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The yorks , new book by Andrew Lownie !

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jeffgoldblum · 02/08/2025 12:39

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apparently the author will be serialising his new book in the dm weekly!
thought we might like to follow the snippets 😁

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jumpingthehighjump · 04/08/2025 12:40

LidlAmaretto · 04/08/2025 12:36

Royal protocol is something they have made up to rank themselves in order of importance. Some of the stupid rules they have decided to bind themselves with have no consequence to anyone but themselves. Its utter nonsense. They could change it if they wanted to . This is a mess entirely of their own making as a family.
Edited to add after reading the original reply- Surely if the lowest ranking goes first, Anne, as a woman and behind Andrew in the line of succession would be ahead of Andrew? It should go Anne and family, Edward and family, Andrew and family, William and family them Charles and Camilla.

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I agree! They are top of the pile and in charge,they can do what they want!

jeffgoldblum · 04/08/2025 12:41

At school, Gordonstoun contemporaries noticed how impressed he appeared to be with the extreme wealth he encountered among some other pupils. And he seems willing to pursue it, even if it makes him vulnerable. Tim Reilly, vice-president of the international financial advisory firm Kroll, was with Andrew in Russia in his days as a trade envoy.
‘On an official Kremlin Museums tour, he was angling to be given a Fabergé egg. Even the Russians were stunned by his undisguised avarice.’
Reilly reckons: ‘Putin could finish Andrew (and the Royal Family) any time he likes with photos, tales and evidence he no doubt has on Andrew in Russia.’

angling for a faberge egg!!??? 🤔

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EmpressSisi · 04/08/2025 12:43

jeffgoldblum · 04/08/2025 12:41

At school, Gordonstoun contemporaries noticed how impressed he appeared to be with the extreme wealth he encountered among some other pupils. And he seems willing to pursue it, even if it makes him vulnerable. Tim Reilly, vice-president of the international financial advisory firm Kroll, was with Andrew in Russia in his days as a trade envoy.
‘On an official Kremlin Museums tour, he was angling to be given a Fabergé egg. Even the Russians were stunned by his undisguised avarice.’
Reilly reckons: ‘Putin could finish Andrew (and the Royal Family) any time he likes with photos, tales and evidence he no doubt has on Andrew in Russia.’

angling for a faberge egg!!??? 🤔

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A Fabregé egg 🤣🤦🏼‍♀️

Briantheguitargod · 04/08/2025 12:43

PA could have gone to another church. its not like there is only one in that region.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/08/2025 12:43

Senior Foreign Office sources declared that he would be kept on a tight rein to ensure he had no opportunity to let his personal interests interfere with his official duties as the figurehead of the export industry: ‘There is no way that we will let British trade policy be determined by the location of the world’s best golf courses.’

Had to smile at that one, @jeffgoldblum - as if it would ever have happened with his mummy as their ultimate boss

In any case it clearly didn't work, so in a choice between incompetence on the part of the FCO or an expectation among the RF that they can carry on precisely as they want I know which one my money would be on

LidlAmaretto · 04/08/2025 12:45

Briantheguitargod · 04/08/2025 12:43

PA could have gone to another church. its not like there is only one in that region.

I doubt, if forced to go to another church, or even go quietly, he would bother going to church. He just wants the exhibition. I cant imagine what he is listening to if he actually does bother going for anything other than to show people how important he is.

CurlewKate · 04/08/2025 12:47

Can I ask the people who know more about the RF than I do-is any of this a surprise? And even if it is a surprise-is it a shock? I’m sure I’ve read most of it on here or in the MSM for years. Except the HvA fist fight, of course! I’m so far a bit disappointed….

jeffgoldblum · 04/08/2025 12:47

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/08/2025 12:43

Senior Foreign Office sources declared that he would be kept on a tight rein to ensure he had no opportunity to let his personal interests interfere with his official duties as the figurehead of the export industry: ‘There is no way that we will let British trade policy be determined by the location of the world’s best golf courses.’

