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Natasha Archer’s Instagram Following

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tataler · 11/07/2025 09:17

I’m somewhat fascinated by the instagram following of Kate’s former stylist and personal assistant of 15 years.

Understandable to monitor fashion blogs like whatmeghanwore but what’s the interest in Heather Dorak or Daniel Martin?

She even followed Meghan and asever before hastily unfollowing - why hide now?

Perhaps part of her new luxury fashion consultancy is keeping tabs on in-laws friends and associates.

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Raystar · 12/07/2025 17:20

NormaMajors1992coat · 12/07/2025 17:16

Well stalking has a definition in law and I’m pretty sure that following public social media accounts isn’t it.

I’m not blaming Diana at all - sorry if that wasn’t clear - I think her death was a terrible accident. I suppose if you are really keen on apportioning blame then the drunk driver was most at fault. I can’t see how the British media can be held responsible at all. I am blaming you though, for repeatedly posting inflammatory and ridiculous lies.

Let’s keep the conversation grounded.
First, yes, stalking has a legal definition in law, that doesn’t mean obsessive monitoring, targeted harassment, or coordinated online campaigns can’t be abusive or harmful just because they happen on public platforms. The law isn’t the only lens through which we should view behavior, especially when we’re talking about mass media and social pressure. Theres stalking used in personal qnd psychological terms too, for a start, lets not cherry pick here.

Second, I’m glad you clarified that you’re not blaming Diana, but to say the British media holds no responsibility for the conditions that led to her death is simply not accurate. The paparazzi were literally chasing the car. Even investigations acknowledged their involvement, and the public backlash against media intrusion after her death speaks volumes. The drunk driver was of course responsible in a direct legal sense, but let’s not pretend the press’s relentless pursuit and hounding over years didn’t contribute to the tragedy.
Finally, accusing me of spreading “inflammatory and ridiculous lies” feels like an attempt to shut down uncomfortable truths.

If you disagree with a point, challenge it with fact, not personal attacks. I’m here to have a conversation, not a shouting or blaming match with people whose I dont know personally. Let’s keep things respectful and rooted in reality.

NormaMajors1992coat · 12/07/2025 17:25

Spectre8 · 12/07/2025 16:43

You dont think she is? I mean this board here do enough od that with a nee thread for every tiny thing she does. Kate is at tennis today, so far noone has started up a thread here. If this was Meghan there would of been already half filled up with nasty comments aboitbwhaf she is wearing and so forth. So I would tend to agree with comment this time.

I must admit I take those claims with a pinch of salt because a) they lie about so much else; b) people never seem able to back up the claims - eg PP lying about British journalists calling for Meghan to be lynched; and c) they seem compelled to embellish / exaggerate / fabricate evidence of such claims - eg Oprah making up headlines and H+M pretending that press interest in Katie Price and a 2011 Harry Potter premiere was something to do with them. Which suggests to me that there just isn’t any actual evidence 🤷‍♀️

Raystar · 12/07/2025 17:29

NormaMajors1992coat · 12/07/2025 17:25

I must admit I take those claims with a pinch of salt because a) they lie about so much else; b) people never seem able to back up the claims - eg PP lying about British journalists calling for Meghan to be lynched; and c) they seem compelled to embellish / exaggerate / fabricate evidence of such claims - eg Oprah making up headlines and H+M pretending that press interest in Katie Price and a 2011 Harry Potter premiere was something to do with them. Which suggests to me that there just isn’t any actual evidence 🤷‍♀️

At some point, continuing to deny clear, documented facts stops being skepticism, and starts becoming willful ignorance or, frankly, something more malicious.

There’s a mountain of evidence showing how Meghan was treated, from racist headlines to double standards in coverage and it’s been backed by journalists, academics, and human rights organizations. Pretending that none of it exists, or that it’s all made up, isn’t just disingenuous, it’s enabling a narrative that actively erases the harm done.

We can disagree on interpretations, but facts are facts. And denying them while people are still suffering from the consequences isn’t just dishonest, it’s harmful.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/07/2025 17:31

Yes, Meghan may not have been seen “upskirted” (a clothe that her stylist could har prevented by putting the correct weight)

Funny how you got all indignant about a poster “blaming” Diana for not wearing a seatbelt yet it’s Kate or her stylist’s fault for her being upskirted. True colours alert.

