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The yorks , new book by Andrew Lownie !

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jeffgoldblum · 02/08/2025 12:39

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/2025.08.01-232432/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14962883/Prince-Andrew-royal-oafishness-Sex-obsessed-vulgar-vile-bedroom-habits-Meghan-bullying-bombshell-exposed-devastating-book-Royals-tried-ban.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.is/2025.08.01-232432/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-14962883/Prince-Andrew-royal-oafishness-Sex-obsessed-vulgar-vile-bedroom-habits-Meghan-bullying-bombshell-exposed-devastating-book-Royals-tried-ban.html

apparently the author will be serialising his new book in the dm weekly!
thought we might like to follow the snippets 😁

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CoffeeCantata · 04/08/2025 13:11

CurlewKate · 04/08/2025 12:47

Can I ask the people who know more about the RF than I do-is any of this a surprise? And even if it is a surprise-is it a shock? I’m sure I’ve read most of it on here or in the MSM for years. Except the HvA fist fight, of course! I’m so far a bit disappointed….

Andrew’s ghastliness has been known for decades - definitely since his Falklands service. The Queen sent him to Lockerbie after the tragedy there (she was elsewhere) and he made such a tactless mess of it that I think she then went herself to try to make amends.

I wasn’t aware of the level of sexual exploitation and harassment - I knew he was notorious for thinking all women were ‘available’ and would ask them (E Maitliss included) for their phone numbers, in the belief that they’d be flattered and certain to come running.

The press have long hinted that KC can’t stand him. I do hope this means he’ll get his come-uppance.

EmpressSisi · 04/08/2025 13:11

CathyorClaire · 04/08/2025 13:07

To the best of my recollection, since 2020, Prince Andrew has only appeared in an official capacity at the funerals of his parents.

He has managed to place himself centre stage on several occasions the first being when he was allowed to yap to the BBC cameras at Philip's funeral.

He went on to escort E2 (at the memorial service?) and address the public at a Christmas service demanding to know why they were there.

The first time he inserted himself into the proceedings should have been a warning and steps taken then to ensure he attends these things in a low key way.

Terrible optics to let it happen more than once.

So you agree he’s only attended the funerals and memorials of his parents, and been seen at Christmas church services with his family. That’s hardly ceremonial or representative of official royal duties.

Attending the funeral of one’s parents or going to church with family—something any private citizen is entitled to—doesn’t constitute “representing the monarchy” or the country. These are personal, familial occasions, not public engagements in service of the Crown. His presence there isn’t an endorsement; it’s just the reality of being part of a family, regardless of past disgrace.

EmpressSisi · 04/08/2025 13:15

CurlewKate · 04/08/2025 13:06

At least there’s one thing I’ve got in common with PA-I want a Faberge egg very much too. I wonder if we both want the same one…..

Same!

This one would go very nicely in living room 😍

The yorks , new book by Andrew Lownie !
jumpingthehighjump · 04/08/2025 13:20

So you agree he’s only attended the funerals and memorials of his parents, and been seen at Christmas church services with his family. That’s hardly ceremonial or representative of official royal duties.

Did you see my post saying he and Sarah led all the royal family into church, not funerals or memorials for his parents, but a service for King Constantine

Completely unnecessary

CathyorClaire · 04/08/2025 13:20

So you agree he’s only attended the funerals and memorials of his parents, and been seen at Christmas church services with his family. That’s hardly ceremonial or representative of official royal duties.

Attending: Fine. Preferably by a side door.

Managing to squirm his way to the front and centre of proceedings after showing his determination to do so: Not fine.

EmpressSisi · 04/08/2025 13:24

jumpingthehighjump · 04/08/2025 13:20

So you agree he’s only attended the funerals and memorials of his parents, and been seen at Christmas church services with his family. That’s hardly ceremonial or representative of official royal duties.

Did you see my post saying he and Sarah led all the royal family into church, not funerals or memorials for his parents, but a service for King Constantine

Completely unnecessary

Led or just walked in first?

BigFatLiar · 04/08/2025 13:26

jeffgoldblum · 04/08/2025 13:00

Good point! , we don’t really know if any of these comments are true!

Do we care. In the words of Fox Mulder 'I want to believe'.

Things don't have to be true they just have to be believed and repeated often enough, eventually they will become the truth even if they were originally made up.

