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onehorserace · 13/07/2025 20:42

Spectre8 · 13/07/2025 20:35

So you think William and Katr should also have a toned down wedding?

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onehorserace · 13/07/2025 20:43

Spectre8 · 13/07/2025 20:35

So you think William and Katr should also have a toned down wedding?

Their wedding has been and gone many years ago. 🤷‍♀️

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 20:43

Wundy · 13/07/2025 20:33

Oops sorry - went off too soon!

Soneone said they'd feel let down by Charles if he allowed H back, and daft as it sounds, this is how I'd feel too.

My late Dh was a staunch republican for most of his adult life. Then it came to a point where he had to work on a project in which Charles was heavily involved. After their first meeting, he begrudgingly admitted to having liked him but felt maybe that was because Charles had been on a charm offensive.

As the weeks went on, he admitted to liking him more. And then to respecting him and his opinion. And finally, to looking forward to their meetings.

I would sort of somehow, stupidly, feel that I would be letting dh down, if Charles did accept H and M back into the fold, and I was ok with it! That probably only makes sense in my own head though!

I completely get you, Wundy. What Harry has done both to his family and the country has ruled him out for reinstatement to further public service, to my mind.

And that’s not even taking into account the callousness regarding the illness of KC and Catherine.

Forget it, Harry! Sling your hook, mate.

Bontonbonbon · 13/07/2025 20:52

@Spectre8
I’ll bite. I only think they should have toned down their wedding if they had given an interview saying they never wanted a big wedding and hinted they were forever to do so by the palace.

William and Catherine are gracious people who understood that their wedding was a national event because they are the future king and queen. Which is why they had to invite world leaders and dignitaries they didn’t really know. Because it was both a personal and national event with ties to government soft power.

Bontonbonbon · 13/07/2025 20:53

Harry and Meghan’s wedding could have been low key. They aren’t important. They won’t ever be a head of state. William will.

Wundy · 13/07/2025 20:54

@Spectre8 what do you get out of posting on this board? Genuine question.

You're apparently not a fan of H & M but seem to spend quite some time defending them. I say "defending", but in the main, your posts are "whataboutery" (think I may have spelt that wrong!)

You don't often put forward any actual arguments or information that would lead me to change my mind about H and M, and you rarely accept any criticism, no matter how mild, about them. Is there anything at all they have done that you disapprove of? What would they need to do for you to stop defending them?

I mean, you defend who you like obviously, but what's in it for you? If you're the sort of person who doesn't like seeing injustice/unfairness, there are scores of other, more deserving, people and causes you could be advocating for.

I'm not meaning to attack you or be rude at all - I actually find you and your stance quite interesting and am curious!

itcontinuesforever · 13/07/2025 20:58

Wundy · 13/07/2025 20:54

@Spectre8 what do you get out of posting on this board? Genuine question.

You're apparently not a fan of H & M but seem to spend quite some time defending them. I say "defending", but in the main, your posts are "whataboutery" (think I may have spelt that wrong!)

You don't often put forward any actual arguments or information that would lead me to change my mind about H and M, and you rarely accept any criticism, no matter how mild, about them. Is there anything at all they have done that you disapprove of? What would they need to do for you to stop defending them?

I mean, you defend who you like obviously, but what's in it for you? If you're the sort of person who doesn't like seeing injustice/unfairness, there are scores of other, more deserving, people and causes you could be advocating for.

I'm not meaning to attack you or be rude at all - I actually find you and your stance quite interesting and am curious!

@Wundy what do you get from posting on this board? Genuine question.

Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2025 21:01

@Spectre8 how would you feel if H and M did reconcile with the RF ? Would you be disappointed ? Annoyed ? Happy ?
Not trying to put you on the spot but you are so defensive of H and M and against the RF especially the Wales family .

HonoriaBulstrode · 13/07/2025 21:06

Harry and Meghan’s wedding could have been low key.

Tetbury, the parish church for Highgrove, was suggested. Or they could have had a much smaller ceremony at Windsor, without the celeb guests and the tiara and the veil. Or I daresay they could have got married at Sandringham or Crathie if they had wanted.

I like a royal wedding and I enjoyed watching H&M's, but nobody forced them to have a wedding they didn't want.

MaturingCheeseball · 13/07/2025 21:11

Yes, I am interested in the view of Supporters. Is crawling back to - or even collaborating with - the royal family a positive step in your opinions?

