Page 19 | William's non attendance to important events

Spectre8 · 2025-08-20T06:33:33+00:00

Since there is a flurry of discussion on another thread its probably best to create a thread for it to take place here and not derail another one. So William is not attending a number of important events the recent one being the VJ day..lots of you think he should have after all he is the future King and if he can't make time for these things then it begs the question what is the point of them? So discuss away...what should he turning up to, what is his actual role if he starts to not do these types of things...

poetryandwine · 20/08/2025 13:37

jeffgoldblum · 20/08/2025 13:00

I’m confused! Are people actually under the misapprehension that the heir to the throne should just work 9to5 in a normal job?
why? , security aside, why? They are rich , they don’t need to work at all and even if the monarchy was abolished they would be rich and not need to work.
people seem very invested in this idea that William and Catherine are lazy !
where does this come from? , we have literally no proof of what they get up to when not in the public eye or if the media doesn’t report on it .
the younger royals use sm unlike the older ones, for all anyone knows he could be working all the time like his father did in the background, or he could be doing nothing.
the whole point is nobody knows .
this whole thread is dripping with delight at sticking the boot in, and as always well timed when Harry is being criticised .

Because W&K report every bloody thing they do, that’s why. They count background meetings with representatives from charities, including their own, members of government, etc, as Events and report them in the Times Court Circular. Other royals don’t even count this stuff.

One assumes they must prepare (with help) short speeches and learn briefing materials before their public events. Because they have so few events, even this is a small burden compared to what other royals do in this area.

What else were you thinking of?

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 13:38

Livelovebehappy · 20/08/2025 13:36

And they’re not performing monkeys. I’m sure his diary is pretty full, and what might be ‘important’ events to you and I, might not be to him. They do do visits under the radar to places where there are no cameras. It would be draining if every single day they were attending events heavily attended by the press. I honestly don’t mind how little William and Kate do, as William is our future monarch. I do mind how little other fringe royals might do if they’re on the payroll, although I recall that has been ended by Charles now, so they have jobs.

They’re paid £30m a year just for existing

Personally, given his grandfather was present during the war, I’d hope he found VJ Day personally important!

EdisinBurgh · 20/08/2025 13:39

Maybe William doesn’t want to be in the royal family very much but he can hardly leave can he? Or pull out his children from
this unnatural gilded cage they’ve been born into?

If he did withdraw it’d destabilise the country massively, at the worst possible time for UK, European and global security. It’d take years or decades to recover from a collapse of our system of government (constitutional monarchy: parliamentary democracy) and the creation of a new one at speed.

Therefore I’m sure authorities in the palace and government alike urge William to stay in, but accept that’ll be on his terms.

We don’t own him or them and we have to just accept it. There are bigger fish to fry right now, and a stable-ish constitution and system of government are more important than how many public appearances the heir makes.

SpidersAreShitheads · 20/08/2025 13:39

ThatAvidViewer · 20/08/2025 13:18

She had surgery for a non-cancerous condition, and the cancer was only discovered afterwards through histology tests. When they operated, it was to fix that initial problem—and who knows if she still struggles with issues from that condition, even after the surgery. It could have been Crohn’s, or something else just as difficult.

On top of that, she’s had chemotherapy, which comes with its own lasting side effects.

She said herself only a couple of weeks ago that she can’t function at home like she used to, and that it’s very difficult.

Nobody knows what type of cancer she had, what stage it was, or what her prognosis looks like.

People should stop being so judgmental. Honestly, people never learn—this thread is just like last year, or maybe it’s the same few stirring things up again.

Absolutely this.

Honestly, it’s just a race to the bottom with comments made purely out of spite.

None of us know exactly what Catherine was diagnosed with, nor the effect treatment had on her psychologically or physically. Or what problems she has that are ongoing.

It would be amazing if every woman was able to take a slow and careful approach to returning to work, especially those in public-facing roles. It’s a shame that many aren’t able to but I don’t think that’s any reason to be spiteful to those who are.