EmpressSisi · 04/08/2025 13:30

@CathyorClaire

It’s a church—ultimately a public place where everyone is welcome. No one attending in a private capacity should be expected to sneak in through a side door. In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter whether he walked or sat at the front or the back of the congregation?

King Constantine was a family member, and I don’t begrudge anyone—public figure or not—the right to attend church services, weddings, or funerals for the sake of worship and family connection.

If, for example, Peter Phillips doesn’t want Andrew at his own event, that’s absolutely his prerogative. But outside of that, Andrew has just as much right to attend private family occasions as any other member of the family.

jumpingthehighjump · 04/08/2025 13:32

EmpressSisi · 04/08/2025 13:24

Led or just walked in first?

Led.

It was all over the media. He walked in front - with Sarah - and led in all members of the royal family attending including Anne

victorianbaby · 04/08/2025 13:35

CathyorClaire · 04/08/2025 13:20

So you agree he’s only attended the funerals and memorials of his parents, and been seen at Christmas church services with his family. That’s hardly ceremonial or representative of official royal duties.

Attending: Fine. Preferably by a side door.

Managing to squirm his way to the front and centre of proceedings after showing his determination to do so: Not fine.

What should have happened though? Princess Anne rugby tackle him to the ground?

LidlAmaretto · 04/08/2025 13:35

CurlewKate · 04/08/2025 13:06

At least there’s one thing I’ve got in common with PA-I want a Faberge egg very much too. I wonder if we both want the same one…..

Im very much not a 'trinket' person but my God, they are beautiful!

Hotflushesandchilblains · 04/08/2025 13:36

RosesAndHellebores · 02/08/2025 17:26

Reading that and noting the lack of empathy, I seriously wonder if he is neuro diverse and has additional learning difficulties.

Unkindness is NOT a sign of ND.

It is more likely that his behaviour is the result of him being the most spoiled member of a spoiled and not very bright family. There are plenty of characters in films and books who are like this - its just that most of them did it without the general public knowing about it.

victorianbaby · 04/08/2025 13:39

LidlAmaretto · 04/08/2025 12:36

Royal protocol is something they have made up to rank themselves in order of importance. Some of the stupid rules they have decided to bind themselves with have no consequence to anyone but themselves. Its utter nonsense. They could change it if they wanted to . This is a mess entirely of their own making as a family.
Edited to add after reading the original reply- Surely if the lowest ranking goes first, Anne, as a woman and behind Andrew in the line of succession would be ahead of Andrew? It should go Anne and family, Edward and family, Andrew and family, William and family them Charles and Camilla.

Edited

"they" have made up? You mean the current RF ?

CoffeeCantata · 04/08/2025 13:40

EmpressSisi · 04/08/2025 13:30

@CathyorClaire

It’s a church—ultimately a public place where everyone is welcome. No one attending in a private capacity should be expected to sneak in through a side door. In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter whether he walked or sat at the front or the back of the congregation?

King Constantine was a family member, and I don’t begrudge anyone—public figure or not—the right to attend church services, weddings, or funerals for the sake of worship and family connection.

If, for example, Peter Phillips doesn’t want Andrew at his own event, that’s absolutely his prerogative. But outside of that, Andrew has just as much right to attend private family occasions as any other member of the family.

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I agree about being allowed to go to church, but not to be part of the official royal procession. That puts everyone, including the spectators, in an awkward position.

It’s not necessary for his spiritual needs to be seen walking in procession. If he were asked to ‘sneak in and sit at the back’ I think we’d have a clearer understanding of his motives for attending church because this should not be a problem for him if he’s sincere.

victorianbaby · 04/08/2025 13:41

jumpingthehighjump · 04/08/2025 13:01

It was the memorial service for King Constantine of Greece where he and Sarah led all the Royal family, apart from William and Kate,. into church

So NOT ALL of the RF 🤷‍♀️

LidlAmaretto · 04/08/2025 13:41

CoffeeCantata · 04/08/2025 12:59

And it’s comical in a way, but also a serious point: you can tell him, certainly, but what if he defies instructions? Again, I get an image of unseemly scuffles at the doors of the Abbey, with clergy and security men acting as nightclub bouncers: “Oi, yer grace, you can’t come in ‘ere dressed like that!”