Had to smile at that one, @jeffgoldblum - as if it would ever have happened with his mummy as their ultimate boss

In any case it clearly didn't work, so in a choice between incompetence on the part of the FCO or an expectation among the RF that they can carry on precisely as they want I know which one my money would be on

True puzzled , I find it interesting though that Charles apparently did try to block the appointment and point out ( rather obviously) what could go wrong!
why was he ignored? , true he had less power than the monarch but as the heir and pow surely his thoughts should carry some weight!

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/08/2025 12:48

you have now conjured up a farcical’walking race’ to church, with PA overtaking image in my mind!🤣

Sorry, @CoffeeCantata, I couldn't resist Grin (Starts at 3:30)

jeffgoldblum · 04/08/2025 12:48

EmpressSisi · 04/08/2025 12:43

A Fabregé egg 🤣🤦🏼‍♀️

I did find that so outrageous that it was slightly amusing! 🤣

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EmpressSisi · 04/08/2025 12:49

LidlAmaretto · 04/08/2025 12:36

Royal protocol is something they have made up to rank themselves in order of importance. Some of the stupid rules they have decided to bind themselves with have no consequence to anyone but themselves. Its utter nonsense. They could change it if they wanted to . This is a mess entirely of their own making as a family.
Edited to add after reading the original reply- Surely if the lowest ranking goes first, Anne, as a woman and behind Andrew in the line of succession would be ahead of Andrew? It should go Anne and family, Edward and family, Andrew and family, William and family them Charles and Camilla.

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But surely if the order of precedence was changed—or if it didn’t exist at all—then it really wouldn’t matter whether Andrew walked ahead or behind. The outrage only comes if we’re still treating the procession as symbolic of hierarchy or honour.

CathyorClaire · 04/08/2025 12:49

IdaGlossop · 04/08/2025 11:05

Lownie issued a statement yesterday standing by his claims. On X, he's made clear he I'll be standing his ground, whatever H & M do next.

Great news.

I very much doubt a mainstream book with these kind of claims would have been published without firm evidence and lawyers being all over it.

I believe AL has been regularly thwarted in his attempts to examine royal papers by the use of their exemption from the FOI act in the past. I'm delighted he's been able to pull together this examination of the odious Yorks.

jumpingthehighjump · 04/08/2025 12:50

I read a while back that every single trade visit - and there were a lot - was either preceded or ended with days of golf at the best golf courses in the world.

One satisfaction for me is....he can't do that anymore, he certainly will never be playing at Augusta or Pebble Beach in the US ever again

LidlAmaretto · 04/08/2025 12:50

jeffgoldblum · 04/08/2025 12:47

True puzzled , I find it interesting though that Charles apparently did try to block the appointment and point out ( rather obviously) what could go wrong!
why was he ignored? , true he had less power than the monarch but as the heir and pow surely his thoughts should carry some weight!

I presume he was overruled by The Queen. She had a massive blind spot for Andrew and it doesn't seem that much of a close relationship with Charles, or much respect for his points of view or vision for the Monarchy. She basically buried her head in the sand about her beloved Andrew (among other things) and did next to nothing apart from fuss about curtseying, nail polish and tights!

EmpressSisi · 04/08/2025 12:51

Briantheguitargod · 04/08/2025 12:43

PA could have gone to another church. its not like there is only one in that region.

It’s his family’s church. As much as I dislike him I still believe he is entitled to worship with his family in private at the church of his choice.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/08/2025 12:53

I find it interesting though that Charles apparently did try to block the appointment ...

Perhaps, @jeffgoldblum, but let's never forget that we only have the "source's" word that he did try to block it

I don't pretend to know either way, but it's equally possible Charles wouldn't have dared for fear of what Andrew might reveal if thwarted once too often, and that the claim was simply made to look the heir look better

Mylovelygreendress · 04/08/2025 12:53

Briantheguitargod · 04/08/2025 12:03

At King Charles’ coronation, he attended purely as a guest, with no formal or ceremonial role.

and got to play dress up.

That was so wrong although I am sure I read somewhere that he was not supposed to wear that regalia .

