Talks for reconciliation

[LadyJaneGrey18]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14899657/King-Charles-Prince-Harry-aides-meet-London-secret-peace-summit.html

What to make of this??

I’m not sure. With 10 mins in the balcony I would say all sides were in on it.

I think that this is a Sussex leak. RF PR would be happy with Catherine handing out Wimbledon trophies on the front pages of Sunday and Monday papers and would have leaked the news mid week after Wimbledon. The men are looking directly at the pap and looking annoyed, I’d expect the woman to look at who they were talking about so she could get a pic when informing the Sussexes about the pap and the possibility that this would be leaked in future although I accept that this she may have looked a moment after this frame.Considering their respective budgets, very strange that they went for such a public place. If this was RF PR then I’d expect the men to pretend to not see the pap.

I agree that Invictus and security seem most likely although Harry asking for a soft launch back in the UK ( invites to events in churches and Trooping type things ) may not be out of the question. He’d get the security that he wanted for that kind of thing as it’s a formal invitation from the King. Harry has to mend fences before his father passes away because I think that William won’t be so forgiving.

I had assumed Meghans stock photos was down to them not being in California, so using older stuff for her socials. (Haven’t they bought a holiday home in Portugal and it’s school holidays now, I’d assume they’re not in California and someone else is managing her official feed with previously agreed posts)

Charles has nothing to gain from this. The RF have nothing to gain.
It's all about Harry. He's the one leaking to the DM.

I do also think they must be struggling for money. Or at least enough money to maintain the very expensive lifestyle.

I do not condemn Meghan at all for trying to make money. Yes her attempts are sometimes cack-handed and there have been issues with branding and trading as "HRH" but she is clearly of the mindset that someone needs to bring in the money to pay the mortgage, and is quite happy to do really distasteful interviews to achieve that. Harry does not have that mindset, he has never had to earn a wage or pay bills and doesn't seem to be able to get his brain around the fact that things have changed. Don't decry Meghan for trying to earn cash, she is stepping up for her kids where her husband is not.

@KassandraOfSparta - credit to Meghan for trying to earn money without continuously resorting to trashing the RF. At least pancake mix is harmless. She's trying to have earning opportunities beyond that now.

Was it the late HMQ’s cousin who said,

“The problem is that Harry is not that strong or bright but she is both.”

I think she hit the nail on the head there.

Absolutely!

Harry asking for a soft launch back in the UK ( invites to events in churches and Trooping type things ) may not be out of the question. He’d get the security that he wanted ...

and the publicity would be massive, for both him and his wife and her business.

I totally agree with what you are saying about M. I have zero time for H.

Meghan is definitely a strong woman. She has had a privileged upbringing for sure but made her own way in the world. She landed a role on a TV show which is not easy when you are one of a bazillion pretty, aspiring actresses, and had the nouse to extend her reach by creating a lifestyle blog. She has the American "go-getter" attitude - nobody is going to do it for you, so you have to make it happen yourself. That's no bad thing, but partly what landed her in so much trouble with the Royals - she was not used to being constrained and told she could no longer do certain things, or not used to having her diary organised for her. It must have been a huge culture shock, Harry could have properly prepared her for it, and didn't.

As for bright, I'm not sure that's the word I'd use as some of the decisions they have made - like the launch and speedy withdrawal of American River Orchard - have been poor. Savvy, maybe, or driven. She's certainly not someone I'd want to make an enemy of.

I completely agree, @KassandraOfSparta . I think you've absolutely sussed Meghan.

She's a brat and a troublemaker.

I think he'd be perfectly happy with "Cali celeb fake life" if he were a real part of it, getting feted and fawned over in the way he did as a royal, simply by turning up. But of course it doesn't work that way outside the royal context. He's basically a C list curiosity in California, and has to earn his keep. That offends his sensibilities as a Prince of the Realm who had everything gifted to him simply because he existed.

There’s over 6 thousand comments on the DM, all in the negative saying this is a terrible idea.

This no PR win for the palace. They are labelling him a weak king.

So I doubt very much that the palace leaked this.

But the timing is very odd.

A photographer was tipped off and was there for arrivals, balcony photos and departures on Wednesday. This is during the State visit when the palace would be very busy. That ends on The Thursday and Charles had an earth summit thing on the Friday.

When did the DM get these photos? If it was a DM photographer …then they would have published on the Wednesday night. They wouldn’t have cared that it was during the State visit and this would grab attention away from it.

So the DM must have been given the photos at a later date. Once the visit was over etc. I think this has been organised by Harry’s PR but they’ve tried not to piss off the King by doing it during the week, stealing the limelight.

I think you're on the money, @AtIusvue .

Good question!
im now feeling the urge to plop onto a thread in the litter tray and announce “ I don’t know about anyone else but I don’t give a fuck about cats , anyone else?

I don't see Meghan as a strong woman, I see her as a master manipulator.

Meghan uses people to get what she wants, and she is okay with lying to get what she wants. Her role on suits was thanks to her co star, who she knew for years and who lobbied for her to get the role of his love interest. She lied about having a union card to get an earlier job. She used her Royal wedding to open up doors to people she could never have dreamed of being in their orbit. Using her Royal titles to progress her profile outside of the RF.

There is so much more, the things coming out now about her orchestrating her meeting with Harry, the ex partners who were unceremoniously dumped for the next step up,

Even her business has been at the expense of others, the initial plans to do a copy of Flamingo Estate, the stealing of the business name from a smaller business, the pretence of being a 'founder'.

If the American 'go-getter' attitude is to trample on everyone and deceive to get where you want to go, then I think she fits that bill for sure.

H&M will be pleased at the timing of this. M will be hoping that it deflects some very hard questions being asked about the harvesting of data by As Ever when fans are attempting to buy non existent goods.

@KassandraOfSparta

“From a "Royal Family" point of view, Harry has made his point very clear - he does not want any part of life as a working royal.”

Yet he has raised the possibility that his DC could be working Royals ??

The monarchy have managed to withstand all the disclosures. I'd argue that it is Harry who has lost the most. It would be self inflicted harm to allow a round two which would be an inevitablity as Harry cannot have the one thing he craves. There would also be far less sympathy especially if Catherine or the Wales children take the collateral damage. But I believe Charles knows this hence sending staff. He doesn't trust Harry no matter how much he loves him.

@Thedom
I don't see Meghan as a strong woman, I see her as a master manipulator.

I think she’s both. She channels her strengths in a self serving, negative way which is detrimental. Other than that, I totally agree with you.

“From a "Royal Family" point of view, Harry has made his point very clear - he does not want any part of life as a working royal.”

Harry backtracked on this though, he saw an opportunity to jump back in when his father was ill and offered to 'help out'. I think his wish for reconciliation with his family is as much about being on the RF stage again,(along with his kids being on that stage) and the prestige and security opportunities that brings,, as it is about rebuilding personal relationships.

You can just see him saying, hey I am a part time working royal now, showme the security.

Oh I totally accept that she is ruthless, uses people, tramples on people who are in her way. This is not an uncommon trait in successful people. Harry had probably never come across anyone like her and was totally unprepared.

She does have the attitude though that you have to provide for yourself/your kids because nobody is going to do that for you, and I imagine Harry's entitled attitude of being bankrolled because of your birth drives her nuts.

I doubt it. She was bankrolled by her Dad who she has now chosen to disown. He's served his purpose and now isn't any further use to her so he's cast aside like an old rag. I had the measure of her from the start whe. Folk were singing her praises. Breath of fresh air. Modernise the royals, Yeah right. She was a disaster.