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The Yorks 2 !

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jeffgoldblum · 05/08/2025 20:49

Sorry missed end of thread !
had a slight hiccup.
anyway thread 2 ready for tomorrows new article. 😁

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IAmATorturedPoet · 08/08/2025 23:32

vera99 · 08/08/2025 22:55

JAN MOIR: Andrew is utterly irredeemable but Fergie is so much worse. Her late-night emails to me say it all--

https://archive.ph/uBYUR#selection-525.0-525.108

Of course, Andrew is appalling and utterly irredeemable – but at least he never pretended to be anything other than what he is; an entitled oik in ancestral ermine.

In many ways, Fergie is so much worse. Always so pious! Always banging on about her charitable deeds, the privations of being a single mother and how hard she has worked to settle her debts – except we now learn it was the late Queen Elizabeth who quietly paid off much of them.

And the D of Y was always praising her dull, princessy daughters to the skies, as if they were a combination of Cinderella and Little Orphan Annie; a dynamic pair of go-getters who had risen above the ashes and adversity of their circumstances to triumph on their own merits in an uncaring world.

Whereas the reality is that Beatrice and Eugenie were raised on a buffering cushion of shady money and dodgy diamonds, and remain a pair of toothy poshos who have achieved absolutely nothing in life, except an ability to keep out of trouble – a trait their parents must now envy.

Is it wrong to suggest that now the fig leaf of her lady bountiful act has been blown away in this torrent of revelations, Fergie is finally and unflinchingly exposed as a raging, entitled madam with a taste for fine wines, ski chalets, designer clothes and with a retinue of obliging staff she could never afford? And all this while encouraging the public to donate to the charities and good causes she propounds?
And she is still at it.

Jan is never one to miss an opportunity to stick the knife in where SF and her daughters are concerned, they have had a spat going on for years.

CurlewKate · 08/08/2025 23:39

Kellywiththelegs · 08/08/2025 21:21

What do you expect them to be doing? reciting Shakespeare to each other? Honestly! 🙄 if indeed you really do wonder what William and Kate do with their evenings I think it’s maybe you who needs to get out more.

What I meant was- I wonder what TV they watch, what books they read, what hobbies they have. We never hear anything about their personal interests. TLQ had a lifelong love of racing, the King paints and I seem to remember from somewhere used to play the cello. And the Queen has talked about reading. But that’s it.

EachandEveryone · 08/08/2025 23:41

Do they watch Below Deck and White Lotus.

BemusedAmerican · 08/08/2025 23:50

Camilla reads a lot and has a successful virtual book club.
Charles selected the music for H & M's wedding since they were clueless about music.
Catherine organizes those Christmas concerts.
Both Catherine and William cook with the kids.
Louis is learning the drums.
Catherine keeps bees and makes jams and chutney.
Catherine has curated several shows. She is a photographer and drew Pippa's wedding invitation.

BemusedAmerican · 08/08/2025 23:56

I also read once that one of the senior royals was allegedly a fan of "The Windsors". I've always thought it was probably William since he comes across as very well- meaning if a bit dim.

Typos.

Kellywiththelegs · 09/08/2025 00:05

CurlewKate · 08/08/2025 23:39

What I meant was- I wonder what TV they watch, what books they read, what hobbies they have. We never hear anything about their personal interests. TLQ had a lifelong love of racing, the King paints and I seem to remember from somewhere used to play the cello. And the Queen has talked about reading. But that’s it.

Well it’s not really that hard to imagine what they do with their evenings. they probably do what most normal people do, spend some time with the kids, walk the dog, go for a run or cycle, watch a bit of tv, catch up on the football, listen to music, I mean the list is endless. What do you mean we never hear about their personal interests? Off the top of my head Catherine enjoys sports, particularly tennis, she enjoys gardening, photography and the piano, they both shoot (unfortunately) William cycles and is a big Villa fan, not sure how much more we need to know, we know plenty, it’s all out there.

jamnpancakes · 09/08/2025 00:07

CurlewKate · 08/08/2025 23:39

What I meant was- I wonder what TV they watch, what books they read, what hobbies they have. We never hear anything about their personal interests. TLQ had a lifelong love of racing, the King paints and I seem to remember from somewhere used to play the cello. And the Queen has talked about reading. But that’s it.