CitizenZ · 13/07/2025 21:13

I don't see any chance of reconciliation. They sold out the Royal Family for profit and destroyed any remaining trust. Outside of the Sussex Squad, they're widely disliked. And even that group has turned everything into a circus, spreading lies, trolling Kate over her cancer diagnosis, and more. I doubt Meghan is reckless enough to return to the UK, so maybe Harry is just sending his envoy to ask for money or assurance of titles to remain after the King has passed?

Butteredtoast55 · 13/07/2025 21:21

On a human level, I hope the King and Harry are able to rebuild a relationship. But if I were any other member of that family I wouldn't trust the Sussexes as far as I could throw them.

Wundy · 13/07/2025 21:23

itcontinuesforever · 13/07/2025 20:58

@Wundy what do you get from posting on this board? Genuine question.

I'm interested in the whole situation between H & M and the BRF. I find H & M (nore so M) and their actions/behaviours fascinating.

I like William and Kate but can also see that some of the criticism thrown their way is fair.

And, see my previous post, to see why I like Charles.

You?

Bontonbonbon · 13/07/2025 21:23

i’ve had a think and I reckon this might be their way of paving the way for them to make trips back to the U.K. as a family without coping a lot
of flak. The narrative will be spun that they have made amends with Charles and therefore it is fine for them to swan about the Cotswolds like Ellen.

Lots of La celebs have moved to the U.K. over the last six months. I wonder if Meghan now regrets slamming the door so hard.

Not2identifying · 13/07/2025 21:28

Wundy · 13/07/2025 21:23

I'm interested in the whole situation between H & M and the BRF. I find H & M (nore so M) and their actions/behaviours fascinating.

I like William and Kate but can also see that some of the criticism thrown their way is fair.

And, see my previous post, to see why I like Charles.

You?

Yes that's a good description of my attitude to the different royals as well. They all have strengths and weaknesses but H & M provide the most entertainment!

JSMill · 13/07/2025 21:29

Bontonbonbon · 13/07/2025 20:53

Harry and Meghan’s wedding could have been low key. They aren’t important. They won’t ever be a head of state. William will.

Alt the public was definitely looking forward to the wedding, it certainly did not have to be on the scale it was. They filled that chapel up with people they didn’t even know. Call me old fashioned, but I really don’t think a divorced woman should be marching up the aisle in a whiter than white dress. She didn’t go for the traditional look first time around.

Vespanest · 13/07/2025 21:30

There has to be a disconnect with those supporters (not directed at anyone on here) who have taken the team rivalry to a them versus "the institution". It's a matter of pride to inform how their champions have escaped the cruelty of the royal family. Often ignoring the repeated pleading of Harry for reconciliation. Especially the US supporters and those who view the royal family as racists. How the hell does Harry attempt to stop the social media of him straddling two worlds if he was allowed in. With their supporters Harry and Meghan have done a good job of othering, I'm not sure how this can be dismantled, certainly not in a time frame that Harry would want.

upinaballoon · 13/07/2025 21:41

JSMill · 13/07/2025 21:29

Alt the public was definitely looking forward to the wedding, it certainly did not have to be on the scale it was. They filled that chapel up with people they didn’t even know. Call me old fashioned, but I really don’t think a divorced woman should be marching up the aisle in a whiter than white dress. She didn’t go for the traditional look first time around.

I looked forward to it and watched it. I'll call you old-fashioned, if you like. You're old-fashioned. Don't you know every old tart in the world wears a glistening white dress nowadays? Virginity's not the in thing any more. It's not like when grandma was married in 1910. I'll give Meghan her due. Her dress was modest. She had to march up the aisle in white because she was being Maria from the 'Sound of Music' that day.
I thought that there's a law that says divorced women should wear blue suits if they re-marry,

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 21:46

Vespanest · 13/07/2025 21:30

There has to be a disconnect with those supporters (not directed at anyone on here) who have taken the team rivalry to a them versus "the institution". It's a matter of pride to inform how their champions have escaped the cruelty of the royal family. Often ignoring the repeated pleading of Harry for reconciliation. Especially the US supporters and those who view the royal family as racists. How the hell does Harry attempt to stop the social media of him straddling two worlds if he was allowed in. With their supporters Harry and Meghan have done a good job of othering, I'm not sure how this can be dismantled, certainly not in a time frame that Harry would want.

