The yorks , new book by Andrew Lownie !

[jeffgoldblum]

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apparently the author will be serialising his new book in the dm weekly!
thought we might like to follow the snippets 😁

I can only imagine this is a threat done on what maybe about to appear. One of his most recent cases with the Mail cost him tens of thousands (if not more) for the judge to warn him of "honest opinion" and he quickly withdrew. All I'm seeing is the Streisand effect for Harry.

I don’t see that attitude on here. But - Harry has thrown his cap into the ring and threatened the paper with legal action!

Harry has dragged himself into this mess and quite why, is puzzling.

If I were a conspiracy theorist-which I’m not-I would wonder whether the whole Harry thing is a plan to deflect our attention from Andrew’s appallingness. And from the women and girls who are the real victims.

I think Harry’s actions are likely to be more cock-up than conspiracy!

And I can’t see how he’d be in league with the RF about this.

Other than some kind of issue with the York sisters (friendship? pressure?) I can’t see why H would want to get involved in all this. If I were him I’d want to sit back with my popcorn.

The whole reason this has now become a big part of the discussion is because within a few hours of it being published, Harry and Meghan have made a public statement and brought in the lawyers.

I think IF there is any conspiracy at all, it would possibly be something that Harry and Meghan are involved in manipulating, rather than the RF or the newspaper editors.

Of all the things said about them recently, that Harry was nasty and rude to the Queen, that the Queen didn't like Meghan, the Queen believed Meghan orchestrated the relationship with Harry, etc etc., the PA allegations are the ones they have stepped in to defend.

Now its going to be a waiting game to see if the author retracts his claims, and if he doesn't,, will H&M pursue a legal case, and if they don't pursue it, why not !.

so true. this thread is an example that people would blame H&M for anything.

I’m honestly not blaming Harry and Meghan and like everyone else on here, I don’t believe the 2012 pornography claim.

I’m just interested in why he did what he did over the weekend. It seems so odd.

Whilst I don’t doubt that Meghan manipulated the blind date (I don’t believe for a minute that she didn’t know who Harry was) I do think that their relationship is a loving one and also that some of their complaints about the RF probably have merit. I’m truly neutral on the Harry/William thing and don’t care much. I am just curious about Harry’s behaviour over the weekend.

I enjoy a bit of tittle tattle but I don’t lose sight of the real victims in this tale, the sexually assaulted women. And there is a valid story about taxpayers’ money too.

so true. this thread is an example that people would blame H&M for anything

No it’s not and if you really do believe that then you need some help with your comprehension.

I wonder if it's just a knee jerk reaction from Harry and he hasn't thought about the consequences of his actions, as usual.

1. It might be helpful to reread the thread and double-check the context as you seem to have spectacularly misunderstood what’s actually going on and cherry picked parts to suit your narrative
2. Harry was mentioned because the book discusses his relationship with Andrew, just as it does with William.
3. Many readers seemed to respond positively to the idea of Harry confronting his unpleasant uncle.
4. Harry later responded with a legal letter to the Daily Mail, denying the claims and, in doing so, became part of the story himself.

I wonder if he misread the story and thought it was about something else?

Harry has made this all about Harry. If he’d sat tight and kept quiet, his small part in the book would have faded away as more stuff comes out about Andrew.

I honestly don’t understand his reasoning. If there’s one thing that could actually boost Harry’s public image, it’s the idea of him decking his uncle. Andrew is the only royal less popular than Harry, and people love stories where bullies get their comeuppance—especially when it’s someone like Harry, who’s one of the few people in the royal hierarchy who could actually get away with it. Even if the story isn’t true, it doesn’t damage his reputation; it enhances it. It plays into the retribution fantasy, not scandal.

And it’s not like Harry’s history of violence is a secret—he’s lashed out at photographers, admitted to physically confronting his bodyguard, and scrapped with William. It even makes Meghan look good by comparison, as the one who stepped in and “changed” him after confronting him over his temper.

But then he sends a legal letter denying this, while staying silent on so many other allegations, and it just ends up making those unaddressed stories look more plausible. Because if this is the thing he finds worth fighting over, what does it say about the rest?

Exactly. And because some people want to deflect blame from Harry, they try to drag Buckingham Palace into it — claiming it’s them trying to shift the narrative. But this situation has nothing to do with Buckingham Palace.

Harry’s supporters need to accept that he is close to his uncle. He never criticized Andrew in his book or interviews. And now, within just a few hours of this new report, there was a denial issued through his spokesperson, and he also brought in lawyers. It’s Harry’s own fault that he has now become part of the story.

Meanwhile, when the media made serious claims over the past few years — for example about what the Queen allegedly said about Meghan, bullying by Meghan to her American employees, the situation with the African wildlife park, or most recently the woman who accused him of bullying — he stayed completely silent.

I don’t know how to do the archive link to avoid the DM paywall, but today’s excerpt deals with Andrew’s business dealings and finances and is pretty shocking. Not surprising exactly, but the murkiness of who he’s been connected with and the implications are potentially quite sinister. Surely there has to be an official investigation now….?

Examples, please, of people blaming H & M for the issues under discussion on this thread.

I'd be fascinated to hear!

There certainly seems to be a knee-jerk reaction from H & M defenders on here.

That seems very likely!

Very well said.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14951469/Meghan-Markle-royal-aides-bullying-frightened-revenge.html
Strange timing ?

Agree . Like the BBC interview in May .

H and m are not part of the Bp pr team!
the royal family and Andrew have made no comment!

If Harry wants to improve his reputation, he's shooting himself in the foot. By denying he and Andrew had a scrap , is he also sticking up for him by denying that Andrew said anything derogatory about Meghan ?
Is he nailing his flag to the wrong mast?

Harry’s supporters need to accept that he is close to his uncle

By that reasoning, so are his brother Charles, his other brother Edward and his sister Anne. They haven't criticised Andrew in any way, shape or form, not even hinted at it.

@Mylovelygreendress
I hope those bullying allegations are never forgotten. Some people are still suffering the psychological damage from their time with H & M!

Truth will out eventually.