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2025 17:31

Raystar · 12/07/2025 17:14

I’m not denying that Catherine experienced harassment from the paparazzi, especially in her early years—that behavior was appalling, and no woman should have to endure it. But let’s not pretend Meghan didn’t face abuse too, or that what she went through was somehow less valid just because it looked different.

Yes, Meghan may not have been seen “upskirted” (a clothe that her stylist could har prevented by putting the correct weight) or photographed topless (thankfully), but she was subjected to relentless racism, death threats, and dehumanizing headlines from mainstream outlets, not just paparazzi. She was likened to a monkey, accused of making people cry when it was the reverse, and vilified for doing things Catherine was praised for like cradling her baby bump or eating avocado. A madman publicly fantasized about her being paraded naked and humiliated. That kind of targeted hatred is unprecedented in the modern royal era.

The “two to three years” argument also ignores the fact that Meghan and Harry left because the abuse was so constant and brutal, it was driving her to suicidal thoughts. How long someone endures mistreatment doesn’t determine its severity.
So yes, both women suffered in different ways. But dismissing Meghan’s treatment, or insisting Catherine’s was somehow worse, is just shifting the goalposts. We should be able to acknowledge that both were mistreated, while also recognizing the specific and deeply racialized nature of what Meghan endured.

Also, I’d really appreciate it if we could keep this discussion respectful. Personal attacks and conspiracy like assumptions about people’s intentions don’t help the conversation and come off as unnecessarily aggressive or unhinged. We can chat without being hostile.

There are as the youngsters say now , receipts for every single thing I’ve pointed out .

the level and abuse Catherine faced every time she left the house ( for years ) exceeded what any other royal faced .
this wasn’t harassment it was plain abuse!

and I forgot to add ! Catherine’s phone was hacked twice as many times as Williams and four times the amount of Harry’s.

where are your receipts? , even Oprah couldn’t manage to provide them , it’s why they had to use foreign papers for the headlines.
and Netflix used a Harry Potter premiere and Katy prices court entrance for paparazzi footage.

NormaMajors1992coat · 12/07/2025 17:32

Raystar · 12/07/2025 17:20

Let’s keep the conversation grounded.
First, yes, stalking has a legal definition in law, that doesn’t mean obsessive monitoring, targeted harassment, or coordinated online campaigns can’t be abusive or harmful just because they happen on public platforms. The law isn’t the only lens through which we should view behavior, especially when we’re talking about mass media and social pressure. Theres stalking used in personal qnd psychological terms too, for a start, lets not cherry pick here.

Second, I’m glad you clarified that you’re not blaming Diana, but to say the British media holds no responsibility for the conditions that led to her death is simply not accurate. The paparazzi were literally chasing the car. Even investigations acknowledged their involvement, and the public backlash against media intrusion after her death speaks volumes. The drunk driver was of course responsible in a direct legal sense, but let’s not pretend the press’s relentless pursuit and hounding over years didn’t contribute to the tragedy.
Finally, accusing me of spreading “inflammatory and ridiculous lies” feels like an attempt to shut down uncomfortable truths.

If you disagree with a point, challenge it with fact, not personal attacks. I’m here to have a conversation, not a shouting or blaming match with people whose I dont know personally. Let’s keep things respectful and rooted in reality.

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I’m not sure which “uncomfortable truths” you think I’m trying to shut down? That British journalists called for Meghan to be lynched, as you anlleged earlier? But it was a lie, right?

Fyi as you appear not to know, Diana died in Paris. The paparazzi following her car were French.

Now waiting to read how it was the British media’s fault that French photographers followed her car.. presumably nobody would have heard of the ex PoW, ex wife and mother of the future king, whose wedding was watched by 750M people worldwide, if it wasn’t for the pesky Daily Mail?

NormaMajors1992coat · 12/07/2025 17:35

Raystar · 12/07/2025 17:29

At some point, continuing to deny clear, documented facts stops being skepticism, and starts becoming willful ignorance or, frankly, something more malicious.

