Media vs. Reality: The Royal Meeting No One Cares About

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It makes little difference if he meets his father. His role won’t change, and the monarchy or public won’t be affected, yet the media keeps spinning it as if it matters — even though the public doesn’t care.

Prince Harry 'to meet with King Charles' when he returns to UK for anniversary of Queen Elizabeth II's death - as sources say 'reconciliation is within reach' | Daily Mail Online

Though difficult to be convincing over individual reconciliations with the RF but not applying the same principles to M's father 😆

Will anyone give me an example of where someone has flounced out of a job, gone public with their grievances under the pretence of whistle-blowing - and then, when they can’t get a new job, they have gone back to their old employer and got their job back? Cos I can’t.

Meghan Markle accused individual members of the RF and the institution of the monarchy of racism. Harry actively tried to defend and excuse her. Neither of them have retracted or apologised for that accusation.

Even if all the other petty stuff was swept under the carpet, that one is going to be impossible to ignore.

I can't see half in half out happening, particularly in the light of all the financial shenanigans that are being revealed in the Andrew book. It has never worked for senior working royals and if anything it would be harder to do it now.

Camilla and Sophie show that it is possible to make mistakes and still work your way back to respected working royal status. I don't think the door is completely closed for the future, even if it seems unlikely at the moment.

Going forward I feel that it is more likely that we will see a gradual reproachment in terms of the family. I think the jury is still out about any future official role. Family reconciliation would be a good thing, family divisions and arguments are always really painful.

Didn't Harry actually deny it had happened (in the Tom Bradby interview)?

Indeed he did, his defence was that she hadn’t actually used the word racism (so that’s alright then).

I don't think either M or H want HI/HO. I think H wants to be able to pop over whenever he feels like it, have a quick cuppa with any royal who's around and then do a couple of charitable gigs before going back home to his loving family. It would allow him to be a cheeky chappie on the odd balcony and bolster his standing with the public when it suited him. There's absolutely no way M wants to return (nor would she be welcomed)....but H? Hmm, the prodigal son could wangle an informal 'non-working royal' position but softly, softly would need to be his mantra. His major problem would be William and I'm not sure there's any way back there....🤔

Harry himself has said more than once that he’s happy where he is and won’t be coming back to be a working royal. Meghan has shown no desire to return either. His offer to help out when Charles was first diagnosed was reportedly turned down. His popularity ratings are dire so nothing to offer there. And surely HMG would not be keen to have a proven liar and someone so indiscreet representing the UK. I’m not sure why you think anyone wants this.

And it would be really difficult working with her again, if you knew that the moment she perceived a slight (and we all now know how touchy she is, from Archetypes and WLM) she might be accusing you of a racist attitude.

There is no way a HI HO will be accepted by the majority of the public or royal family. None.

Did Princess Madeline of Sweden live in the US for a few years and just popped over to Sweden for royal engagements.
Her husband didn’t do royal stuff.

Maybe that model could work for Harry.

30 years ago, many people were very clear that no way would Camila ever be accepted as Charles’ wife. Then she’d never be the Queen.

If the Palace can spin such a positive story around Camila (who was so hated when Charles married her it was decided to be best if she didn’t use her Princess of Wales title), they definitely can rehabilitate Harry and “sell” the HI/HO “compromise”.

These days anyone expressing negative opinions about Camila are told it’s all in the past, blended families and second marriages are normal, hints that Diana was a terrible person and this is all one lovely great story about love conquering all.

Harry will be far easier to get the public to forgive than Camila was, apart from anything else, the public are very interested in him.

She didn't do 'royal engagements' in the sense of formally representing the King, but she did sometimes appear at events such as the Nobel Prize ceremony. Nothing stopping Harry doing the same once he stops whining about 'security' and slagging off his family and country in the media.

Also, I wouldn't describe a transatlantic flight as 'popping over'.

Camilla never blabbed to the media , didn’t give interviews etc , she just got on with some charity work and supporting Charles .
And now we have Harry ( who said he was going to keep quiet ) is apparently wanting to reset his relationship with his family and the U.K. . How do we know ? An insider !

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15091447/Prince-Harry-regrets-reset-relationship-Royal-Family-British-people.html

If the Palace can spin such a positive story around Camila (who was so hated when Charles married her it was decided to be best if she didn’t use her Princess of Wales title), they definitely can rehabilitate Harry and “sell” the HI/HO “compromise”.

This comparison keeps getting brought up but it's really an apples and oranges sort of thing.

Firstly, I'd say Camila was kind of a blank slate. The public didn't really know anything about her other than that she was Charles' side piece, and seen as the evil older woman compared to the sainted Diana. As the years passed, and the public slowly saw Camila as a decent enough type who did good work for her charities, while the 'Saint Diana' image faded, Camila became accepted, if never really popular.

By contrast, Harry is very well known and over the past 5 years has gone from being one of the most popular royals to one of the most disliked. It's going to be very hard to reverse that now.

Secondly, Camila just got on with things whereas Harry and his wife are constantly blabbing to the press and can't let anything slide.

Thirdly, Camila is the King's wife and Queen of the United Kingdom. She's one of the most senior royals. Whereas Harry is 5th in line and frankly, not needed.

Just your opinion @IcedPurple let’s see what happens.

Well yeah of course it's just my opinion!

What with this being a public discussion board and all.

What else is anything here, other than random people's opinions?

Hmmm ...

He 'regrets some of his actions' and 'wants to reset'. I wonder if that includes apologising?

Apparently the King 'wants to be a grandfather to his grandchildren so that's an important pull' - but Harry wasn't going to say anything, was he?

Obviously one has to be sceptical of any article from unnamed 'sources' but it definitely seems as though Harry is on some sort of charm offensive with the British public. I think it may be too little too late however.

Also, how does this all work with Meghan in the mix? I’m pretty sure she doesn’t want to come to the UK and I doubt that she would be happy for Harry to bring the children on his own. After all, he apparently asked her “permission” to go to Ukraine (I realise he was probably joking, but I suspect there is a grain of truth in there somewhere)

I know nothing about American Law but surely Harry , as Archie and Lili’s father, would be allowed take his DC on holiday ?

I’m sure he would, but I’m equally sure that he wouldn’t want to do so if their mother was not fully ok with it 🤷‍♀️

Fourthly it didn't happen overnight. It took a couple of decades, during which she didn't clap back and simply carried on in a low key way, turning up without chasing the headlines.

If H&M drop the drama and adopt that timescale I expect they would be accepted.

I can't see it happening, because I don't think they have the patience, but who knows?

Similar to Sophie - focus on turning up and the causes you want to support. Forget about popularity and headlines, they are very fickle.

There's no quick fix, but if you do that over time you will win respect and your earlier mistakes will be forgiven (rightly, we all make mistakes)