anyone denies it as if a reputable publication like Vanity Fair US would lie about speaking to staff. Anyone who has deal with a narcissist can see right through her.

Indianrollerbird · 08/10/2025 23:44

vitamindandsun · 08/10/2025 18:52

It is very toxic to tell people who have been abused by their family (your relatives leaking or allowing others to leak to the press about you from a young age is child abuse), racially abused on a daily basis (in the national press in the case of Meghan), told to shut up when they try to get help, let down thousands of times by said family who refuse to change, are brought to the brink of suicide, and who finally speak out about their trauma, which is actually part of the healing process (this does not normally happen in public but when you are in the extraordinarily unusual and odd position of being a royal whose own family are briefing against you on a weekly basis you kind of have to try and answer back in public) to basically shut up.

This toxic emotional shit actually impacts on every day people believe it or not. There is no shame about telling your story when you have been abused and neglected by your own family. Harry's is just a really odd extreme public form of this.

I'm not even a fucking fan of Prince Harry. I just possess empathy, that's all, and am not so bitter and twisted that I spend my time hating someone I don't even know.

If I were them I'd have made ten documentaries. I think they have actually been very restrained and reasonable.

There is zero evidence that the national
press (I assume you mean the UK press) racially abused Meghan on a daily basis. Zero. We have considerable press oversight in this country, not to mention strong libel laws, privacy laws and public interest standards, and all national newspapers have in-house counsel and outside counsel
on tap vetoing stories. I challenge you to provide a shred of evidence of daily racial abuse in the national press. The only article any of you lot are ever able to produce is the “Straight Out Of Compton (Almost)” article, written by an American, about Doris’s place of birth. It was a crass and pointless article, but only racists think there’s some shame attached to coming from Compton, even if you didn’t.

Oprah had to make up news headlines for her Harry & Meghan special, and whilst those lies might be ok under US First Amendment rights, they had to be cut out of the UK broadcast of that interview because they were false, malicious and libellous.

The Netflix documentary couldn’t come up with any evidence of press harassment of Meghan. They used footage of press from a Katie Price court case and a Harry Potter premier and falsely implied those press were harassing Meghan.

Where is your evidence that Meghan was told to shut up when she tried to get help? Meghan was offered Sophie Wessex to show her the ropes as well as Lady Hussey, both of whom she rejected. According to Meghan’s mate, Omid Scobie in Endgame, Meghan rejected the help of the Queen’s equerry, a gentleman of Ghanaian birth, because she and her friends didn’t like the optics of his race.

With regard to her alleged mental health issues during her first pregnancy, there was nothing stopping her getting help. She gave birth at the Portland. Their maternity package includes pre and post natal counselling. Had she told her gynaecologist/midwife she was struggling she’d have received help straight away. Harry writes in Spare that he had his therapist on speed-dial, so why couldn’t her own husband help her to get help? In fact he says in Spare he was too ashamed to ask for help - a 35 year old man, by then a mental health advocate via Heads Together, too hopeless to ask for the help for his wife he had on speed-dial. Meghan said she went to Kensington Palace HR for help. What were they supposed to do? She wasn’t KP staff, she was their employer.

As for Harry, why is he so very keen to get back in with this family who apparently abused him so much? Why did he and his brother and Catherine create the Heads Together mental health project if his mental health needs were being ignored? In an ITV interview on that project, he credits his brother, William, for spotting he needed help. And he got it. On speed-dial, by his own account in Spare. Does that sound like abuse and neglect?

Where is your evidence that Harry’s family was briefing against him on a weekly basis?

Baital · 09/10/2025 04:03

Catpuss66 · 08/10/2025 22:23

Think you will find both Edward & Anne were given the choice for their children to have titles they choose not to. Not sure when this was mentioned Harry was told he would not get a choice, if anything it was badly handled by the royal household unless it was done on purpose. Obviously no one will really know what went on sure lots going on behind the scenes.

Anne had the choice of an Earldom for her husband, which would have made her children Lord/ Lady - the titles Harry's children had from birth.

Edward's children were Prince / Princess if they chose to use them, as grand children of the monarch via the monarch's son, in line with the rules from 1917. Which is why Harry's children became Prince / Princess once Charles became King, and they became grand children of the monarch via the monarch's son.

They have had the same treatment as other family members. Their complaint is that they weren't given special treatment.

smilesy · 09/10/2025 07:36

vitamindandsun · 08/10/2025 21:06

He went to them about racist harassment in the press, and they shrugged and said 'meh' basically. Starting to feel a bit sorry for people who don't have empathy or understand the way the press and palace machinery work to manipulate public opinion.

Ah, the old “lack of empathy” line when faced with facts that don’t fit a narrative 😊

chunkybear · 09/10/2025 07:40

everychildmatters · 08/10/2025 22:53

She comes across as a strong woman who knows her own mind and a lot of people dislike women like that.

She comes across as a liar, a bully and a drama queen, a lot of people dislike anyone like that

BunnyLake · 09/10/2025 08:30

vitamindandsun · 08/10/2025 18:59

Perhaps acquire some better debating skills

I thought @ERthree was very succinct. Why use a hundred words when one appropriate one will do?

BunnyLake · 09/10/2025 08:31

everychildmatters · 08/10/2025 22:53

She comes across as a strong woman who knows her own mind and a lot of people dislike women like that.

Does a strong woman constantly sprawl themselves on the floor or stairs in heaving sobs because they feel slighted?

everychildmatters · 09/10/2025 08:38

@BunnyLake If I'd suffered years of racial abuse then yes, quite possibly.

Mylovelygreendress · 09/10/2025 08:38

And does a strong woman get upset because her future SIL doesn’t take her shopping or reluctant to share a lip gloss ?
( Just writing that makes me realise how pathetic M is)

everychildmatters · 09/10/2025 08:39

@Mylovelygreendress Where is your source for this? Guessing the biased media?

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