IIRC, Catherine pulled out of Ascot - although there were mixed reports about exactly what happened. I don’t think she’s as brimming with vitality that her nay-sayers want to believe.

I think when their children are older and she’s completed her recovery, that’s the time to judge if her and William are “lazy”. By all accounts they are hands-on, involved parents and I’d rather that they continue with this approach and attend fewer engagements.

I recognise the OP here and some other PP. It’s a bad faith thread in many aspects because many posters here would rather kill their first-born than utter a good word about the Wales family.

I’m not even an ardent royalist. I just hate seeing people unfairly judged and pulled apart due to unwarranted malice or personal hang-ups, which is largely the case here.

Livelovebehappy · 20/08/2025 13:40

poetryandwine · 20/08/2025 13:37

Because W&K report every bloody thing they do, that’s why. They count background meetings with representatives from charities, including their own, members of government, etc, as Events and report them in the Times Court Circular. Other royals don’t even count this stuff.

One assumes they must prepare (with help) short speeches and learn briefing materials before their public events. Because they have so few events, even this is a small burden compared to what other royals do in this area.

What else were you thinking of?

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And why shouldn’t these events be counted as work? In my job, I have meetings with lots of people, many of which I enjoy, but I still get paid for it. Charity meetings won’t all be fun and games depending on what’s on the agenda…

Tutorpuzzle · 20/08/2025 13:41

The thing is @jeffgoldblum , more and more people are fact checking. And coming to the same conclusions. They are simply not worth the very, very large amounts we do know about and the very very large amounts we aren’t allowed to…https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/10/security-costs-uk-royals-cannot-be-made-public-judges-rule

Security costs of UK royals cannot be made public, judges rule

Guardian fails in attempt to find out how much taxpayers’ money is spent on protecting the Windsors

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/10/security-costs-uk-royals-cannot-be-made-public-judges-rule

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/08/2025 13:41

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 13:33

It would be incredibly easy for him and his family to remove themselves from the line of succession.

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I wouldn't say "easy" exactly, but certainly it could be done

Presumably though you realise who'd be next in line for the job if this happened?

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 13:41

SpidersAreShitheads · 20/08/2025 13:39

Absolutely this.

Honestly, it’s just a race to the bottom with comments made purely out of spite.

None of us know exactly what Catherine was diagnosed with, nor the effect treatment had on her psychologically or physically. Or what problems she has that are ongoing.

It would be amazing if every woman was able to take a slow and careful approach to returning to work, especially those in public-facing roles. It’s a shame that many aren’t able to but I don’t think that’s any reason to be spiteful to those who are.

IIRC, Catherine pulled out of Ascot - although there were mixed reports about exactly what happened. I don’t think she’s as brimming with vitality that her nay-sayers want to believe.

I think when their children are older and she’s completed her recovery, that’s the time to judge if her and William are “lazy”. By all accounts they are hands-on, involved parents and I’d rather that they continue with this approach and attend fewer engagements.

I recognise the OP here and some other PP. It’s a bad faith thread in many aspects because many posters here would rather kill their first-born than utter a good word about the Wales family.

I’m not even an ardent royalist. I just hate seeing people unfairly judged and pulled apart due to unwarranted malice or personal hang-ups, which is largely the case here.

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I’ll happily say good things about them - I think Kate’s work around maternal mental health is brilliant, especially given her issues around pregnancy.

however I don’t think the good they do means they can never be criticised.

poetryandwine · 20/08/2025 13:41

@Livelovebehappy Their events are on the Court Circular even if they don’t get wide media coverage. The counts showing them to be at the bottom of the royal league tables, for a long time and well before Kate’s cancer, are from the CC.

Do you have evidence of events not on the CC?

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 13:41

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/08/2025 13:41

I wouldn't say "easy" exactly, but certainly it could be done

Presumably though you realise who'd be next in line for the job if this happened?

