The yorks , new book by Andrew Lownie !

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apparently the author will be serialising his new book in the dm weekly!
thought we might like to follow the snippets 😁

Not all public schoolboys of course. Or even most. But there is a particular type of posh boy who does go in for a type of sexual/scatalogical
humour coupled with very confident manners. Several of us on here recognised it immediately.

OMG…bloody autocorrect!

Fake nests?? Fakeness.

And when I checked it had changed girlish to girlie, which has completely different connotations. Dearie me!

To be honest, when she’s Queen, I want her to come across assertive and strong on the public stage. And she could learn to.

Unfortunately she's never struck me as someone who has any desire to do that sort of thing. She seems like she'd be much happier just living in the countryside with her family and pursuing her hobbies without any sort of royal role.

Just as well women don't indulge in crude jokes,(much). We sit around discussing cake recipes and making jokes about vanilla extract versus vanilla essence.

The good thin about this book for the author is it doesn't have to be true merely believed. You could write your own version using charge adding in a few new stories and have a best seller.

You’re obsessed with the POW. I don’t get it

I’m going to assume you disagree with my post too then @victorianbaby?
as you disagree with those posts agreeing with mine.
im Talking about a particular set of over privileged , powerful white males who doesn’t receive censure or punishment because those who teach them or serve them wouldn’t dare!
I have never witnessed a poc male behave this way because there was very few during Andrews school days!
I will take your word on that , I cannot comment for two reasons 1 I haven’t seen it and 2 as a white woman I am confident that my criticism of said poc males would be subject to cries of racism .

Catching up as per but why on earth might Harold be so exercised over allegations he gave his hideous uncle a slap when he's on record as exhibiting similar behaviour to both his protection officer and a random pop star?

Maybe there'll be something that makes it make sense posted further on 😁

Pretty much what we’ve been saying Cathy it’s a bizarre mystery!

It’s a complicated narrative….

Maybe he wants to keep on the Yorks good side, why is up for debate!

Or you accept that she’s better one-on-one with people and not as strong at giving speeches. I read somewhere that it’s not so much about how you say something, but what you’re actually saying. I’ve seen people who are great at delivering speeches, but it’s just word salad — and they struggle with genuine one-on-one interaction.

Maybe because it's only DM who have published so far.

The actual book isn't due for release until 14th August.

I'm marking the date in my upcoming vexatious legal actions diary 😁

Why does Catherine need to come over as assertive and strong? She isn’t going to be Prime Minister.

But I go back to my previous question: why is he so very different from his siblings? For all their faults, I’m not prepared to believe that Charles, Anne or Edward share the same vulgar, crude and boorish character as Andrew. I think it’s got to be more than just being mummy’s favourite when a child, or being considered the best looking of the bunch when young.

I think we're back to to the eternal nature v. nurture question 🤓

I feel really strongly about this!

I think she is strong. She asserted herself on the funeral walkabout with the Sussexes, for example. But strength manifests in different ways. Quiet, apparently-shy people can be very strong- they’re just not loud or performative about it.

And she’s presumably going to be consort, not the monarch, so constitutionally she shouldn’t be too dominant. This shouldn’t be confused with suggesting that a woman should be subordinate to her husband- Prince Philip and Prince Albert before him had to watch their step as mere consorts and famously found it difficult!

Yes, I agree, As consort it’s more important for Catherine to be good at the one-to-one interactions. She’s going to be mainly in a supporting role, but is perfectly competent to make a speech herself when she’s on a solo visit.

i see no problem whatsoever!

It’s so tantalising to know just how he became the wonderful, inspirational man we read about in this article!

I would guess, probably unfairly, that he’s the least intelligent of the siblings, and in his situation (unearned privilege, the deference of staff and ‘commoners’, being assigned roles for which he is completely unqualified and untrained etc etc) this deficiency has produced a monster of horrendous proportions.

But why then would Henry shake sleeping dogs out of their slumber with legal notices?

It's not like he doesn't have recorded form for being a bit handsy and all other things being equal, slapping Randy around would win him a lot more popular credit than being dumped in a dog bowl with a broken necklace.

I think Catherine has overcome a lot of her shyness in public speaking, but mostly she comes across as genuine and sincere, she is not arrogant or self promoting and she seems quite gentle. People relate to her, even if she isn’t the greatest public speaker on the planet.

Bring back that laughing emoji! This made me spit out my drink…

What a turn of phrase!

To be fair I think it must be hard for any parent to admit they’d borne and raised a bad’un and I do wonder how much HMQ was (ironically) “spared” of his behaviours by coutiers who tried to contain him as well as they were able, rather than be frank about his actions
Couriers have said that Andrew would not listen to anyone about his behaviour, saying that he would only listen to The Queen. She would always back him up. She was complicit in his behaviour and allowed him to treat her staff appallingly.

H&M seem to not like the boot being on the other foot now. Things said about them and they aren’t happy. The Oprah interview is what sticks in the mind about H&M for me.

Maybe, but I bet a) he was on his best behaviour in the Queen’s presence (not perfect, just not at the level others report) and b) the Queen probably WAS given a censored version of his crimes.

But why then would Henry shake sleeping dogs out of their slumber with legal notices?

One can only assume that he's never heard of the Streisand effect @CathyorClaire

Plus those dragons aren't going to slay themselves.....