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BreadInCaptivity · 13/07/2025 18:47

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 18:38

@BreadInCaptivity

Idon’t think it’s In Meghan’s nature to make personal sacrifices for others - not even her husband. That’s what other people are there for.

I think it’s fair to say it’s not something that’s easily historically evidenced….

But as I posted below, circumstances change and my personal view is that their situation may potentially quite tenuous in terms of H’s wellbeing and their finances.

Options may be quite limited and as much as posters are suggesting “Arm Candy” men of such wealth have a plethora of women to pick their dating pool from and I can’t see (as beautiful as she is) anyone wanting the baggage and propensity for self publicity.

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 18:52

BreadInCaptivity · 13/07/2025 18:47

I think it’s fair to say it’s not something that’s easily historically evidenced….

But as I posted below, circumstances change and my personal view is that their situation may potentially quite tenuous in terms of H’s wellbeing and their finances.

Options may be quite limited and as much as posters are suggesting “Arm Candy” men of such wealth have a plethora of women to pick their dating pool from and I can’t see (as beautiful as she is) anyone wanting the baggage and propensity for self publicity.

Yes - I certainly can’t see why a mega-wealthy man would marry her. Her record of indiscretion, publicity-seeking and her complicated baggage would be off-putting and (in that shallow world) she’ll be late forties soon - a crime in Hollywood, I’m sure!

IdaGlossop · 13/07/2025 18:59

flapjackfairy · 13/07/2025 18:37

The Sussex camp are denying they leaked the story...trouble is they have told so many porkies who knows whether anyone can believe that or not.

'No, we played no part in the writing of 'Finding Freedeom'.'

twinklystar23 · 13/07/2025 19:00

Wundy · 13/07/2025 16:54

If, in the (hopefully) unlikely event, of H and M returning, what would public response actually look like? Many people, myself included, aren't especially keen to have them back, but I've seen various remarks along the lines of "there'd be uproar", "the public wouldn't have it" etc.

But how would this "refusal to have it" look? How would it play out? Would there be demonstrations? Or the opposite - people declining to turn out to events like Trooping the Colour etc?

Also I don't like either of them, but I do get a bit fed up of people blaming Harry for not preparing Meghan for life as a royal.

-Firstly, she was in her 30's so not some young ingenue who'd never heard of the British Royal Family. In fact, we know for sure that she definitely HAD heard of them.

-Secondly, she's supposedly very bright. But not bright enough to do research? She wasn't marrying in to the Davies family from down the road. So even if she had never heard of the BRF, surely she'd have researched.

-Potentially there's a limit to what she could have found out doing research. So she didn't think to ask her new boyfriend questions? We all do that in new relationships - we ask about our new partner's family, whether they get on with their siblings, where they go on holiday. And when we get invited to meet them for the first time we ask who'll be there, what do I wear, what shall I say, is there anything I need to know etc.

I know the BRF aren't your average family so there'd be lots of obscure traditions and weird ways of doing stuff - but you'd ASK! How can it possibly be that your partner is the son of the Prince of Wales and you don't go "Omg! What?! Tell me all about it"?

Im not exonerating him completely - of course he should've thought of preparing her - but I can't get on board with this narrative of Harry didn't tell her.

She has a degree in international relations.

I am also interested in the point that the monarch has some jurisdiction over their grandchildren. Will have to look that up unless other posters know more with regards to this. Recall some of the issues when the Yorks divorced and the Queen could intervene on mqtters with B&E. It would also be interseting as Archie is a British citizen having been born here whilst Lilli is American though dual citizenship would apply.

Anyhow, back to the the thread. I would have misgivings of their return simply from the cost to taxpayers, which i think is the main motivation.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 13/07/2025 19:01

Foolsgold74 · 13/07/2025 17:21

I think plenty of people/organisations would still want him. They want a bit of royal fairy dust regardless of who brings it. Not everyone cares about a professional, respectable, serious representation. It might not be as high profile as before but there's supermarkets in Skegness that wouldn't say no to old Harry cutting the ribbon.

