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The royal family

Is As ever all over? Starting to feel like it.

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AtIusvue · 06/08/2025 10:13

It’s been 14 hours since the launch of the 2024 Rose. Nothing has sold out. This is despite it being designed again as a scarcity drop, so it can’t be argued she’s finally got her stock levels right.

  • As ever stated the wine launch going ‘live’ at on the 5th August. Language designed to get you to rush and buy. Just like all this SM shopping you get now.
  • Meghan put out a message many hours ago, stating that they have so much more stock (sad clapback to stuff not shifting) but hurry and be quick because it’s selling fast!!! (It’s clearly not)
  • This launch however, has attracted very little press compared to previous drops

The scarcity gimmick is already tired and because she’s been absent from SM for 2 months…save for a few stock images/videos- she’s lost any momentum she had. She’s putting in bare minimum and her customer base feel it. She’s checked out.

There’s been talk of another series of WLM 3 and Meg getting a new NF contract, but I think that is just to fill the void until she can get WLM2 out. At which point, we will find out if there is any truth in any further deals.

The reason why I doubt WLM3, is that for continuity, you would need the same venue. But the home is now being used to to host weddings etc, it’s no longer a private rental but one open to the public to rent. There’s no way Meg would film in that location now. In addition she would need to have gotten the go ahead already for WLM3 and be filming right now to be able to stick to a schedule. The fact that it isn’t already confirmed, it’s giving the signal that WLM is over (in addition to knowing NF deal is done)

Now if WLM is over, I don’t think she has the draw to pull people to As ever. She doesn’t engage with her fan base enough, she does the bare minimum of SM posts, which she hasn’t even achieved the last few months. The Shopmy page is dead too. This is why the new wine launch has barely registered and hasn’t sold out 14 hours later. Yes, there will be more stock but it’s been designed for a sell out so there won’t be huge numbers.

As ever I think will be slowly wound down. There will be WLM2, with maybe another 18 months of drops. Then like everything else, it will be dropped quietly. Everyone is starting to get a bit bored by the half hearted, very beige effort she’s put into her ‘business’ and have tuned out.

She will have to launch yet another version of herself very soon. We’ve had actress, feminist, activist, producer, philanthropist….now female founder. God knows what’s next!

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smilesy · 13/08/2025 16:09

Ploachedplorridge · 13/08/2025 15:56

I really try and remain polite. But it’s hard when others are very condescending or pompous, or continually addressing your name changes or right to be posting in the first place, or whether your beliefs are genuine or not.

You don’t believe that I in part support Harry because he is a disruptor and an underdog, while choosing to ignore the rest of my (nuanced) explanation. That’s fine.

But it is an example of what I mentioned earlier in that it’s quite rude to question someone’s genuine beliefs and you’ve ignored my more nuanced points about the power imbalance.

Why can’t we all just stick to debating the content of the posts? It would be a lot easier!

I have not been condescending or pompous and I’m not personally addressing you anyway. It is just that this often happens. Posters claim to be republicans and dislike the whole royal family except for the Sussexes. Which to me suggests they are in fact not republicans but use it as a reason to be in favour of the Sussexes. If we had a viable republic tomorrow and the population was infavour of it then so be it. But the Sussexes would be sorely disappointed.

As for your points about power imbalance and the Sussexes being disruptors or underdogs, this is nonsense. They wanted to stay part of the RF and would rejoin tomorrow if asked. The RF have largely ignored them so I don’t see how that means they have power over them. And they have not resorted to the sort of personal attacks that the Sussexes have meted out to them 🤷‍♀️

typos

Profhilodisaster · 13/08/2025 16:13

MavisandHetty · 13/08/2025 16:09

Chrissy Teigen?? To PROMOTE As Ever and herself on her infomercial WLM??

The woman was putting things on Twitter that Rose West would have uttered about teenaged girls.

WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with Meghan Markle?? It was only yesterday she was trying to kid everyone that she was a strong, principled mother of two young children whose greatest concern was protecting children from harm online. Where the fuck is Harry in all this?

What is WRONG with these two? They've actively given a platform to Chrissy BLOODY Teigen!!

