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Trump State Visit

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MrsLeonFarrell · 17/09/2025 13:11

A space for thoughts.

My first is that being at Windsor might make it easier to host a foreign leader. Which then begs the question as to whether in the modern age we really need Buckingham Palace. None of the royals like living there and I bet you'd make a fortune hiring it out for events and tourists.

Whilst i find Catherine's coat dresses a little boring it makes sense to have a sort of uniform.

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MrsLeonFarrell · 21/09/2025 07:38

Baital · 21/09/2025 00:01

That's the way I would interpret it as well. It is all well choreographed, and Camilla just lets Catherine know the carriages - the next phase - are coming so Catherine takes her place for the next bit.

Which is Camilla's role as senior royal woman. The late Queen was often seen directing others where to stand or walk but no one commented negatively on those clips.

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Parry5timesbeforedeath · 21/09/2025 07:46

Agree.

Also, these things tend to be (I assume) run to a tight time schedule. Otherwise every 30 second delay rolls onto all the other 30 second delays and then no-one ever gets to go home for a gin and tonic and the Hollyoaks omnibus edition.

CoffeeCantata · 21/09/2025 08:27

Parry5timesbeforedeath · 21/09/2025 07:46

Agree.

Also, these things tend to be (I assume) run to a tight time schedule. Otherwise every 30 second delay rolls onto all the other 30 second delays and then no-one ever gets to go home for a gin and tonic and the Hollyoaks omnibus edition.

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Exactly!

That’s what the preacher at H&M’s wedding failed to grasp! 7 mins is a very long time in security terms.

padronpepper · 21/09/2025 15:37

So 4 days after Trump leaves, the UK recognises the Palestinian State.
Wonder what he thinks of that news

jeffgoldblum · 21/09/2025 16:43

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.md/2025.09.20-173416/thenightly.com.au/world/royals/meghan-and-harry-reportedly-repulsed-by-royals-fawning-over-donald-trump-during-state-visit-to-uk--c-20071492" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.md/2025.09.20-173416/thenightly.com.au/world/royals/meghan-and-harry-reportedly-repulsed-by-royals-fawning-over-donald-trump-during-state-visit-to-uk--c-20071492

hopefully this is rubbish gossip.

myrtleWilson · 21/09/2025 18:00

padronpepper · 21/09/2025 15:37

So 4 days after Trump leaves, the UK recognises the Palestinian State.
Wonder what he thinks of that news

He's not unaware of that being the plan is he? It was covered in the press conference prior to his departure.

padronpepper · 21/09/2025 18:43

@myrtleWilson
Starmer spoke about Hamas and a 2 state solution saying that Hamas would never agree to it. Trump patted him on the back.
The PM made no mention at that moment of recognising the Palestinian state.
According to the Independent, the UK, Canada and Australia have angered both America and Israel by their announcements today.

myrtleWilson · 21/09/2025 18:54

Here is the transcript - he knew the UK would be making this announcement - KS says they discussed it in the 1-1. Trump says he disagrees with the decision he knew was coming

Thank you both. Chris Mason, BBC News. Mr. President, the UK is expected to recognize a Palestinian state in the coming days as the killing in Gaza continues. It often seems that you're the only person that Israel will listen to. What more can you say to them to tell them to stop? And why is the UKs position on a Palestinian state in your view, wrong?

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00:14:49-00:14:58 (9 sec)
NO STRESSLENS
And Prime Minister, what will the recognition of a Palestinian state actually achieve? Is it not just gesture politics to appease people in your own party? Thank you both.

Keir Starmer
00:14:58-00:15:24 (26 sec)
NO STRESSLENS
Well, Chris, let me just start with that because we discussed this, amongst other things. We had the best part of an hour, I think, upstairs earlier today, just one to one, going through a number of affairs, world affairs, in private. And we absolutely agree on the need for peace and a roadmap because the situation in Gaza is intolerable.

Keir Starmer
00:15:24-00:15:42 (18 sec)
NO STRESSLENS
The hostages have been held for a very, very long time and they must be freed. And we need aid to get into Gaza at speed. And so it's within that context of a plan for peace which we're working hard on, which not only did we discuss this morning, but our two teams have been working together on that. The question of recognition needs to be seen.

Keir Starmer
00:15:42-00:15:59 (17 sec)
NO STRESSLENS
And so it's part of that overall package which hopefully takes us from the appalling situation we're in now to the outcome of a safe and secure Israel, which we do not have, and a viable Palestinian state. Thank you.

Donald Trump
00:15:59-00:16:20 (21 sec)
NO STRESSLENS
Well, simply I want the hostages released now, right now, not one, two, we'll give you three more, tomorrow, and you know, like it's been, but we're the ones that got all the hostages released. We got many, many -- they came, many came to the Oval Office and I've heard stories like I've never thought even possible.

Donald Trump
00:16:20-00:16:42 (22 sec)
NO STRESSLENS
There was no humanity, no anything. I said to them, I said, was there any warmth shown during this stay, like, they offered you a little extra meal, they gave you a little smile and they said don't worry, you'll be OK, and every one of them said, not even a little bit. Amazing to think that during this stay, long stay in some cases.

Donald Trump
00:16:42-00:17:08 (26 sec)
NO STRESSLENS
We had a man the other day, 451 days he was there. I always asked that question and was there any warmth shown, just a little word of encouragement and the answer is every time, absolutely not. I'm shocked to hear it because in the worst cases, there's always somebody that comes through. We have to remember October 7th, one of the worst, most violent days in the history of the world.