@Foolsgold74 there are supermarkets in skegness which have vacancies for shelf stockers too!! they could both work minimum wage and unsocial hours!!!

MargaretThursday · 13/07/2025 19:03

flapjackfairy · 13/07/2025 18:37

The Sussex camp are denying they leaked the story...trouble is they have told so many porkies who knows whether anyone can believe that or not.

The very point they're thinking it needs to be denied really implicates them. And shows that they're watching the press/internet to see how the meeting was taken.

"No, your honour, I'm definitely a rabbit..."

IdaGlossop · 13/07/2025 19:08

twinklystar23 · 13/07/2025 19:00

She has a degree in international relations.

I am also interested in the point that the monarch has some jurisdiction over their grandchildren. Will have to look that up unless other posters know more with regards to this. Recall some of the issues when the Yorks divorced and the Queen could intervene on mqtters with B&E. It would also be interseting as Archie is a British citizen having been born here whilst Lilli is American though dual citizenship would apply.

Anyhow, back to the the thread. I would have misgivings of their return simply from the cost to taxpayers, which i think is the main motivation.

For me, two things have cooked their goose: insulting the entire population of the UK by M telling Oprah Winfrey that their £32m wedding wasn't actually a wedding but just for show, and H saying nothing when Mmocked QEII with her shameful curtsey for Netflix. In the end, the institution wins out over family. On that basis, they will not be returning.

So much good will thrown away. Hey, H, about 'Spaff' as the title for your second volume?

Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2025 19:20

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 18:52

Yes - I certainly can’t see why a mega-wealthy man would marry her. Her record of indiscretion, publicity-seeking and her complicated baggage would be off-putting and (in that shallow world) she’ll be late forties soon - a crime in Hollywood, I’m sure!

No way would Meghan want to lose her title by remarrying .

MrsLeonFarrell · 13/07/2025 19:20

The fact the Sussex camp is denying they leaked makes it more likely that they did, imo.

twinklystar23 · 13/07/2025 19:25

IdaGlossop · 13/07/2025 19:08

For me, two things have cooked their goose: insulting the entire population of the UK by M telling Oprah Winfrey that their £32m wedding wasn't actually a wedding but just for show, and H saying nothing when Mmocked QEII with her shameful curtsey for Netflix. In the end, the institution wins out over family. On that basis, they will not be returning.

So much good will thrown away. Hey, H, about 'Spaff' as the title for your second volume?

Yes the bloody wedding that we paid for the entitlement really did it for me. They surely could have insisted on a private low key wedding as Beatrice had during Covid. The money it cost that could have been spent to benefit so many people who need it.

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 19:27

twinklystar23 · 13/07/2025 19:25

Yes the bloody wedding that we paid for the entitlement really did it for me. They surely could have insisted on a private low key wedding as Beatrice had during Covid. The money it cost that could have been spent to benefit so many people who need it.

Absolute peak narcissism- insisting on a massive fuss being made of you, then pretending you never wanted any of it (cfAmanda in Motherland)!

AtIusvue · 13/07/2025 19:36

According to the telegraph, Sussex team saying they didn’t leak the info

Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2025 19:40

AtIusvue · 13/07/2025 19:36

According to the telegraph, Sussex team saying they didn’t leak the info

Well I suppose the NY based photographer could just have been passing the building and just happened to look up and see 3 people on a balcony . He then could have thought hmm I recognise these people even from a distance . I wonder what’s going on here ?
What a stroke of luck !

OlympicWomen · 13/07/2025 19:40

AtIusvue · 13/07/2025 19:36

According to the telegraph, Sussex team saying they didn’t leak the info

They would say that, wouldn't they?

onehorserace · 13/07/2025 19:49

AtIusvue · 13/07/2025 19:36

According to the telegraph, Sussex team saying they didn’t leak the info

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Weepixie · 13/07/2025 19:49

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 18:45

I was just thinking - the very existence of the Sussex Squad ought to be a serious obstacle to any reconciliation. The existence of this baying, semi-criminal online mob, which H and M have never condemned or even criticised, and sometimes openly supported, is not compatible with them re establishing official contact with the RF.

