William's non attendance to important events

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Since there is a flurry of discussion on another thread its probably best to create a thread for it to take place here and not derail another one.

So William is not attending a number of important events the recent one being the VJ day..lots of you think he should have after all he is the future King and if he can't make time for these things then it begs the question what is the point of them?

So discuss away...what should he turning up to, what is his actual role if he starts to not do these types of things...

William has done 71 solo engagements this year.

Catherine has done 9 solo engagements this year.

They have done 22 joint engagements this year.

Charles (who is actively undergoing cancer treatment) has done 233 this year.

Camilla has done 57 solo.

They have jointly done 56 this year.

I don't actually care how many engagements he does tbf I don't think this thread is for me there is too much frothing!

I don't know how to 'froth' whatever that is
I do know how to express an opinion though, and as I said in my first post everyone's opinion is allowed to be shown on here. And they will vary

Who do you think was bothered?

As for wanting to chnage if and be smaller fine go do that, let's take back the hundreds of.millions we give them for the sovereign grant

Not even a royalist but its pretty easy to find out where the sovereign grant comes from- rather than taking back you just mean let them keep less of their own money?

But KC still attended hundreds of events annually when he was PC
PW attends very very few events for a senior royal. Extraordinarily few for the heir to the throne.

he attends fewer events than any other senior royal. He is extremely entitled and has no concept that with the phenomenal privilege comes a huge sacrifice. Or it should. But he and his family choose to take all the privileges but not the duty.

He needs to turn up at the job centre…get a job…support his family & stop scrounging from the tax payers.

Who do you think was bothered?

Someone on another thread who works with veteran associations said it went down really badly

I am not remotely interested in the royals generally, but I do think if you have them, they can't take a back seat. William comes across as totally uninterested in his role and I don't see any vision for what he wants as a changed monarchy.

Throughout my childhood Charles always seemed to have his own passion and visions - the environment, infrastructure, architecture, farming, interfaith stuff - he was bonkers but it was rather inspiring and gave people things to think and talk about.

William seems to hate the whole thing. Also he seems to be an atheist which is very cringe for the head of the Church of England.

Perhaps he chooses the sports events because they’re the fun ones he can do together with his children. It’s fair enough.

PW doing fewer events per year is probably intentional. This is what a slimmer monarchy looks like.

It’s going to be gradual. The financial side is entrenched and can’t be changed overnight nor should it - this is the pilot
phase to test out the slimmed down monarchy and family-first approach.

And what I find really quite peculiar, is those who support the monarchy, are royalists, seem to excuse William when it is pretty obvious this was a big misstep, but he is still defended to the hilt. Not by everyone of course.

It's because they are sycophants & William is the golden child 😆

A slimmed down monarchy does not mean the heir to the throne doing less and less. What it means is casting off the wider family which I am all for. But it will mean William and Kate working a lot harder, not doing fewer events!

Which ones? As a veteran who has attended countless events over the years and has a large circle of ex forces friends, volunteers i have never heard any of them complain or be upset about the absence of a royal.

I do understand that they want to spend time with their children.

But if that is the case, leave the monarchy and go it alone. You don’t get to pick and choose which events you do based on the ones that are the most fun. I totally understand that the last year and a half will have been very rough on the children, but ordinary working people don’t get to work very, very part time in order to support their children. 70 engagements when your wife is cancer free and your father with cancer has completed more than triple that is shameful.

Maybe read outside the mumsnet royalist bubble, there is a lot of criticism for him not attending this event

You do realise this is a typical ‘engagement day’

1. driven in chauffeur driven limo to meet some dignitaries
2. walk 10yards to a ‘community centre’
3. pull a bit of string or cut a ribbon
4. shake hands with more poor people
5. back in limo to be driven 200yards to another place
6. meet more dignitaries
7. Put on hard hat & safety goggles
8. pose next to some equipment
9. shake more hands of poor/young/black/old (ok, he never shakes old people’s hands)
10. Etc etc etc
11. there! 10 engagements and it’s not even lunch time,,,,this is actually how they count their ‘engagements!
12. don’t even get me started on the amount of holidays they take…I suppose they need to get away from shaking hands with the poor.
13. #downwiththecrown #notmyking

I genuinely don't really understand what it is the Royals do anymore. Kate realised some video recently but what was that for? William is into the environment but again I don't know exactly what. Granted I don't research these things but there doesn't even seem much press about it.

And mine!

That further reinforces my point to be honest. I’m not commenting on whether I think the engagements are worthwhile, or should even be counted as work. But the fact William has done so few, compared to his father with cancer, is quite remarkable.

Ah yes silly me I was referring to real life outside of the Internet!

I think William has a vision to change the way the royal family works after almost a century, and that is a good thing.

I get it, I would hate the role & lack of privacy. But the fans want visibility surely or how does it work?

A cute fluffy video about slowing down and spending time with family after her recovery. I’m sure so many millions of people with cancer would love to be afforded that luxury!

The Sussex family has not been mentioned on this thread until now, so I’m not sure what they have to do with anything!

If William is determined to do things differently, and it seems that he is, comparing numbers of engagements is pointless. That is the old, 1950s model, a model Charles and Anne are still following. A model that needed many more working royals because it was before mass press and social media and, as the Queen said, needed royals to be seen to be believed.

I don't know if William is moving too quickly for the public mood, it may be that he is. I think it's too early to tell how this will play out long term. I follow the Royal accounts on Instagram and they show far more engagements than are reported on in the press, a lot with Sophie which definitely should get better coverage. But it seems that without press coverage people assume things aren't happening.

The institution is in transition it will be interesting to see where it goes and what happens in the next five years.

The faux naivete is overdone.