Harry meeting the king just now

[Justanotherdramalama]

I think he's going cap in hand to ask for money. I really hope he's not got the nerve to ask to come back!

I know that I will probably be banned from MN for saying this but Charles has publicly talked about his terrible childhood. After reading Andrew Lownie's book, it is clear that much went wrong with Andrew. Maybe there should have been less emphasis on how everything looked to the public, and more downtime spent with the kids.

Was it really coped with?
The brother who picked up the crown was dead in his mid 50s.
Leaving his 25yo daughter to pick up the top job. With implications for her tiny little children and expectations of long commonwealth tours when air travel wasn't so easy.

In a world where we talk about separation anxiety and we are much more aware of the needs of children to have their 'primary care giver' those little kids must have had different nannies put them in to bed from the nannies who got them up in the morning.

Do you honestly think Charles would hand the crown to William while his children are still in school if he can avoid it?

And likewise William will hang on to it as long as possible to give George time to raise his family.

I know he had a tough time at Gordonston and obviously lots of time being left with nannies.
Was there other things happen too?

Well, the whole Gordonstoun experience would probably have given Charles PTSD.

Lownie claims in Entitled that when Andrew was 11, the father of his friend arranged for Andrew to lose his virginity.

Well I guess the good news is, that the palace reconfirming half in half out wasn’t on the table has put an immediate stop to the mad spinning and leaking Harry and Megan were doing.

a couple of snippy comments from the palace, that it wasn’t an option and they wouldn’t be appearing in public together, but Charles was open to private meetings, saw an illogical annoyed response from Harry on the men in grey suits trying to sabotage the reconciliation, (as saying Charles is open is open to meeting in private but they can’t do half in half out, is sabotaging a reunion, right) and now radio silence.

it just tells everyone how utterly desperate they were to get back in with the royals publicly , not privately, to help them make money in the USA, Harry isn’t interested in reconciliation in private with his father. He’s just trying to use him.

I just can’t imagine how painful this is for Charles.

I wonder if it’s Meredith working overtime and telling H and M what they need to do . The trouble is she is American and most likely really doesn’t understand how the Palace operate .

Good point bluegreygreen.

And there’s a very good reason why the Duchy of Lancaster has a historic chapel on the Strand in London among its properties. The bulk of its assets came from the estate of Blanche of Lancaster who was the only child and heiress of one of England’s wealthiest men when she married one of Edward III’s son, John of Gaunt, in 1359. They lived in the Savoy Palace on the Strand. It was destroyed in the Peasant’s Revolt in 1381 the present chapel was rebuilt on the same site.

Blanche’s inheritance from her father went to her husband after she died aged just 26 and form the basis of the Duchy of Lancaster. As their son Henry Bolingbroke became King Henry IV, the Duchy became Crown possession thereafter.

This 100 per cent. How sad for Charles that his son and DIL see him as a cash cow.

Really interesting background @Serenster, thank you for posting that.

Judging by the inheritance and free child care threads on MN they aren’t alone in being entitled, grabby offspring. Charles may be more relatable than he knows!

No

I am talking about bona vacantia and any/either Duchy. Is there a problem with that?
It will be William in charge of both when the time comes and where the money goes is important. I imagine those living in Lancashire Yorkshire etc would prefer these funds to be channelled locally as opposed to the Savoy Chapel on the Strand, whatever it's history from eight centuries ago.

You very obviously don’t understand the origin or purpose of Duchy funds or how bona vacantia works. Which is fine, many people don’t, but if you’re going to argue with people who do, expect some pushback.

This is a discussion forum and I expect discussion. Nowhere have I said different. I understand how Duchy funds work thanks.

Derail: The Savoy Chapel is mentioned in Brideshead Revisited where Julia and Rex get married.

and I know about Blanche of Lancaster through my reading of Anya Seton’s Katherine.

<shallow>

People who live anywhere else in the country are in exactly the same boat in getting no say in how Bona Vacantia money is distributed - it goes straight to HMT. And if people have strong feelings about how their funds are channelled after their death, they can of course write a will…

Everyone should write a will, of course they should but sometimes circumstances are difficult for certain people and it gets overlooked

Jesus if thats true its horrific and actual child sex abuse. 11 year old boys haven't usually gone through puberty.

Makes you wonder if it played a part in him with his sexual kicks.
While not really defending Andrew I have also wondered if he KNEW the girls were trafficked of if he thought they were there with their own free will.
At the time nobody would really have been aware of we'd call grooming or trafficking

Not if you think it’s a local fund for local people you don’t.

But agree it’s a discussion forum so all views allowed.

If Meredith's still in post at the end of the year I'll be most surprised, Letmeoutofhere. She's not delivered what was wanted, so working on the basis that everything's someone else's fault she could easily be deemed to be part of the RF's "conspiracy", American or not

Well I guess the good news is, that the palace reconfirming half in half out wasn’t on the table has put an immediate stop to the mad spinning and leaking Harry and Megan were doing

Edited to add you're not wrong, @Brightlittlecanary, but given that H&M seem incapable of keeping quiet for long I guess the concern is what comes next.
Those who refer to it as a soap opera aren't wrong either ...

The funds are designated to support local initiatives, why you disagree with that I have no idea. Even the Duchy website says this!

On accession to the throne, His Majesty The King reaffirmed that money from bona vacantia should not benefit the Privy Purse, but should be used primarily to support local communities

But that’s an expression of preference on the part of the King. A good one, but not binding.

You are repeatedly saying I know nothing about bona vacantia funds and when I link from the actual duchy page, it's just a preference
OK!!!

The King reaffirmed that money from bona vacantia should not benefit the Privy Purse, but should be used primarily to support local communities

The sentence says “primarily”. If it said exclusively you might have a point.

My guess is he wasn’t aware and just thought they were glad to be of ‘service’ because he is a Prince. He comes across as gullible and naive in the book. Probably why he’s never accepted he is guilty.