In a nutshell!!!

Not2identifying · 13/07/2025 19:55

I will join the queue to apologise to Giveme[GreekproductIcan'trememberthenameof]. I greatly enjoy her posts but thought, for the first time, that she'd got this one very wrong.

Bontonbonbon · 13/07/2025 19:59

The wedding not of the Oprah interview really did it for me too. She didn’t have to have that many bridesmaids. She didn’t have to invite all those celebs. She didn’t have to have such an expensive dress. If she really hated it all then it could have been done much more cheaply and simply.

But she didn’t hate it all. She loved it. It was her Princess Kate moment and she wanted it. To pretend otherwise is childish. She must believe we are all idiots.

Wundy · 13/07/2025 20:26

Thanks for the replies and opinions.

I can't find the post now but someone sa

Wundy · 13/07/2025 20:33

Oops sorry - went off too soon!

Soneone said they'd feel let down by Charles if he allowed H back, and daft as it sounds, this is how I'd feel too.

My late Dh was a staunch republican for most of his adult life. Then it came to a point where he had to work on a project in which Charles was heavily involved. After their first meeting, he begrudgingly admitted to having liked him but felt maybe that was because Charles had been on a charm offensive.

As the weeks went on, he admitted to liking him more. And then to respecting him and his opinion. And finally, to looking forward to their meetings.

I would sort of somehow, stupidly, feel that I would be letting dh down, if Charles did accept H and M back into the fold, and I was ok with it! That probably only makes sense in my own head though!

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 20:34

NautilusLionfish · 12/07/2025 23:48

@RainbowBagels
Really, if Charles was any kind of father he wouldn't give a shit what the public thought if he wanted to try and see his son and grandchildren before he died.

Where do you get this kind of wisdom. 😎😁
Yeah Charles doesn't understand that without him acting like a father first and a public adoration hungry king last, his legacy is tarnished. 40 years from now people will judge him more harshly for not putting his son and grand kids before publicity.

No-one will remember or care about Harry 40 years from now. They’ll know about KC because he was the king. Harry has made himself irrelevant and is hugely unpopular nowadays.

Harry rejected his royal heritage and sold his family for dollars. He’s panicking now, but I see no way back for the dim ex-prince.

Spectre8 · 13/07/2025 20:35

twinklystar23 · 13/07/2025 19:25

Yes the bloody wedding that we paid for the entitlement really did it for me. They surely could have insisted on a private low key wedding as Beatrice had during Covid. The money it cost that could have been spent to benefit so many people who need it.

So you think William and Katr should also have a toned down wedding?

IcedPurple · 13/07/2025 20:37

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 20:34

No-one will remember or care about Harry 40 years from now. They’ll know about KC because he was the king. Harry has made himself irrelevant and is hugely unpopular nowadays.

Harry rejected his royal heritage and sold his family for dollars. He’s panicking now, but I see no way back for the dim ex-prince.

10 or even 5 years from now, many will be only vaguely aware that Charles has another son and William has a brother.

Being the 'spare' is really such a great gig. Nearly all the perks of royalty with few of the responsibilities. He gave up all that for a walk on role in his wife's twerking video?

LivelyMintViper · 13/07/2025 20:38

Spectre8 · 13/07/2025 20:35

So you think William and Katr should also have a toned down wedding?

The only way your comment would make sense is if William and Kate had publicly stated they hadn't wanted the state level wedding and were already married anyway.

CoffeeCantata · 13/07/2025 20:39

Spectre8 · 13/07/2025 20:35

So you think William and Katr should also have a toned down wedding?

They didn’t ungratefully and ungraciously rubbish their wedding afterwards, sneering at it by calling it a spectacle for the public.

They are just a way classier act than the Montecito Moaners.

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