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jamnpancakes · 09/08/2025 00:09

IAmATorturedPoet · 08/08/2025 22:25

Which Graham Smith? 😉

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Yup we've been here before 🙄

CurlewKate · 09/08/2025 00:49

Kellywiththelegs · 09/08/2025 00:05

Well it’s not really that hard to imagine what they do with their evenings. they probably do what most normal people do, spend some time with the kids, walk the dog, go for a run or cycle, watch a bit of tv, catch up on the football, listen to music, I mean the list is endless. What do you mean we never hear about their personal interests? Off the top of my head Catherine enjoys sports, particularly tennis, she enjoys gardening, photography and the piano, they both shoot (unfortunately) William cycles and is a big Villa fan, not sure how much more we need to know, we know plenty, it’s all out there.

Yes of course that’s what they do. But what do they like to watch? Favorite writer? Favorite singer? Airfix models? Fantasy Football? I don’t understand why people aren’t interested! But I do wonder about everyone’s hobbies- including people on here…

IAmATorturedPoet · 09/08/2025 01:41

CurlewKate · 09/08/2025 00:49

Yes of course that’s what they do. But what do they like to watch? Favorite writer? Favorite singer? Airfix models? Fantasy Football? I don’t understand why people aren’t interested! But I do wonder about everyone’s hobbies- including people on here…

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Kellywiththelegs · 09/08/2025 01:53

@CurlewKate Well apparently they were big Suit fans so there’s that 🤷🏻‍♀️William has said he likes Coldplay and Linkin Park, Catherine is a big Strictly fan, not sure how much more information you want them to reveal? I’m surprised you are so fascinated with the minutiae of their viewing habits I would have thought a republican would have no interest in such frivolities!

mathanxiety · 09/08/2025 02:53

jumpingthehighjump · 08/08/2025 20:31

Of course you do!

If you think the Monarchy is answerable to anyone, I am seriously wondering if you live in the UK

Please do tell me about limits to the Monarchy. I'm interested.
In my lifetime, and I'm old, never seen it.

You need to look up the events of 1688.

LidlAmaretto · 09/08/2025 07:10

OlympicWomen · 08/08/2025 20:37

"influential" is not the same as "omnipotent".

I didn't say they were omnipotent. It is almost worse ( in fact it is worse) that we have a democracy where Parliament who's job is to represent the people will fall over itself to pander to be the unelected Monarch and protect them when they abuse their powers. They have a choice and will choose to protect the Monarchy. For what? For knighthoods? It seems the Barons and roundheads had more backbone than we do!

OlympicWomen · 09/08/2025 07:18

LidlAmaretto · 09/08/2025 07:10

I didn't say they were omnipotent. It is almost worse ( in fact it is worse) that we have a democracy where Parliament who's job is to represent the people will fall over itself to pander to be the unelected Monarch and protect them when they abuse their powers. They have a choice and will choose to protect the Monarchy. For what? For knighthoods? It seems the Barons and roundheads had more backbone than we do!

I know you didn't say the monarch was omnipotent. Of course, that's nonsense. Perhaps I wasn't clear, I was taking your valid point to illustrate that the monarch has significant influence.
I was using your point to challenge the misuse of the word "omnipotent" by others. Sorry if that was not clear..

vera99 · 09/08/2025 07:19

At least the monarchs in history had to fight sometimes literally risk their lives to get to the top of the heap. They ruled through ruthless violence and an iron fist, always watching for betrayal from close relatives or blood brothers who might steal their crown. That kind of danger made for great Shakespeare and gripping movies. I’m sorry, but we plebs love the gossip, maybe because we no longer get the full Hollywood-on-horseback drama.

Though The Crown has made a good job of making a good drama out of the current crop.If only Cromwell hadn’t been a tyrant, we could have got rid of them all once and for all try the Yorks at the bar of the House, and thence take them to a place of execution, so help them God.

vera99 · 09/08/2025 07:20

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The Yorks 2 !
vera99 · 09/08/2025 07:37

mathanxiety · 09/08/2025 02:53

You need to look up the events of 1688.