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So what? That’s for the family to deal with.

hangerup · 20/08/2025 13:42

They are rich , they don’t need to work at all and even if the monarchy was abolished they would be rich and not need to work. people seem very invested in this idea that William and Catherine are lazy ! where does this come from?

Why are you so invested @jeffgoldblum that people think they are lazy or not? Why are you on a thread defending strangers? Fair enough, you love them. But why would you find it strange others aren't as enamoured with them as you are?

stillavid · 20/08/2025 13:42

Honestly I do wonder why people are trying to compare them to a normal family.

My Dc attend a 'big' school - most families have been away for large chunks of the extremely long summer holidays. It is what rich people do.

I guess I just think of the RF like a version of Downton Abbey - they do a little charity work and have lots of leisure time.

However I would still much rather have my life than there existence and the scrutiny that comes with it. And I do feel very sorry for the children and how their teen experiences are going to be in this age of social media etc.

jeffgoldblum · 20/08/2025 13:42

poetryandwine · 20/08/2025 13:37

Because W&K report every bloody thing they do, that’s why. They count background meetings with representatives from charities, including their own, members of government, etc, as Events and report them in the Times Court Circular. Other royals don’t even count this stuff.

One assumes they must prepare (with help) short speeches and learn briefing materials before their public events. Because they have so few events, even this is a small burden compared to what other royals do in this area.

What else were you thinking of?

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They do not report what they do!
please try to stick to actual facts rather than your own incorrect information.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 13:43

stillavid · 20/08/2025 13:42

Honestly I do wonder why people are trying to compare them to a normal family.

My Dc attend a 'big' school - most families have been away for large chunks of the extremely long summer holidays. It is what rich people do.

I guess I just think of the RF like a version of Downton Abbey - they do a little charity work and have lots of leisure time.

However I would still much rather have my life than there existence and the scrutiny that comes with it. And I do feel very sorry for the children and how their teen experiences are going to be in this age of social media etc.

Sure but many of the people at these schools have at least worked for their wealth. The entire point is William doesn’t like working very much

ladybirdsanchez · 20/08/2025 13:43

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 11:32

Yet every other member of the royal family has managed to bring up a young family and pull their weight. Since he became heir his engagements have paled in comparison to what Charles did as Prince of wales.

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Charles was a loving, but very absent parent who spent very little time with his DC while they were growing up. I suspect that William wants to do things very differently to how he was parented in the 80s and 90s and that's to his credit. There is a balance to be struck though. The vast majority of families have at least one FT working DP and many have two and we all somehow manage to parent our DC to a satisfactory degree, so wouldn't it be great to see the future king also juggling a busy life with kids and a job?

MrsDoubtfire1 · 20/08/2025 13:44

Tiswa · 20/08/2025 13:17

@jeffgoldblum they do need to work. They are high up WORKING royals

No one is working August but Princess Roysl has 26 engagements for September, Duke of Edinburgh 8 Duke of Gloucester 6

so far there is nothing booked in for the rest of the year.

he is Heir to the Throne in a country increasingly making noises about being a Republic, with other countries who do have King Charles as Head of State definitely leaning towards being a full Republic

@MrsDoubtfire1 it is necessary now - he needs to work out whst the face of the Royal Family will be in this much more modern world and so far he is failing

@Tiswa. Who says he is failing? He is human. He is a lot better than someone else we could have. His wife has just been ill. His father is ill. Your expectations are beyond human reason.! The current Royal family are doing a jolly good job now and one can only work on the here and now. We don't have Crystal Balls!!! Or, perhaps you can tell the future?!

Tiswa · 20/08/2025 13:44

To where though? Harry? He has hardly shown himself to be mentally able to cope with the role! And if he opted out it’s Andrew.