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I know, the hypocrisy is off the scale.

jeffgoldblum · 13/08/2025 16:16

MavisandHetty · 13/08/2025 16:09

Chrissy Teigen?? To PROMOTE As Ever and herself on her infomercial WLM??

The woman was putting things on Twitter that Rose West would have uttered about teenaged girls.

WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with Meghan Markle?? It was only yesterday she was trying to kid everyone that she was a strong, principled mother of two young children whose greatest concern was protecting children from harm online. Where the fuck is Harry in all this?

What is WRONG with these two? They've actively given a platform to Chrissy BLOODY Teigen!!

Edited

Yes thanks for mentioning this again , we have all gotten sidetracked!
it is very shocking that a couple who are apparently championing online safety for children against bullying, would then give a platform to a person like this!

SuziQuinto · 13/08/2025 16:16

Oh my god, I cannot believe it! Chrissy Teigen. Unbelievable hypocrisy.

MavisandHetty · 13/08/2025 16:22

I'm still open-mouthed. It's like doing a promo tour for a new rape-counselling hotline, then hosting a cooking show with Harvey fucking Weinstein as a star guest.

We know the celebrity world has a nasty, sordid side to it, but brazenly bringing it out into the open like this (not dragged and kicking a la #MeToo) like nothing ever happened or was ever tweeted, is next level. And people will suck it up, because they always do.

All those "what about Andrew though?" posters: here you go. Same shit. Not apologizing for child sex abuse. HOSTING child sex abuse on a glossy lifestyle show. LIFESTYLE show. Happy now?

jeffgoldblum · 13/08/2025 16:27

Indeed it’s another one example of hypocritical behaviour! Just like making racism accusations then publicly denying it , championing Susan hussy , then publicity attacking and setting your followers onto a black woman 😡

BigWillyLittleTodger · 13/08/2025 16:28

And Meghan is never pulled up for it apart from online, the MSM? Nothing to see here and yet it’s the Palace who control the press apparently…..

SuziQuinto · 13/08/2025 16:31

BigWillyLittleTodger · 13/08/2025 16:28

And Meghan is never pulled up for it apart from online, the MSM? Nothing to see here and yet it’s the Palace who control the press apparently…..

Oh yes!😂😂😂

MavisandHetty · 13/08/2025 16:31

The hypocrisy is the least of it. I mean it's there but it pales into insignificance of what she's actually doing.

Have you seen the tweets? The woman should have been prosecuted and jailed. It's heinous.

And MM is HOSTING this woman on her show.

Imagine if it were your friend who threw a dinner party and invited you and a bunch of other people over - as well as someone you all know tweeted the things Chrissy Teigen tweeted. You'd be horrified that she was not only wanting to be around that person, but that she wanted to have them in her home, host them, throw a dinner party with them AND have you over as though nothing ever happened! You'd rightly ask yourself whether your friend is trying to tell you something about why they're ok with all that.

ETA before anyone accuses me of anything, I'm not suggesting that MM has similar urges or predilections as Chrissy Teigen and that's why she's "whitewashing" her by hosting her on her Netflix show. I'm suggesting that this has to be a measure of how lost MM is to her ego and her greed and her desperation to go there.

wordler · 13/08/2025 16:38

Ploachedplorridge · 13/08/2025 15:35

https://feminegra.com/the-truth-about-jason-knauf-and-meghan-markles-bullying-allegations/

Many people believe a different narrative. I don’t know enough about the detail to know precisely which bits are true and which are not but I have noticed the odd “circumstances” of timing! And the fact that JK apparently raised the bullying allegations without the knowledge or support of the staff involved.

Of course JK didn’t have a job at Earthshott then! That came later as a reward for loyalty.

And didn’t Meghan win her case against the tabloid about the letter? And wasn’t the appeal upheld too? Even though Jason Knauf testified against her? The judge obviously disagreed with his perspective.

That article is by an author who only writes articles supporting Meghan and Harry and the Sussex Squad - all completely biased pieces criticizing anyone who confronts H&M, or wildly praising any of Meghan’s initiatives.