In Northern Ireland the Loyalists talk of little else - paramilitary monarchists !!

The Yorks 2 !
jumpingthehighjump · 09/08/2025 07:40

Back to the Yorks... apparently the daughters are 'utterly mortified' and are keeping their distance from their Dad. Don't believe it. Of course they won't be photographed with him but no doubt they are just as close as they always have been with Ma and Pa.

As for Sarah, her IG post 2 days ago shows her wearing a pair of loafers with the words 'never complain, never explain' embroidered on them.
Tacky and embarrassing!!

CurlewKate · 09/08/2025 07:44

Kellywiththelegs · 09/08/2025 01:53

@CurlewKate Well apparently they were big Suit fans so there’s that 🤷🏻‍♀️William has said he likes Coldplay and Linkin Park, Catherine is a big Strictly fan, not sure how much more information you want them to reveal? I’m surprised you are so fascinated with the minutiae of their viewing habits I would have thought a republican would have no interest in such frivolities!

It’s entirely possible to be a Republican and love frivolities too! I yield to no one in my delight in snippets of trivia.

vera99 · 09/08/2025 07:53

jumpingthehighjump · 09/08/2025 07:40

Back to the Yorks... apparently the daughters are 'utterly mortified' and are keeping their distance from their Dad. Don't believe it. Of course they won't be photographed with him but no doubt they are just as close as they always have been with Ma and Pa.

As for Sarah, her IG post 2 days ago shows her wearing a pair of loafers with the words 'never complain, never explain' embroidered on them.
Tacky and embarrassing!!

Yes, the Mail is going long on the Yorks. I feel sorry for them — they don’t seem to have abandoned Harry, unlike the crueler royals. They now seem like rounded people who just had god-awful parents.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14984341/Princesses-Sordid-revelations-Prince-Andrew-Eugenie-Beatrice-distance-father.html

vera99 · 09/08/2025 08:01

Shakespeare wrote a sonnet about the two !!!

Upon the York’s fair daughters, Beatrice and Eugenie

From tempest born, by parents’ errant hand,
Two roses sprung amid the thorny brier;
Though oft the crowd hath mocked their noble stand,
Their spirits burn with soft, enduring fire.

In courts where cold ambition chills the bone,
They bear a warmth no crown could e’er bestow;
Not fashioned by the faults that time hath known,
But shaped through trials only true hearts know.

Though jests did fly, and harsh words sought to bind,
Their loyalty to kin refused to break;
Across the seas, through storm and swelling wind,
They stand by Harry — steadfast, for his sake.

So let the world with harsh discourse engage,
The York daughters write a gentler page.

Lifestooshort71 · 09/08/2025 08:02

CurlewKate · 08/08/2025 19:58

I don’t really understand that- are you saying there can be no speculation about people who are no longer alive? So Diana is off limits?

I don't like any form of malicious speculation without solid facts to corroborate them. Would the comments stand up in court?

vera99 · 09/08/2025 08:07

Lifestooshort71 · 09/08/2025 08:02

I don't like any form of malicious speculation without solid facts to corroborate them. Would the comments stand up in court?

May I kindly suggest you take a look at the H&M threads here? I usually avoid them because, once you strip away the malicious speculation and mockery, very little remainsand there are an enormous number created daily, often fueled by some latest manufactured outrage. What’s more, they’re increasingly hostile to Meghan, who, love her or loathe her, has made a success of her life and appears to be in a loving marriage with wonderful children.

jumpingthehighjump · 09/08/2025 08:10

vera99 · 09/08/2025 08:07

May I kindly suggest you take a look at the H&M threads here? I usually avoid them because, once you strip away the malicious speculation and mockery, very little remainsand there are an enormous number created daily, often fueled by some latest manufactured outrage. What’s more, they’re increasingly hostile to Meghan, who, love her or loathe her, has made a success of her life and appears to be in a loving marriage with wonderful children.

Have you got a tin hat you could don?!

Agree with all you have said!

JSMill · 09/08/2025 08:14

If anyone is interested, Andrew Lownie will be on the Scandal Mongers podcast on August 17th.

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