Opinions may Vary . A genuine question about why Meghan and Harry seem to attract such differing views.

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I post this more in hope than experience but I would be really interested in a proper discussion about those who are fans or supporters of them , those who aren't and indeed ( of which there are many ) , those who are indifferent.

So - I'll start. There was an interesting post on another thread which said M&H come over as David and Goliath , standing up against "the Institution" - my paraphrase.

No spitting , no fighting , mind the furniture 😂

I think the pro H&M crowd are actually the ones who overreact to the mentions of Meghan in the press and consider simple press SEO tactics as a deliberate attack/campaign against her.

The avocado one is the perfect example - it had absolutely nothing to do with Meghan as a person - it was clearly simply a way to get more eyeballs on a dry story about avocados and the environment at a moment in time when the keywords ‘Meghan Markle’ were very clickworthy.

@CurlewKate That was the newspapers, not people on these boards.

I think people ‘support’ Meghan and Harry for a variety of reasons:

• anti monarchists who have misunderstood their reasons to leaving the royal family and believe that H&M are working to destroy the reputation of the U.K. and royals, which aligns with their own anti monarchist views. Sadly for them, H at least still seems quite keen on having titles and doing stuff all in exchange for tax payer funded security. Not very anti establishment.
• People who see Meghan as a mould breaker who challenged authority and was punished for it. This has been hashed out loads of times. Essentially, it is down to those people if they believe Meghan was disliked for her race rather than her behaviour. I know which one I think it is.
• OG fans with quite personal parasocial relationships with Meghan. These people are the core of the squad. Based on their own testimonies I believe they were essentially groomed my Meghan as teens through love bombing and inappropriate contact. I feel quite sorry for them.

Why would anyone think she could be relied upon to tell the truth ????

Your point is undermined by the fact that the 'pro brigade' tend to indulge in all sorts of conspiracy theories and 'trivial' criticisms of other royals, notably Kate and William.

And btw you're either missing the point or being deliberately obtuse when you mention "the wrong sort of curtsey". What people are criticising is her mocking the queen (yes, that is exactly what she was doing) in the NF whinefest. That was a very nasty thing to do and speaks to her vindictive, meangirl personality.

Yes, possibly. But it’s undeniable that the avocado story had an anti Meghan slant. There were a lot of stories like that.

I think this clarity is such an important reason for protocol.

(And in case any would suggest there is underlying misogyny, there is the longstanding example of her late Majesty with the Duke of Edinburgh always a step behind.)

Nope. Theresa May did the best curtseys.

So? That's just so trivial, why do her fans bother about such nonsense? They should focus on why people really criticise her - her words and actions. They're bad enough.

The victim narrative falls apart in the face of facts. For example, for the hacking, Catherine's phone was hacked 155 times, W 35 times and H 9 times.

If the media was targeting H, he would have been the most hacked, but he was hacked at less than 6% vs Catherine.

The media's goal is to make money and they target all members of the RF and use the most salacious headlines they can muster. The media even uses allusions to the RF when the story has nothing to do with the RF, for example the infamous headline “Queen in brawl at Palace” which was about aggressive Crystal Palace striker Gerry Queen and had nothing whatsoever to do with QE2.

Phone-hacking trial: Kate Middleton 'hacked 155 times'

More lies

I did say it was trivial! Although I have to say I wouldn’t care for “Curlew’s favorite breakfast linked to human rights abuses” being a headline in a national newspaper. All I’m trying to do is what the thread asked-think of ways that Meghan fans might be Meghan fans.

No. I know you said it was trivial. My point being that why do fans concern themselves with trivia, but don't seem to notice her lies and hypocrisy.
That's what I can't understand.

That picture of Theresa May curtsying is appalling!

Poor Theresa. She looked a little ungainly, but it's hardly "appalling"
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I know. It's difficult to keep track.

It’s why Kate goes for the straight spine Bob curtsy - if a camera catches you at any point in the movement you don’t look quite as ungainly - curtsies are designed for long gowns where you don’t see what the legs are actually doing.

Good point!

Maybe because there was/is so very much trivia? And if you’re not in the UK and tuned in to the minutiae of the Establishment and the RF it is much easier to understand-it’s obviously an appalling thing to say without any need for research.

It’s not just the ungainly-ness. She was the Prime Minister!! I seem to remember that William looked a little embarassed…

The prime minister as she was then curtsying to William was jus bizarre

No, there wasn't. That's why "avocado" keeps being dredged up. Plus that BuzzFeed article.
It's not an "appalling thing to say".
If you're not in the UK you have access to all the media and can surely form an opinion based on sound information, not trivia.
It would seem to be very foolish to be fans of someone because someone wrote an article which was a mild criticism of something that perhaps they ate.

So? Her choice. Perhaps she thought it would be correct thing to do? Leave her be.

It's not 'obviously appalling' to me. It's just a silly clickbaity headline, like any number of others referencing a famous name to create buzz around a rather dull story.

The question, as @MadeInGrimsby above has asked, is why would anyone care?

Reasonable guesses I suppose, seeing as you have absolutely no idea why people like or support H & M.

We're all different.
You feel sorry for Meghan supporters.
I feel sorry for people who seem to need to criticise her year in, year out.

Time to get a life maybe......

Oh come on! “Meghan Markle’s favorite snack fuelling drought and murders” was the Mail headline-I just looked it up!