Serenster · 13/08/2025 17:14

Ploachedplorridge · 13/08/2025 15:35

https://feminegra.com/the-truth-about-jason-knauf-and-meghan-markles-bullying-allegations/

Many people believe a different narrative. I don’t know enough about the detail to know precisely which bits are true and which are not but I have noticed the odd “circumstances” of timing! And the fact that JK apparently raised the bullying allegations without the knowledge or support of the staff involved.

Of course JK didn’t have a job at Earthshott then! That came later as a reward for loyalty.

And didn’t Meghan win her case against the tabloid about the letter? And wasn’t the appeal upheld too? Even though Jason Knauf testified against her? The judge obviously disagreed with his perspective.

“Many people believe a different narrative” doesn’t mean that narrative is remotely factual, you know!

JK didn’t need the knowledge or support of the employees involved to raise the bullying allegations. No-one does. If you witness poor workplace behaviour, you (me, anyone) is entitled to make a complaint and have it dealt with appropriately. So that’s not a point that takes you anywhere.

And Meghan won her lawsuit on other grounds (her copyright claim was upheld - essentially the Mail had breached her copyright in her letter to her father by printing extensive extracts from it) so there was no need to deal with the other claims made in the proceedings. JK’s evidence was relevant to those other claims, so it was not a factor in the decision on copyright.

In any event, the judge criticised Meghan for misleading the court in his judgment, and Meghan apologised for her evidence - so both she and the court accepted that what JK had said was true.

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 13/08/2025 17:28

WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with Meghan Markle??

Now there's a thread that could run and run.

Weepixie · 13/08/2025 17:50

@MavisandHetty @SuziQuinto

About your last few posts. I just want to say I feel your pain and disgust regarding what CT did, and on top of that we now have her and MM pairing up on Netflix. I’m insulted that the person or people who decided the pairing was a good idea/perfectly acceptable thought millions of ordinary people would think just like them. How bloody dare they - I’m nothing like them and neither is anyone I know.

I honestly don’t know in what world people like them exist and truth be told I’m still so shaken up by what was said in the book about Andrew, I’ve spent quite a bit of time trying to find out how it can be reported to authorities as a possible historical crime against a child. One that was used as a source of entertainment and gossip for the masses in order to sell a book.

It’s been like living in a parallel universe here recently, what with all the horrible things that come into your life when all you’ve done is pick up your phone in the morning.

Anyway, thank you for going your dinger in your posts - they were the perfect example of a very real reaction to absolutely sickening goings on.

SuziQuinto · 13/08/2025 17:56

@Weepixie , your points are spot on, and I was thinking the same.

Ploachedplorridge · 13/08/2025 18:22

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 13/08/2025 18:23

Snobb · 13/08/2025 14:35

No BP or JK did not 'leak' any bullying allegations ahead of the OW interview.

JK emailed allegations of bullying by MM in 2018 to BP.

BP issued a press release in 2021 that they had employed an external legal firm to investigate said allegations and then another in 2022 to say that this had concluded but the results would remain confidential.

MM has a persistent and consistent record of bullying, belitting and harassing staff in the work place before, during and after her time in BP - and on both sides of the Atlantic.

Interviews with multiple witnesses and multiple victims have been recorded in numerous, credible publications which would have ensured that their facts were legally robust and evidenced based to avoid repercussions from this highly litigious couple.

Note that H&M have never once legally challenged any one of the reports - why would they sit back and allow such defamation?

Reports have said that she has bullied workers from their livilhoods and caused significant emotional injury that some needed to access professional medical intervention to recover.

To date, officially in the public domain we have:

The director of The Reitmans ad campaign who posted on SM in 2016 (pre MM meeting PH) that she was the meanest person he has ever had to work with. This was also covered by Newsweek in 2022.

Reports in The Times about MM behaviour on tour and within BP (2021).

Chapters outlining the abuse meted out in BP by MM in Valentine Low's book Courtiers (2022).

Report by The Hollywood Reporter about her impact on staff in US (2024)

Report by Access Hollywood about MM treatment of staff in US (2024)

Report by Vanity Fair about MM behaviours towards staff in US (2025)

All of these witnessed and victims would have NDAs and their careers would have been under threat to have spoken out.

There is a pattern of behaviour here to see excatly whats going on.