There’s a mountain of evidence showing how Meghan was treated, from racist headlines to double standards in coverage and it’s been backed by journalists, academics, and human rights organizations. Pretending that none of it exists, or that it’s all made up, isn’t just disingenuous, it’s enabling a narrative that actively erases the harm done.

We can disagree on interpretations, but facts are facts. And denying them while people are still suffering from the consequences isn’t just dishonest, it’s harmful.

Can I ask, why do you think they made up evidence if there is so much of it in existence? They went back to 2011 to find footage from that HP premiere.

Why did you make up the thing about lynching? Why not just use something that actually happened?

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2025 17:36

Oh I’m being very grounded and respectful!
it’s not my fault if the facts don’t align with your opinions.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/07/2025 17:37

There’s a mountain of evidence showing how Meghan was treated, from racist headlines to double standards in coverage and it’s been backed by journalists, academics, and human rights organizations. Pretending that none of it exists, or that it’s all made up, isn’t just disingenuous, it’s enabling a narrative that actively erases the harm done

Using your vernacular, show us your receipts, Oprah had to make the headlines up and produce fake footage of the paparazzi stalking Meghan so it will be interesting to see what you come up with.

NormaMajors1992coat · 12/07/2025 17:38

Also - I appreciate you think I’m nitpicking by mentioning the legal definition, but how does following someone’s public social media account constitute stalking by any definition? 😂

BemusedAmerican · 12/07/2025 17:58

Diana didn't wear a seat belt.

Interestingly, neither did Harry in the alleged NYC cab chase. It's illegal not to wear a seat belt in NYC. Drivers can be ticketed for this in traffic stops. In cabs, you are repeatedly told to buckle up and or have to listen to lots of dings so it was a conscious decision not to buckle up.

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2025 18:03

BemusedAmerican · 12/07/2025 17:58

Diana didn't wear a seat belt.

Interestingly, neither did Harry in the alleged NYC cab chase. It's illegal not to wear a seat belt in NYC. Drivers can be ticketed for this in traffic stops. In cabs, you are repeatedly told to buckle up and or have to listen to lots of dings so it was a conscious decision not to buckle up.

Sorry off topic!
how are you bemused? , everything going ok ?
haven’t seen you recently and remember that you said things were a bit rubbish.

myrtleWilson · 12/07/2025 18:20

how would weights in the hem of her skirt have prevented upskirting anyway?

Does up skirting have a different meaning in the US @Raystar ?

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2025 18:27

myrtleWilson · 12/07/2025 18:20

how would weights in the hem of her skirt have prevented upskirting anyway?

Does up skirting have a different meaning in the US @Raystar ?

Edited

Yes I was wondering myself?
unless you put the weight on the photographers arm?
however seeing as many of these particular photographers actually laid in the gutter trying to get photos not sure if it would work!

NormaMajors1992coat · 12/07/2025 18:33

Maybe wherever @Raystar lives there are different meanings for upskirting, stalking, lynching, British media, facts and reality.

Spectre8 · 12/07/2025 18:35

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2025 17:31

There are as the youngsters say now , receipts for every single thing I’ve pointed out .

the level and abuse Catherine faced every time she left the house ( for years ) exceeded what any other royal faced .
this wasn’t harassment it was plain abuse!

and I forgot to add ! Catherine’s phone was hacked twice as many times as Williams and four times the amount of Harry’s.

where are your receipts? , even Oprah couldn’t manage to provide them , it’s why they had to use foreign papers for the headlines.
and Netflix used a Harry Potter premiere and Katy prices court entrance for paparazzi footage.

Where are your receipts for saying Meghan is a scam artist? Who was scammed? Whose money did she fraudently take? Lets see your evidence

fredscat · 12/07/2025 18:37

Wow what the women who marry prince’s is dreadful.
you would think in this day and age it wouldn’t be a thing still.
strangely it doesn’t happen to the men who marry in.