It can only be because Harry is too stupid to comprehend the gravity of what he’s done.

I know this is hard to believe- but this is a person who thought the contents of Spare and the allegations made to OW (and lots of other stuff) would not shake the world in the way they have. I don’t understand how he can think his family or most people in the UK would think it was allOK, but somehow Harry does.

He is really not a bright man. And in his situation that makes him dangerous, as the Duke of Windsor was - he’s prey to all kinds of manipulation and malign influence.

twinklystar23 · 13/07/2025 21:52

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 20:39

They didn’t ungratefully and ungraciously rubbish their wedding afterwards, sneering at it by calling it a spectacle for the public.

They are just a way classier act than the Montecito Moaners.

Even if W&C had felt entitled to their big day. They had the good grace.

  1. Not to rub it in the face of british taxpayers, with the further insult that "they were already married" a lie that the AoC had to come out on public record to deny.
2 it demonstrates a complete contempt of british people and takes us for some kind of collective fools.
  1. W&C made neither of these claims, any criticism of the cost of their wedding would only be for other reasons, not for the same issues M.M comments raise, as in my two points above.
Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2025 21:56

Bontonbonbon · 13/07/2025 21:23

i’ve had a think and I reckon this might be their way of paving the way for them to make trips back to the U.K. as a family without coping a lot
of flak. The narrative will be spun that they have made amends with Charles and therefore it is fine for them to swan about the Cotswolds like Ellen.

Lots of La celebs have moved to the U.K. over the last six months. I wonder if Meghan now regrets slamming the door so hard.

BUT ……security !!? Is the U.K. not far too dangerous for the Sussex family ?

twinklystar23 · 13/07/2025 22:00

Meant to tag Spectre8

CitizenZ · 13/07/2025 22:03

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 21:46

It can only be because Harry is too stupid to comprehend the gravity of what he’s done.

I know this is hard to believe- but this is a person who thought the contents of Spare and the allegations made to OW (and lots of other stuff) would not shake the world in the way they have. I don’t understand how he can think his family or most people in the UK would think it was allOK, but somehow Harry does.

He is really not a bright man. And in his situation that makes him dangerous, as the Duke of Windsor was - he’s prey to all kinds of manipulation and malign influence.

Harry does appear staggeringly naive about the fallout of his choices. Whether it was 'spare', the Oprah interview, or the ongoing public criticisms of his family, he has demonstrated a consistent inability to anticipate how these moves would alienate not just his relatives but the public at large. For someone raised within the royal ecosystem, it’s baffling that he seems so unaware of the cultural and emotional significance the monarchy still holds for many people.

His actions suggest not just stupidity, but a stubbornness and self-righteousness that blinds him to nuance. He seems to genuinely believe he can "speak his truth" without consequence.

NewAgeNewMe · 13/07/2025 22:06

I wonder how the Sussex fans will try and spin a reconciliation (if there is one) and what will happen once William is king, that day is coming at some point, but hopefully not for a while yet.

Spectre8 · 13/07/2025 22:15

Wundy · 13/07/2025 20:54

@Spectre8 what do you get out of posting on this board? Genuine question.

You're apparently not a fan of H & M but seem to spend quite some time defending them. I say "defending", but in the main, your posts are "whataboutery" (think I may have spelt that wrong!)

You don't often put forward any actual arguments or information that would lead me to change my mind about H and M, and you rarely accept any criticism, no matter how mild, about them. Is there anything at all they have done that you disapprove of? What would they need to do for you to stop defending them?

I mean, you defend who you like obviously, but what's in it for you? If you're the sort of person who doesn't like seeing injustice/unfairness, there are scores of other, more deserving, people and causes you could be advocating for.

I'm not meaning to attack you or be rude at all - I actually find you and your stance quite interesting and am curious!

Am I defending them? They left, I dont have a peovlem with thay. They wanted half in half out and I don't have an issue with it or wanting to make their own money. I don't have an issue with their business endeavours to date, why would I? She wants to sell some things okay good for her, crack on. It has zero impact to my life.

Why is interesting is people here acting all pious about truth and facts and then they themselves making up lies. Or those go on about how awful they did this hut if you ask them what if someone else did it well thats okay apparently. The hypcrocrisy of many posters on here thats what I find interesting

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