William's non attendance to important events

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Since there is a flurry of discussion on another thread its probably best to create a thread for it to take place here and not derail another one.

So William is not attending a number of important events the recent one being the VJ day..lots of you think he should have after all he is the future King and if he can't make time for these things then it begs the question what is the point of them?

So discuss away...what should he turning up to, what is his actual role if he starts to not do these types of things...

Agree with all this, but just want to say that there are many types of chemo these days that don't make you lose your hair. They're no less harsh for that. There is also immunotherapy, which can have bad side effects - including years later - but also doesn't make you lose your hair. I actually wondered if she had ovarian cancer, because the standard chemo for that is a combo which happens not to make you lose your hair.

I don’t know why this thread has become all about Kate. I should imagine people wish her well.
her husband could still have gone to a VJ event. He is not unwell. He has plenty of staff. So doubt taking a few hours away from his family would have been that hard.

They appear to pick and choose their appointments
Wimbledon, football, theatre, yes, please
Significant, yet probably slightly duller, events, will give it a miss, especially if it interferes with our precious holidays
We got young children, don’t ch’ know

I’ve not seen anyone wish her ill?

there’s a difference between wishing someone ill and querying why they can only do events they enjoy.

You are full of misinformation. This is not publicly available information. You have no idea how much help they had then or now.

Well, they can protest. You have that "Not My King" group openly protesting and having their rights to do so defended.

Harry was booed here in the US at the Pat Tillman award ceremony.

Open a dialogue. Visibly protest.

Seem to recall that he didn’t / couldn’t be bothered to attend the women’s final a few years ago: he was on holiday
Yet he has access to private jets, staff, so surely no big deal

Exactly.

@LifeOfAShowGirl out of sheer curiosity, are you a Taylor Swift fan? I'm always intrigued by name choices.

Perhaps people who have the energy to monitor her activities could use their time to do something more useful.

Can you quote somebody saying that they don't deserve compassion? I think the main issue is the faux 'we're just like you' spin when it's blatantly obvious they're not. I think we all have sympathy for the family with Kate's health issues but your average cancer patient isn't able to indefinitely cut down on work (whilst collecting a full salary), have multiple luxury holidays, have multiple nannies and staff on hand for childcare/cleaning/cooking etc. Not to mention the wider issues with NHS waiting lists etc that we know the royal family won't be dealing with. Nobody is saying that she hasn't had a tough time, but she's got resources to deal with it that the average person could only dream of.

The Wales' seem to want to have it both ways - expecting immense wealth and privilege whilst simultaneously wanting to do less. I'm afraid from a PR point of view it doesn't look great to prioritise engagements like Wimbledon (which again for most of the population would be a massive potentially once in a lifetime treat to attend) over the less glamorous ones. They've got goodwill at the moment by virtue of the nation's fondness for the late Queen (and that they can play off the media hysteria regarding Meghan and Harry), but they're both approaching their mid-40s, there's a limit to how long they can play the young couple with a young family card. Support for the monarchy drops sharply amongst the under 30s. With the increasing loss of the social contract (what are the odds of todays teens/young adults being able to afford a house let alone actually have a state pension) the monarchy is going to have to find a way to justify their keep - turning up to the tennis and posting artsy videos on instagram isn't going to cut it.

It's interesting that none of the royalists on this thread have responded to my comment about how surely the fairest thing for the royal family would be a republic - especially those arguing about how difficult their lives are. Let them retire gracefully to live off their estates so George, Charlotte etc can be their own people - be it a doctor/vet/architect/potter/whatever. I just don't understand the insistence that they have such a difficult life that they deserve all the wealth, tiaras, luxury holidays etc whilst wanting to continue to doom their children to a gilded cage.

No, he hid behind the guise of not wanting to fly out to “help the environment”, yet he’s happy to spend time on yacht!

Yes. Is that okay? Don’t bother opening a dialogue about her being a billionaire or all the rest of it - separate the artist from the art.

Maybe William will do that. It began with a William. Maybe it will end with a William.

Apologies that isn’t what I meant. I meant that no one would wish her I’ll.
but that it doesn’t stop her husband working

I'm sorry you didn't get more support but we should be aiming for better support for everyone. I was proud to be head if HR in a company that gave good support and I wish that for everyone, Catherine included.

I give Catherine a pass. If she hadn't gone to Wimbledon I'd give her a medal and that's just because she went to something she would enjoy rather than as a duty. Otherwise I am glad I am not in her shoes and wish her well in her journey.

As for W, well forgive me, but that man does not seem to care what anyone thinks of him. I have rarely heard him speak, and I don't know what he does or what his role is. He is not doing much to promote himself that's for sure.

Seems to me that he is giving two fingers to the rest of us, he will do as little as he wants and there's not a damned thing anyone can do about it, except pay for it all.

So to me, being as charitable as possible, based on the optics and allowing for his wife's illness (in the worst days anyway), he really wants his cake and eat it. That's what I think.

Maybe he should just step down and pass the line of succession over to Harry and Meghan

It wouldn't go to Harry - it would go to William's kids.

Don't think William can resign on their behalf - though know Edward VII did for any future kids don't think he could if they'd already been born into a considered valid marraige.

Harry also currently huegley unpopular in UK and is know to be unhappy with UK and doesn't live here - so frankly think him becoming King would cause huge issues - and if there was really enough opposition parliament could take radcial step of changing succession again - as they have in the past.

Well, it does, because he barely works!

Reading this thread I'm not at all sure people wish her well. There seems a lot of spite about her.

Can't RTFT just now but will be catching up with interest when back from gallivanting 😁

Just wanted to add W has form for missing big occasions in favour of jollies along with being generally lazy. 35 before he stepped up in any meaningful way and dodging duty under pretext ever since.

A bone idle yet entitled heir doesn't bode well.

They don't have any live in nannies. And Catherine's Mum does a lot of childcare just like many Grans.

The ones with the knives out aren't too bothered whether it's actually true - if they've heard it suggested anywhere, and they can use it to bash the Wales family, they're happy to use it. Facts and truth are irrelevant.

On the face of it, not attending VJ Day celebrations doesn't sound great. But before I judged, I did have a look back through what's been done in the past. As far as I can see, Charles never did anything for VJ Day before he was king. I'm happy to be corrected by someone who knows more - I've only done a quick google - but it seems as if Charles did VJ Day in 2020, but the Queen didn't attend (presumably worsening health?). In 2015 he laid a wreath for VJ Day. I couldn't find any occasions when both the Queen and/or Philip attended alongside Charles and I couldn't find anything about Charles doing anything for VJ Day, other than those two occasions. Very happy to be proven wrong.

But IF that is the case, then this is just another example of William and Catherine being judged rather unfairly. They're being held up to a standard which no one cared about before - but apparently is just TERRIBLE now.

They’ve had the same nanny since George was 8 years old.

Having her mother move in alongside a nanny and a night nurse (here ya go, they advertised with Norland for one again with Charlotte https://www.theduchessdiary.com/will-kate-will-hire-maternity-nurse-royal-baby-2/ ) isn’t exactly a good look.

They are human beings and deserve to be treated as such. Just as the person in the local shop, a medic or a person seeking asylum deserves to be treated as a human.

That doesn't make obscene wealth a laziness Ok.