JSMill · 04/08/2025 12:57

PA didn’t attend Christmas at Sandringham did he?

jeffgoldblum · 04/08/2025 12:58

The obvious next step should have been command of a frigate, but the feeling was that Andrew had neither the abilities nor the desire to take this path. He was tipped as second-in-command of the warship HMS Cumberland, commanded by his brother-in-law, Captain Tim Laurence, Princess Anne’s husband, but the expected move never happened.
Passed over for promotion to commander three times, he was told by the First Sea Lord, Admiral Jock Slater, he had no future in the Senior Service, and it was announced that Andrew would leave the Navy in 1999 after 20 years.
Part of the problem, it was claimed, was his lack of a university degree and that he had no aptitude for maths. But a senior officer put his failure to make progress down to ‘a lack of application and a lack of attention to fulfilling his duties properly’.
In the event, the prince would stay much longer in the service than intended. A job was found for him in the Directorate of Naval Operations at the Ministry of Defence and he was promoted to commander – probably at the instigation of Charles, who ‘talked’ to a few admirals about finding a role for his brother. The suspicion was that the Royal Family was keen to keep Andrew within the structure and discipline of the Royal Navy.
There were mutterings of preferential treatment, however, from fellow officers. One said: ‘Everyone knows he only got this job because it is a swan-about and will enable him to travel the world, shaking hands and playing golf.’ As if to prove the point, on his second day in the post the prince was playing 18 holes in an inter-forces tournament.
Andrew’s eventual leaving in July 2001 was marked by an interview with the MOD’s in-house journal, in which he claimed to be worn out from working 14-hour days. ‘I was doing too much.’ This caused a chuckle among colleagues, given that ‘he always leaves here with the rest of us at 6pm’.

interesting! , the royal family apparently wanted him to stay in the navy ( obviously to keep him out of trouble!)
the obvious comparisons are clear here , I won’t insult people’s intelligence by pointing it out!

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CoffeeCantata · 04/08/2025 12:59

Mylovelygreendress · 04/08/2025 12:53

That was so wrong although I am sure I read somewhere that he was not supposed to wear that regalia .

And it’s comical in a way, but also a serious point: you can tell him, certainly, but what if he defies instructions? Again, I get an image of unseemly scuffles at the doors of the Abbey, with clergy and security men acting as nightclub bouncers: “Oi, yer grace, you can’t come in ‘ere dressed like that!”

But I agree that he mustn’t be allowed to flout instructions in future and the public shouldn’t have to see him at all.

jeffgoldblum · 04/08/2025 13:00

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/08/2025 12:53

I find it interesting though that Charles apparently did try to block the appointment ...

Perhaps, @jeffgoldblum, but let's never forget that we only have the "source's" word that he did try to block it

I don't pretend to know either way, but it's equally possible Charles wouldn't have dared for fear of what Andrew might reveal if thwarted once too often, and that the claim was simply made to look the heir look better

Good point! , we don’t really know if any of these comments are true!

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jumpingthehighjump · 04/08/2025 13:01

EmpressSisi · 04/08/2025 12:51

It’s his family’s church. As much as I dislike him I still believe he is entitled to worship with his family in private at the church of his choice.

It was the memorial service for King Constantine of Greece where he and Sarah led all the Royal family, apart from William and Kate,. into church

CoffeeCantata · 04/08/2025 13:03

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/08/2025 12:48

you have now conjured up a farcical’walking race’ to church, with PA overtaking image in my mind!🤣

Sorry, @CoffeeCantata, I couldn't resist Grin (Starts at 3:30)

Brilliant! I miss Dave Allen.

I AM trying not to make light of this serious situation but of course, trouble at t’ Palace does have comedy potential, as do all scenarios where people wear special formal clothing and take part in solemn occasions.

CurlewKate · 04/08/2025 13:06

At least there’s one thing I’ve got in common with PA-I want a Faberge egg very much too. I wonder if we both want the same one…..

CathyorClaire · 04/08/2025 13:07

To the best of my recollection, since 2020, Prince Andrew has only appeared in an official capacity at the funerals of his parents.

He has managed to place himself centre stage on several occasions the first being when he was allowed to yap to the BBC cameras at Philip's funeral.

He went on to escort E2 (at the memorial service?) and address the public at a Christmas service demanding to know why they were there.

The first time he inserted himself into the proceedings should have been a warning and steps taken then to ensure he attends these things in a low key way.

Terrible optics to let it happen more than once.

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