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2025 18:40

Spectre8 · 12/07/2025 18:35

Where are your receipts for saying Meghan is a scam artist? Who was scammed? Whose money did she fraudently take? Lets see your evidence

Flattered but not interested, sorry

onehorserace · 12/07/2025 18:41

Spectre8 · 12/07/2025 16:43

You dont think she is? I mean this board here do enough od that with a nee thread for every tiny thing she does. Kate is at tennis today, so far noone has started up a thread here. If this was Meghan there would of been already half filled up with nasty comments aboitbwhaf she is wearing and so forth. So I would tend to agree with comment this time.

I think you will see there is discussion of this outfit elsewhere.

onehorserace · 12/07/2025 18:41

fredscat · 12/07/2025 18:37

Wow what the women who marry prince’s is dreadful.
you would think in this day and age it wouldn’t be a thing still.
strangely it doesn’t happen to the men who marry in.

Eh?

Nagginthenag · 12/07/2025 18:41

Raystar · 12/07/2025 16:32

Not true. Please I ask for you not to lie. He named them as far he could along the contrast the media has with the Royal family

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/news/piers-morgan-names-royals-scobie-book-b2456135.html

www.aol.com/prince-harry-meghan-markle-remain-081136346.html

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There's only one person doing the lying on this thread. Even your own link to the Independent states:
'Earlier this week, the broadcaster decided to name the Princess of Wales and King Charles as the two senior royals inadvertently identified in an excerpt from Omid Scobie’s book about the royal racism scandal involving Prince Harry and Meghan Markle in 2021.'
' If Dutch people wandering into a bookshop can see these names, then you, the British people who actually pay for the royal family are entitled to know, too,” Morgan said'

As I said in my post which you accused me of lying in, he named Kate and Charles on the publication of the Dutch version of Spare. By the link you offered yourself.

You're plopping all over this thread with statements and claims which have been debunked, with the receipts you're so keen on, and you're accusing other posters of lying? Get your own house in order.

onehorserace · 12/07/2025 18:42

Meghan was threatened with lynching?

onehorserace · 12/07/2025 18:45

Nagginthenag · 12/07/2025 15:18

There you go again, making stuff up. Morgan confirmed what was published in Scobie's book when it was published in the Netherlands 'by accident' 🙄. Meghan made racism insinuation on Oprah, claiming in an underhand way that the reason her child wasn't titled 'Prince' was because of his colour. Totally untrue, of course, but no apology from Meghan.

Big cow eyes, trembling lip letting others take the bait 🙄

onehorserace · 12/07/2025 18:50

Serenster · 12/07/2025 13:58

I've never seen anyone wishing Kate harm on the other side to that extent

There must be some mistake, surely? Last year they were all falling over themselves with glee at the prospect Kate had been horrendously beaten up by William and was in a coma, having nearly died, after an affair with Lady Gabriella Windsor’s husband - who William had murdered in a fit of rage at discovering their affair.

Even now they are hunting for evidence of scars on Kate’s face in photos of her outings, which they consider to be evidence that William beats her up. They also speculate that she’s more or less under house arrest. When they are not falling over themselves to declare her dangerously anorexic, of course.

I think you read selectively. (And a lot of that tripe made it over to MN last year by the way, despite the wilder conspiracy theories about Meghan generally having absolutely no truck here).

Edited

Yes this went on for months and we still have a poster who refers to Catherine's illness in a dubious way.

Sunnyfox · 12/07/2025 18:58

Spectre8 · 12/07/2025 16:40

Well you can't blame Meghan for what the media did can you. As we know the media go after all the women in the RF whenever they need to fill xoumn inches and make additional revenue through clickbait articles. I hardly see Meghan coordinating this all behind the scenes thats venturing in weird conspiracy theorist rubbish

Exactly. Meghan doesn’t hold any real power in media that’s why she’s constantly attacked. The monarchy, on the other hand, have influence and longstanding relationships with the press in exchange of flattering covering. Well the idea that Meghan was somehow orchestrating anything behind the scenes is not only absurd, it’s pure projection, total lunacy. In truth she is often fighting against the media and suing them. If she were behind forums the topics would be way more flattering.

It’s a deflection tactic, blaming the one without institutional backing while excusing those who actually have the media on their side.

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