Donald Trump
00:17:08-00:17:39 (31 sec)
NO STRESSLENS
Not just there, the history of the world and I got to see the tapes and I wish I didn't see them, actually, but I got to see them. And I want an end. I want the hostages released and I think it's going to be OK. But it has been a brutal period of time, but this has been going on for a long time. This is not something that's over the last year or two years, but this has been for decades and decades.

Donald Trump
00:17:39-00:18:02 (23 sec)
NO STRESSLENS
But we wanted to end. We have to have the hostages back immediately. That's what the people of Israel want. They want them back and we want the fighting to stop and it's going to stop. But a lot of bad things. You know, Hamas said that they're going to put the hostages up as bait. They're going to put the hostages in front of any attack, and that's pretty brutal.

Donald Trump
00:18:02-00:18:15 (13 sec)
NO STRESSLENS
We haven't heard that one in a long time. So we have to remember that. So I have a disagreement with the Prime Minister on that score. OK? One of our few disagreements, actually.

NigelFaragesFakeRoarofLaughter · 21/09/2025 19:41

Yes, it's in no way news to Trump that the UK would be recognising the Palestinian state, and that the date for that would be today.

We all knew: it was announced a long time ago.

That's how Canada and Australia could co-ordinate.

NormaMajors1992coat · 21/09/2025 23:00

jeffgoldblum · 21/09/2025 16:43

I know these two are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier but surely even they are not so dim that they don’t understand that the king has a diplomatic role as head of state, and that he and the other royals undertake these duties at the behest of the government for the benefit of the country. They must understand that. So I guess this is actually more about that moment when Trump praised William in his speech, and said how beautiful the PoW is, while Harry and Meghan were just ignored. And so a little tantrum ensues.

padronpepper · 21/09/2025 23:06

I’d imagine H & M are glad they are not on the same continent as the ghastly Yorks right now.

padronpepper · 21/09/2025 23:07

The state visit is old news by now.

NormaMajors1992coat · 22/09/2025 07:58

padronpepper · 21/09/2025 23:06

I’d imagine H & M are glad they are not on the same continent as the ghastly Yorks right now.

Not sure being on a different continent makes any difference to anything, does it? H+M’s closeness to the York family over the years is pretty well known so they evidently don’t think they’re ghastly. Or didn’t, at least. Maybe they are sending private messages of support to Fergie as we speak, who knows?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 22/09/2025 09:46

I don’t get the impression Harry and Meghan think the Yorks are “ghastly” at all, in fact quite the opposite, which begs the question, why is that?

Letmeoutodhere · 22/09/2025 10:01

Because they are both after the same thing. Money, at whatever cost. Neither have any morals.

padronpepper · 22/09/2025 10:25

The silence from the Palace is deafening really....

NormaMajors1992coat · 22/09/2025 10:51

padronpepper · 22/09/2025 10:25

The silence from the Palace is deafening really....

Likewise deafening silence from Montecito, and perhaps more surprising given that H+M have been so vociferous in their criticism of numerous other members of the family. SIL makes the wrong facial expression when lending a lip gloss - awful! Bedroom in granny’s castle too small - outrageous! Brother too bald - ugh!

And yet not a word about the one accused of being a sex pest 👀👀👀

jumpingthehighjump · 22/09/2025 11:45

Quite right too.

It's up to the KING, Andrew's brother to be making statements, not a nephew.

NormaMajors1992coat · 22/09/2025 12:58

Well you wouldn’t think it was up to Harry to comment on William’s foreskin but it didn’t stop him. He seems strangely reticent about the Yorks compared to many other targets of his criticism and privacy breaching 🤷‍♀️

padronpepper · 22/09/2025 13:07

@NormaMajors1992coat
What do you think of the behaviour of the Yorks?

NormaMajors1992coat · 22/09/2025 13:12

padronpepper · 22/09/2025 13:07

@NormaMajors1992coat
What do you think of the behaviour of the Yorks?

Awful

BigWillyLittleTodger · 22/09/2025 13:17

Harry was quick enough to make a statement to say he didn’t punch his Uncle Andrew over remarks he supposedly made about Meghan and even threatened to sue over it, curiouser and curiouser……

jumpingthehighjump · 22/09/2025 13:18

NormaMajors1992coat · 22/09/2025 12:58

Well you wouldn’t think it was up to Harry to comment on William’s foreskin but it didn’t stop him. He seems strangely reticent about the Yorks compared to many other targets of his criticism and privacy breaching 🤷‍♀️

Who cares on such stupidity and nonsense. I don't
At least he isn't mixing with sex traffickers, paedophiles, middle eastern gun runners and worse
Harry is sensible on not commenting on the royal hot potato that is Andrew

ajandjjmum · 22/09/2025 13:24

jumpingthehighjump · 22/09/2025 13:18

Who cares on such stupidity and nonsense. I don't
At least he isn't mixing with sex traffickers, paedophiles, middle eastern gun runners and worse
Harry is sensible on not commenting on the royal hot potato that is Andrew

You might feel differently if it was your foreskin being introduced for public discussion!

bluegreygreen · 22/09/2025 13:34

BigWillyLittleTodger · 22/09/2025 13:17

Harry was quick enough to make a statement to say he didn’t punch his Uncle Andrew over remarks he supposedly made about Meghan and even threatened to sue over it, curiouser and curiouser……

The interactions between the Sussexes and the Yorks are very interesting.

Meghan was friends with Eugenie before meeting Harry.

Meghan said she didn't know Andrew (said she mistook him for the late Queen's secretary/assistant).

Harry made no comment on Andrew in Spare, despite making plenty of complaints about other family members.

Harry threatened legal action against Andrew Lownie for including in his book that he (Harry) punched Andrew.