The ones who are working hard (Princess Royal and the Edinburghs) do it as duty but neither want it for their children. Princess Anne made that very clear years ago

so it is his family or none - and that is why he has a decision to make and work out exactly what he wants. He can’t cherry pick the elements he likes and leave behind those he doesnt

@Livelovebehappy no the diary isn’t full with engagements at all

William and Kate could make a great King and Queen if that is what they want but they could also bring down the entire institution of they don’t play it right

poetryandwine · 20/08/2025 13:44

Livelovebehappy · 20/08/2025 13:40

And why shouldn’t these events be counted as work? In my job, I have meetings with lots of people, many of which I enjoy, but I still get paid for it. Charity meetings won’t all be fun and games depending on what’s on the agenda…

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These do count as work for the Wales family. Who, including these things, are at the bottom of the royal league tables. If others counted them the results would look even worse.

2dogsandabudgie · 20/08/2025 13:44

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 13:05

We know that she was undergoing surgery after a history symptoms and cancerous cells were found. She went through a course of chemotherapy and was cancer free.

Like I said, I don’t deny that I’m speculating. But based on that information I have my suspicions.

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And from that little information you're quite happy to speculate which type of cancer she had treatment for. Jesus! You're not one of the people who speculated last year on whether she'd died, had a face lift or was getting divorced are you?

jeffgoldblum · 20/08/2025 13:45

Tutorpuzzle · 20/08/2025 13:41

The thing is @jeffgoldblum , more and more people are fact checking. And coming to the same conclusions. They are simply not worth the very, very large amounts we do know about and the very very large amounts we aren’t allowed to…https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/10/security-costs-uk-royals-cannot-be-made-public-judges-rule

You think their security is a waste of money?
can you imagine the fallout if they were all killed?

Livelovebehappy · 20/08/2025 13:45

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 13:38

They’re paid £30m a year just for existing

Personally, given his grandfather was present during the war, I’d hope he found VJ Day personally important!

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A president would cost us a hell of a lot more. Some people visit London from other countries for the sole reason of the Royal Family, so at least we get tourism on the back of them. I can’t see anyone coming from abroad to visit a building, or catch a glimpse of them, containing the likes of Trump or Starmer. VJ I do think he should have attended, especially due to the huge efforts currently happening to get back the community feeling and pride at being British.

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 13:46

Tiswa · 20/08/2025 13:44

To where though? Harry? He has hardly shown himself to be mentally able to cope with the role! And if he opted out it’s Andrew.

The ones who are working hard (Princess Royal and the Edinburghs) do it as duty but neither want it for their children. Princess Anne made that very clear years ago

so it is his family or none - and that is why he has a decision to make and work out exactly what he wants. He can’t cherry pick the elements he likes and leave behind those he doesnt

@Livelovebehappy no the diary isn’t full with engagements at all

William and Kate could make a great King and Queen if that is what they want but they could also bring down the entire institution of they don’t play it right

and why is “none” such a bad option?

if William were to step down it’s for the rest of them to deal with. The idea of it causing a crisis is laughable. It’s not the 1400s.

jeffgoldblum · 20/08/2025 13:46

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/08/2025 13:41

I wouldn't say "easy" exactly, but certainly it could be done

Presumably though you realise who'd be next in line for the job if this happened?

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Oh I would say the answer was “yes” .

LifeOfAShowGirl · 20/08/2025 13:47

Livelovebehappy · 20/08/2025 13:45

A president would cost us a hell of a lot more. Some people visit London from other countries for the sole reason of the Royal Family, so at least we get tourism on the back of them. I can’t see anyone coming from abroad to visit a building, or catch a glimpse of them, containing the likes of Trump or Starmer. VJ I do think he should have attended, especially due to the huge efforts currently happening to get back the community feeling and pride at being British.

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Plenty of people visit the French ex-monarchical sites. We don’t have to replace them. They don’t step in when they should (Boris Johnson suspending parliament unlawfully springs to mind), they don’t work much, what’s the point?

poetryandwine · 20/08/2025 13:47

PS obviously some charity meetings count for everyone. PAis patron of Save the Children for example and I am sure attending major business functions counts, or ought to.

But if someone comes to her house to brief her, saving her the trouble of slogging through briefing binders? I hear that type of thing is an official Wales Event. Only.