I struggle to understand how you can choose to negate and dismiss the experiences of dozens of standard working people, across many time periods, geographies and professional settings, who were either witnesses to or victims of, her appalling behaviour. Do you assume they all got together over this 10 years span to make it all up? Whats your explanation?

Apologies for posting this again but I think it’s warranted, thank you for laying out bare @Snobb the timeline of Meghan’s bullying on both sides of the Atlantic, I can’t believe that @Ploachedplorridge has completely brushed over your very factual and informative post in tandem with some random article from a completely unreliable source that suits their personal agenda.

jeffgoldblum · 13/08/2025 18:27

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Why exactly would I apologise for criticism of your post?
you haven’t been proven correct, you posted exactly what I criticised you for !
I also looked at his tweets and didn’t find them to be racist or particularly shocking, unless it’s a crime to announce you support the tories and dislike labour!
and criticism of Islam and sharia law councils are not racism.

edit to add!
you can cut the emotional blackmail too!
many of dh friends didn’t come home , some were blown up next to him ( sorry for tmi ) , yes I had to comfort quite a few wives who were distraught.

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MavisandHetty · 13/08/2025 18:36

@WeepixieThey get away with it, because they can. Trump, Epstein, Andrew, Chrissy Teigen - and Charles with his carrier bags of cash, Harry with his Nazi uniform and bullying. It’s partly why we plebs feel so simultaneously repulsed and attracted, as normal citizens who are held to account in a way that the rich and/or powerful aren’t. They get to rise above the little people, they have elevated lifestyles including the ability to throw caution and self-discipline (hard work, that) and circumspection to the wind and get away with all sorts while laughing about it. They can do that because there are people to protect them. Who? People who make money off of them. For as long as they’re making people rich, they can be outrageous and laugh as their own outrageousness. And that laughing becomes a thing: how outrageous you can be is directly proportionate to how much you can get away with which is a direct consequence of how much people will protect you which is equal to how much money you make them. From corruption to white collar crime to bribery and corruption…to grifting and getting money for nothing…to child trafficking to rape and child sex abuse…and worse when you look at the news today. The lack of accountability is the signaler of status and power. For the women, their prettiness makes it harder for many people to actually believe that the awful things are true, so they get away with more before doubts creep in. People literally can’t believe that someone so good looking would do such things. It’s why they all look the same, identikit disguises which are proven to work in protecting them from scrutiny (same for all the MAGA women). You’ll find that the women who don’t follow the look are the ones with nothing to hide (and of course not all gorgeous women have something to hide - but the ones who do need the mask).

Snobb · 13/08/2025 18:36

Spectre8 · 13/08/2025 15:35

And then there is Andrew being protected by the institution and rf members....

Including H&M - are they not capable of using their words?

SuziQuinto · 13/08/2025 18:45

Snobb · 13/08/2025 18:36

Including H&M - are they not capable of using their words?

Yes, they criticise the RF in so many ways, ans over such petty issues, yet with Andrew.... tumbleweed.
Nothing.

TheAutumnCrow · 13/08/2025 18:49

SuziQuinto · 13/08/2025 18:45

Yes, they criticise the RF in so many ways, ans over such petty issues, yet with Andrew.... tumbleweed.
Nothing.

This absolutely fascinates me.

It’s such a yawning gap in every account and opinion they have ever given of the royal family.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 13/08/2025 18:50

I just can’t get over those vile tweets, Meghan is friends and promotes a woman who post things like that about little children, utterly sickening, if she says things like that publicly with no qualms what does she say in private? I won’t post the hashtag in relation to her name but I’m sure you can imagine.

SuziQuinto · 13/08/2025 18:51

TheAutumnCrow · 13/08/2025 18:49

This absolutely fascinates me.

It’s such a yawning gap in every account and opinion they have ever given of the royal family.

They ripped into Kate over not sharing lip balm, for God's sake! Why no criticism of Andrew?

jeffgoldblum · 13/08/2025 18:52

TheAutumnCrow · 13/08/2025 18:49

This absolutely fascinates me.

It’s such a yawning gap in every account and opinion they have ever given of the royal family.

We’ve all pointed out so many times over the years, no criticism of Andrew from the Sussex’s ever! , very odd when an extra sausage and lipgloss is worthy of a mention!

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