But I agree that he mustn’t be allowed to flout instructions in future and the public shouldn’t have to see him at all.

Honestly how on earth has someone so awful, petulant and entitled come to be? The teddy bear thing is laughable but it is clearly evidence of an extremely nasty person with absolutely no respect, trying to come up with stupid rules to catch out a servant. yet someone laminated a sheet telling staff where to put his teddies instead of telling him to piss off. Why is a 60+ year old man a member of the RF, yet no one has any control over what he does?

LidlAmaretto · 04/08/2025 13:42

victorianbaby · 04/08/2025 13:39

"they" have made up? You mean the current RF ?

The Royal Family- current and past. The current RF have decided to continue binding themselves to it because it reinforces their own bizarre need to pull rank within their own family. It serves no purpose.

jumpingthehighjump · 04/08/2025 13:44

victorianbaby · 04/08/2025 13:41

So NOT ALL of the RF 🤷‍♀️

I said without William and Kate in my posts about this, so really not sure what your point is

You think him and his ex wife of 30 years are fine leading members of the royal family into church, including Princess Anne and Edward and the rest of them. Excluding William and Kate as said.

I don't.

We can agree to disagree

jeffgoldblum · 04/08/2025 13:46

Without wishing to sound like a miserable bugger , can we please leave the church, outfits and protocol discussions now?
it’s been hashed over repeatedly, continuously and obviously people are wedded to their opinions!
I personally don’t give a damn , it’s boring, it’s happened and in the scheme of things, a complete nothing in comparison to Andrews other exploits!

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victorianbaby · 04/08/2025 13:48

jumpingthehighjump · 04/08/2025 13:44

I said without William and Kate in my posts about this, so really not sure what your point is

You think him and his ex wife of 30 years are fine leading members of the royal family into church, including Princess Anne and Edward and the rest of them. Excluding William and Kate as said.

I don't.

We can agree to disagree

I didn't say I thought that.

victorianbaby · 04/08/2025 13:50

LidlAmaretto · 04/08/2025 13:42

The Royal Family- current and past. The current RF have decided to continue binding themselves to it because it reinforces their own bizarre need to pull rank within their own family. It serves no purpose.

Oh " and the past" - I was wondering what you knew about the traditions of the monarchy. That's why I asked.

EmpressSisi · 04/08/2025 13:51

jumpingthehighjump · 04/08/2025 13:32

Led.

It was all over the media. He walked in front - with Sarah - and led in all members of the royal family attending including Anne

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“Leading” implies a sense of hierarchy or ceremonial structure — the kind we typically see in royal processions, where family members enter in strict order of precedence. But that clearly wasn’t the case here.

After Andrew, Sarah, and Tim Lawrence, the next to arrive were Anne, Zara, and Mike — not Beatrice and Eugenie, who (if this were about protocol) would logically have followed their father. The order was clearly informal.

What actually happened is that Andrew walked in first, and the rest of the family followed in a casual, unstructured way. Sarah seemed to be walking and chatting with Tim Lawrence for most of the approach, and Andrew, characteristically, just strode ahead. That’s not “leading the family” — that’s Andrew being Andrew.

The tabloids, of course, spun it into something more dramatic because it generates clicks. But the footage doesn’t support the idea of a formal procession or ceremonial role.

victorianbaby · 04/08/2025 13:51

LidlAmaretto · 04/08/2025 13:41

Honestly how on earth has someone so awful, petulant and entitled come to be? The teddy bear thing is laughable but it is clearly evidence of an extremely nasty person with absolutely no respect, trying to come up with stupid rules to catch out a servant. yet someone laminated a sheet telling staff where to put his teddies instead of telling him to piss off. Why is a 60+ year old man a member of the RF, yet no one has any control over what he does?

I'm not saying he's not an arse but what do you suggest they actually do?

Stuckinasitiation · 04/08/2025 13:53

Take his house away, reduce his funds, get that awful woman out of the house so she's not leeching off them all . Publicly distance themselves. Stop inviting his ex wife to Sandringham and Balmoral.

Weepixie · 04/08/2025 13:55

The things mentioned today about Andrew as a TA have been known about for years so in that respect I’d say there wasn’t anything new in the article today.

A lot of the other stuff was also old news.

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