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100 emails between Andrew and Epstein disproving dates

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Itcantbetrue · 13/09/2025 23:14

So apparently this will make the mandleson debacle look like chicken feed.

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PrincessSophieFrederike · 17/10/2025 19:16

MrsLeonFarrell · 16/10/2025 21:31

I agree that there needs, as far as is possible for someone who technically hasn't been found guilty of anything, to be sanctions for Andrew. I would like to see him removed from the roll of Garter knights, if that's possible. His title should go as well and he should stay out of public family occasions. I don't think he can legally be removed from his house which is frustrating.

Talking a wider view, I defjnitely think that there needs to be reforms of some aspects of the monarchy, particularly in areas of financial transparency. But at thread moment I still find constitutional monarchy to be a stable system and I'm certainly not going to vote to remove it as at the moment i see that as a leap in the dark.

But more widely let's get rid the droit de seigneur, whether the seigneur is royal, aristocratic, famous or simply rich. The focus is on headlines like Andrew but the rot runs deep.

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Exactly.
We need to get rid of 50s deference. Throughout history we have challenged corrupt monarchs : Richard III, Henry VI, Henry VIII. Even Victoria was widely criticised during her long mourning.

It's NOT un-British to criticise a bad monarch! It's the opposite

PrincessSophieFrederike · 17/10/2025 19:19

jumpingthehighjump · 16/10/2025 08:06

So Virginia Guiffre's book is out and here are some initial extracts from it.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-andrew-virginia-giuffre-book-b2846282.html

Brave woman, if only she were alive now..

At least maybe her book can help with posthumous justice...

MrsLeonFarrell · 17/10/2025 19:28

BBC News - www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgw31y75ywt?app-referrer=push-notification
Prince Andrew gives up royal titles including Duke of York after 'discussion with King' - BBC News

PinkPanther57 · 17/10/2025 19:30

PrincessSophieFrederike · 17/10/2025 19:14

Tbf his parents didn't know about that & surely wouldn't have condoned it.

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No, absolutely not, it was abuse.

ThePoshUns · 17/10/2025 19:31

PrincessSophieFrederike · 17/10/2025 19:07

Mr Lownie I think has more info he wasn't able to get in about Andrew. He says a new edition may be able to include it, I think it concerned foreign countries at least partly.

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Interesting I’m wondering if the trial was halted because of the royal connection?

PinkPanther57 · 17/10/2025 19:32

PrincessSophieFrederike · 17/10/2025 19:13

But that young? Prince Philip's uncle & aunt George & Nada (George was Mountbatten's brither) sent their son to a brothel at 17 to lose his virginity (tbf they were an odd couple who collected pornography).

But Andrew was 11, not 17. He wasn't even a teenager. Had he even started puberty? 😢

Surely the Queen & Prince Philip's didn't think that was OK?

Honestly at this point I doubt nearly everything we were told to believe about the royals.

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I think it was likely seen as all a jolly jape.

jumpingthehighjump · 17/10/2025 19:59

So let me get this right... daughters can still be called Princesses.

Sarah (ex wife of 30 years) can't sell any more books under the title Duchess of York (70 under her belt for that)

And Andrew? He will not 'use' his Duke of York title but he will retain the Dukedom because it can only be removed by an Act of Parliament.

In discussion with The King, and my immediate and wider family, we have concluded the continued accusations about me distract from the work of His Majesty and the Royal Family.
I have decided, as I always have, to put my duty to my family and country first. I stand by my decision five years ago to stand back from public life.
With His Majesty’s agreement, we feel I must now go a step further. I will therefore no longer use my title or the honours which have been conferred upon me.
As I have said previously, I vigorously deny the accusations against me.

Gagaandgag · 17/10/2025 20:04

Petition for parliament to debate this!

PrincessSophieFrederike · 17/10/2025 20:20

Gagaandgag · 17/10/2025 20:04

Petition for parliament to debate this!

Yes!

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