Fergie Epstein email

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Yet more damaging revelations for the Yorks. How did the Daily Mail manage to get hold of the email I wonder?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15118055/Fergie-Epstein-lies-exposed-bombshell-email-Andrew.html

Exactly. And how I wish this had more publicity because it was so so so wrong.

William has allegedly told him he is no longer welcome at Xmas.

Same W whose been seen driving around with A riding shotgun at least twice?

Yep. He looked slightly awkward when Charmless was trying to cosy up to him at the funeral but he's not exhibited any particular awkwardness previously.

The RF might finally keep Charmless under wraps (and not before time) but I still think his biggest sin as far as they're concerned is being found out.

It sounds completely in line with the other examples of waste and extravagance detailed in the book.

Ferg is yet another monster abetted and enabled by the royals.

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Need more time to edit 😛

The Mail have now published an Andrew Epstein email.
The King has absolute no choice now but to remove every trace of the Yorks from public life.

The historian AN Wilson is calling this the greatest crisis for the Royal Family since the abdication in 1936.

Here we go

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15183819/Andrew-Epstein-damning-email-Mail-infamous-picture.html

Is this something new, padronpepper?

We've seen the batch released in mid-September, but I can't see anything since then and your post made it sound as if something else had come to light?

Edited to add thanks for the link, @Lalgarh; I honestly thought the "we'll play more soon" (eurgh) message had been mentioned before, but could be wrong

@Puzzledandpissedoff
Yes - just check the reply just above yours
@Lalgarh has posted a link

Just cross posted with you, @padronpepper ...

Can his membership of the Knights of the Garter be removed?

I'm not sure if it's really a constitutional crisis though, is it?

Apparently so; Wiki lists about seven times it's been done, though they were all in WW1 or WW2 and Hirohito from Japan had his reinstated in 1971

Can't see Charles doing it however, and risking Andrew writing a book ...

I do actually think it could become one if the King and Government don't take fast and appropriate action.

I think the difference is that the RF has a very strange take on morals; and adultery is perfectly fine if you don’t get caught! Reading the Lownie book, I am beginning to think this applies to dubious financial practices too.

But if you get caught by a paparazzi photographer having your toes sucked, that is completely unacceptable!

And of course you can’t ignore a big dose of misogyny thrown in to the mix whereby it’s fine if aristocratic men stray but women are judged by a different standard.

Really insightful post. I totally agree.

I agree he doesn't need the grief just now, the blame lies years back when his parents were alive for not getting a handle on it. Allowing Fergie to move back in. So many things pushed down the road to become bigger and bigger issues.

Personally all this has me, a royalist supporter, re-evaluating and wondering if it would not be kinder to them as individuals and a family, to just put an end to it.

It really would be a kindness. Or at least dial it right down so all the monarch is expected to do is entertain and meet with other heads of state.

All the other royals can be happy in obscurity, with no expectations. They can be like all the other dukes and earls and what have you.

Their MO for far too long is do exactly what you want and just hope you don't get found out. And if you do, run around like a headless chicken wondering what to do or stick your head in the sand and hope it goes away.

I honestly do not believe much of what they say, and here we are again proving a liar in Andrew. Given he went to stay for five days in epstein's mansion to break up with him because it was the honourable thing to do, it was obvious he was lying through his teeth and I thought that when I watched the car crash interview. Has he never heard of ghosting?

A far more honorable thing to do given his position would be to just cut contact completely with Epstein and it would be obvious why. Yet him and his tacky x-wife tried their damnedest to keep in touch with a convicted sex trafficker hoping they could fly under the radar.

QE2 and Philip did a huge disservice to Charles handing him this poisoned chalice. They all think they are untouchable. Every single one of them. Why QE2 was totally unable to deal with her awful son I do not know. And why Charles can't take a hard line god knows. So Andrew writes a book, can it really be that much worse than the Lownie book. Words fail me at the revelations in that.

Yes I do think this is a constitutional crisis and far far worse than H&M stropping off and making a living in ways that annoy people.

And I think this because the Epstein files are not going away anytime soon. Because Trump is hugely implicated so bit by bit more will come out and Andrew will be in it.

I must admit I have never thought of the Charles~Diana marriage quite like that before; but it does speak to a certain misogynistic mindset of young girls being “dispensable” or “collateral damage”.

Lord Mountbatten and his malign influence. Though Prince Philip would hardly have been any better as a role model.

Supposedly the reason the queen was so soft on Andrew was because he was her favourite child. The crown on Netflix is meant to go into the alleged background of her relationship with "porchie" before she was born

The marriage between Charles and Diana was arranged by the Queen Mother, and Ruth, Lady Fermoy - Diana’s grandmother.

Umm.. no. Charles asked Diana to marry him. He may have been encouraged to propose by his grandmother, but there was no arranged marriage as such. Diana agreed of her own free will.

I just don’t think the general public care. Those who read Entitled are going to be people who read in the first place, and have an interest in the RF for whatever reason. I think people under 40 care very little and don’t know much about the RF anyway. Protest is driven by the young .

I know two people in their thirties who have done work for the RF. They aren’t interested in reading about them or knowing any more than what they are being paid for the jobs they do on an ad hoc basis. So many people these days aren’t interested in politics or government. They are focusing on survival.

So Andrew writes a book, can it really be that much worse than the Lownie book

I guess that would depend on what he had to tell, @jumpingthehighjump
Lownie's book was about the repulsive Andrew and Sarah, who serve as a useful lightning rod for the rest, but what if anything Andrew had to say was about the rest?