The marching of the Kings californian grandkids

[Thedom]

Wish I could go back and find all those posters who predicted a Kardashian-esqe social media blitz at some point in H&M's future, wonder where are all the posters who we're so affronted by the very idea of that.

People magazine and all, the uber celeb magazine.

I guess needs must with the downfall of her business efforts, \oh look, here are my kids whose privacy we have decided to forego for the greater good of taking the heat off what a crap business woman I am'.

Literally no-one is 'starting on the children'

The Grand Old Duke of York had ten thousand men. They did the marching.

I think children should be off limits. I think if H&M are desperate for celebrity and constantly want to be in the headlines, that's their choice. Good luck to them. However, there is a line being crossed now with the frequent involvement of the children. You'll argue that their faces are partially obscured, but that's not the point. This is a couple who have made moral pronouncements on children and social media, yet here they are, using Archie and Lilibet for their self promotion.
I won't comment on the children's appearance, but they are putting them out there, and it's not good. Isn't this exactly what Harry has moaned about for years?
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I’ve seen the whole video now, not just the photo on the balcony in isolation. It is a summer dress, she’s wearing it when she meets the Disney princess. So I was wrong. I guess there’s a first time for everything. 🤭

Its giving a 'Peter Andre and family in OK magazine' feel. Imagine having mountains of wealth already and sacrificing everything; dignity, family, respect, privacy, peace of mind etc, in the greedy desperate attempt to claw in more.

That's the path they've chosen, isn't it, Maggie? It's hard to come back from, and once you start monetising the family, it's just going to get easier to just sell your "lifestyle".

The security they need (because of plenty of nutters around) would cost millions a year

Harry wants sympathy because his choices in life are limited by who he was born. That's true - it IS harder for him to live anonymously (not that they try) and if he was just posting a family pic as Billy Nobody nobody would care.

But... We all have constraints on our choices from birth! My husband lost his dad as a little boy. My older siblings were victims of domestic abuse. My mum had MH problems, and tragically, none of us are millionaires.

After a certain point, unless the experiences are very severe, you have to buck up and accept the past, leave it behind, and do your best.

Yes, they will need significant security for the foreseeable future. They have chosen to have very high profile lives, sharing a good deal of their privacy. They're also controversial, and people like that do attract those with negative intent.
I think as they're sharing family life and private moments, it would be wise to beef up security. It's not cheap, though but they have made many millions over the last few years from their Royal connections.

If they had gone away and lived quietly, no NF, no Spare, no Oprah, no ‘catastrophic car chase’ then arguably the need for security would have lessened as they wouldn’t have been so prominent. Wonder if that ever crosses Harry’s mind?

That's the problem, @TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis We just have to deal with the cards we're dealt. Some people are more fortunate than others, that's just the way it is. I find those who have faced challenges very inspirational, like Malala Yousafzai. I was also reading about a Yazidi woman who was made a slave in the Islamist state, and what she went through. Such courage and determination.

It is a bit embarrassing that she sold out her husband and kid’s birth rights and place in a dynasty so that she could be properly Instagram famous. That’s what it comes down to. They left so Meghan could merch herself and their titles fully on social media, like some desperate starlet.

Lots of us said this when they left but were told we were wrong. Harry and Meghan were shining philanthropist, unlike the stuffy RF they understood and cared about real people and they wanted a life of service which had been cruelly denied to them. And now they were off to live a simple life in privacy to do good things.

Here we are five years later and she is back to desperately merching family trips on Instagram like Ruby Franke.

She’s not even properly Instagram famous!

I have just been reading about the “ Defiant Duchess “ who doesn’t care what people in the U.K. think of her . And hates the U.K. etc.
It never fails to amaze me that someone who hates a place and its inhabitants clings on so desperately to a title bestowed by the Monarch of that hated place.

Quite, @Mylovelygreendress . She ought to remind herself of her extraordinary wedding, and how the crowds turned out to support and cheer. She was happy enough to get the benefit of our support, and our tax money, when it suited her.
Oh, and those precious titles.

I see that the latest As Ever product is to be wine.

If her new target demographic is Instahuns then she’s going to have to do a deal with Target.

Wow! Wine. She has gone properly Cali celeb hun. Lifestyle/ wine brands and a total focus on herself.

Where is the icon Meghan that sugars have been selling us all these years? The one who apparently is this ultra feminist philanthropist who is whip smart and ready to stand up for world injustice.

It was just a face she was wearing to slip through the bars of the RF, collect everything she needed for fame and then gallop off into the sunset to be famous in the way she wanted: California Famous.

I still do no understand why people laid these two as being mould breakers. They are the most whiny, basic people. They voluntarily live in a huge mansion, serve no one but themselves and wear wall to wall beige. Beyond their royal titles they are mid to totally boring people with nothing to offer anyone.

I see that the latest As Ever product is to be wine.

Is she promoting a Californian wine from a local vineyard? There would be some point to that. Having the growers as guests on WLM might actually be interesting.

Or is she just slapping her label on some plonk sitting in a warehouse somewhere?

I see the script for the Squad to follow is how HAPPY the Sussexes are, the are LIVING THEIR BEST LIVES, those children are BLESSED and having SUCH FUN, JOYOUS HAPPY FILLED lives unlike those others who are mired in fuddy protocol and are MISERABLE and have never been on FUN holidays like Disneyland. NEVER.

Cue comparison photos of the Disneyland trip and photos of the Wales' on the BP balcony looking solemn while GSTK is playing.

Oh, and the usual bollox about it being preferable to "cold, damp castles" 😂😂

Where is the icon Meghan that sugars have been selling us all these years? The one who apparently is this ultra feminist philanthropist who is whip smart and ready to stand up for world injustice.

That's the thing that amuses me too.

5 years ago we were told that she was just too good for the stuffy royals. Too much of a woman of substance. She wasn't going to be some 'silenced' Stepford Wife like Kate. No, Duchess Meghan had a voice and was going to use it! To promote the type of progressive, controversial causes she had been 'forbidden' to do by 'the palace'.

And look at her now. Twerking for likes on Instagram. Using her children (partially obscured faces or no) for attention. With her friends applauding at all because it supposedly 'annoys' random unknowns on the interwebs.

What a trajectory.

Where is the icon Meghan that sugars have been selling us all these years? The one who apparently is this ultra feminist philanthropist who is whip smart and ready to stand up for world injustice.

It was just a face she was wearing to slip through the bars of the RF, collect everything she needed for fame and then gallop off into the sunset to be famous in the way she wanted: California Famous.

Just a reminder of what Meghan published on The Tig in 2016, about a week before her relationship with Harry was made public (I know, what a coincidence! Just before the world finds out who she is she’s out there burnishing her philanthropic credentials…) . I think the pendulum has swung quite a bit further to the excess side now she’s picked the Hollywood life….

It was just last year that I was in the van heading back from Gihembe refugee camp in Rwanda. I was in the country as an advocate for UN Women…. Driving back on the dusty roads that day, now back on the grid of tech and Hollywood, I received an email from my managers with a request for me to attend the BAFTAs. I had never been and had always romanticized the idea of it – and per the email, a high end jewelry company was going to fly me in, get me dolled up in the fanciest of gowns, and I would travel straight from Kigali to Heathrow, to the makeup chair, and immediately onto the red carpet.

My brain, heart, spirit couldn’t shift gears that quickly – from the purpose-driven work I had been doing all week in Rwanda, to the glitz and glamour of an award show – plus the pomp and circumstance that comes with it. “No,” my heart said. And it wasn’t a soft whisper to myself; it was a lion’s roar. … My gut said, “No.” While my two worlds can coexist, I’ve learned that for me, being able to keep a foot in both is a delicate balance – because while they are not mutually exclusive, guiding my heart though the swinging pendulum from excess to lack of access is sometimes challenging.

Yes, fascinating how it's all turned out.

Based on his other answers, "why should he?" seems to be his reasoning.

He should be as public as he wants to be, live in luxury if he wants to, make political statements if he wants to, and not expect any pushback, security, acclaim and full finance guaranteed.

I'd be fascinated to know @Serenster what high end jewellery company wanted to use her.

The BAFTAs are huge, there is no way a C list actress, who's TV show career was ending would have refused to be flown to and be seen at the British Oscars.

It would have been the biggest awards show she had ever been invited to at that point. She was never even at the Emmys before.

There is no way she turned down a legitimate invitation. I call total BS to that little story.