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The royal family

How can Harry be so deluded?

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HiRen · 04/06/2025 17:38

The paranoia deepens

I don't really know what to conclude from this other than that Harry must feel the victim of a deep state conspiracy. Being a spoilt brat, and not understanding that he's there to serve his country rather than the country being there to serve him, can't help. Even if he did fear strategic delays, why would he jump to the conclusion that specific individuals have it in for him, rather than that there's a bigger picture to consider?

I just can't fathom the depths of misery and confusion he must experience on a daily basis. He must think his whole life was a lie until he met Meghan. I really do think things with Harry are much worse than they seem. Which puts an entirely different, and much darker, gloss on all of Meghan's utterings of her era of joy.

I honestly wouldn't want to be in their orbit. And I wonder whether those who remain in their orbit are desperate, whether as friends or employees. They're too much.

Harry and Meghan explored changing surname to Spencer amid children’s passport delays

Exclusive: source says couple feared unexplained wait was due to king’s opposition to their children bearing HRH title

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jun/04/harry-and-meghan-explored-changing-surname-to-spencer-amid-childrens-passport-delays

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Weepixie · 04/06/2025 21:45

Americano75 · 04/06/2025 21:43

Jesus, how unbelievably nasty. You have literally no idea.

No I’ve no idea. But if you’re going to bring your husbands life experiences into this in order to attack another man then you need to be taking a long hard look in the mirror at yourself.

Just leave your husband out of the conversation. Stop using him as gun to fire your bullet.

Americano75 · 04/06/2025 21:48

Weepixie · 04/06/2025 21:45

No I’ve no idea. But if you’re going to bring your husbands life experiences into this in order to attack another man then you need to be taking a long hard look in the mirror at yourself.

Just leave your husband out of the conversation. Stop using him as gun to fire your bullet.

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No, I pointed out that some people change their surname for very good reasons. It's not difficult. You're the one who needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. You've turned my stomach.

GoldenGirl85 · 04/06/2025 21:48

They did mention how the Royal family PR would fabricate stories and sell them to the press when they were trying to cover up something else. I wonder what the cover up is this time ??

Weepixie · 04/06/2025 21:50

Americano75 · 04/06/2025 21:48

No, I pointed out that some people change their surname for very good reasons. It's not difficult. You're the one who needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. You've turned my stomach.

The feeling is entirely mutual.

Sunholidays · 04/06/2025 21:50

Americano75 · 04/06/2025 21:13

No. I mean like the subject of this thread's father.

I'm sure your DH had very valid reasons for wanting to change his surname.

Did he, like Harry, go to the passport office and say, this is the name in my birth certificate but I'd rather, for personal reasons, have muy passport issued in this other name which I much prefer?

IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 21:51

GoldenGirl85 · 04/06/2025 21:48

They did mention how the Royal family PR would fabricate stories and sell them to the press when they were trying to cover up something else. I wonder what the cover up is this time ??

I guess it could be Harry is trying to distract from his wife shaking her arse in a 4 year old video, but I think he's on to a loser with that.

smilesy · 04/06/2025 21:51

Americano75 · 04/06/2025 21:48

No, I pointed out that some people change their surname for very good reasons. It's not difficult. You're the one who needs to take a long hard look in the mirror. You've turned my stomach.

What has Charles done according to you that was deserving of the expletive you labelled him with? Do you know him and his relationship with his son? Do you have any idea that it bears any similarities to that of your unfortunate husband? Or are you merely projecting?

IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 21:53

Sunholidays · 04/06/2025 21:50

I'm sure your DH had very valid reasons for wanting to change his surname.

Did he, like Harry, go to the passport office and say, this is the name in my birth certificate but I'd rather, for personal reasons, have muy passport issued in this other name which I much prefer?

... while keeping all the titles and styles that go with the original name?

LowDownBoyStandUpGuy · 04/06/2025 21:53

Twatalert · 04/06/2025 21:18

I have no doubt Harry got emotionally abused and neglected. Just to let you know that any form of abuse is 'real abuse' with usually life changing implications. You describe physical abuse, which is just one form of abuse. None is easier or worse than the other. All forms of abuse are horrific.

Did I say it’s not? Nope, have problems reading do you?

I don’t believe that he was abused but neither of us really know do we?

Mylovelygreendress · 04/06/2025 21:54

Weepixie · 04/06/2025 19:36

Going back to something said a few pages ago about a revolving door of Nannie’s - William and Harry only ever had 2 Nannie’s, Olga Powell who was with them for 15 years and Tiggy Legg Bourke who was with them for 6 years.

Barbara Barnes was William’s nanny from very early days . She was with the family for years but Diana became increasingly jealous of her strong bond with the boys .,

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/06/2025 21:54

GoldenGirl85 · 04/06/2025 21:48

They did mention how the Royal family PR would fabricate stories and sell them to the press when they were trying to cover up something else. I wonder what the cover up is this time ??

That deflection would work better if this story had actually originated with the palace but it didn't. It came from Harry.

LowDownBoyStandUpGuy · 04/06/2025 21:55

Again for this post I wish there was still the laughing reaction.

*sorry quote fail!

MrsLeonFarrell · 04/06/2025 21:55

Twatalert · 04/06/2025 21:18

I have no doubt Harry got emotionally abused and neglected. Just to let you know that any form of abuse is 'real abuse' with usually life changing implications. You describe physical abuse, which is just one form of abuse. None is easier or worse than the other. All forms of abuse are horrific.

There is no evidence that Harry was neglected or abused. Despite what he has written having one less sausage than your older brother is not abuse.

Hulabalu · 04/06/2025 21:56

Agree he does look like Charles & strong resemblance with Charles’ Father Prince Philip when he was young man .

Christwosheds · 04/06/2025 22:00

HonoriaBulstrode · 04/06/2025 18:26

I also strongly don't think he actually is Charles' son, but that's a whole other story.

Nonsense.

He strongly resembles both Charles and Philip. Far more so than William does.

Agree with this, he takes after that side of the family, and William looks more like his mother. Harry has the Spencer red hair but is otherwise really like Charles.

MrsSunshine2b · 04/06/2025 22:01

Twatalert · 04/06/2025 19:42

If he uses the press he doesn't get to complain about it. It's like working for a bad employer and complain about it instead of moving on. You can't change your employer and he can't change the press by staying in it.

That's not even slightly correct. Just because you have a high profile doesn't give anyone the right to invade your privacy.

Tigger1895 · 04/06/2025 22:06

IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 20:08

You do know Harry leaked this story to the 'British media'.

Yes?

i wonder who told you that

Madasahattersteaparty1749 · 04/06/2025 22:07

Does anyone think once the Queens cousins die,’there will be a change to have only those direct in line of succession being Prince and Princess, with title also bestowed to the spouse when married to heir or heir apparent ?

The exception being Princess Anne as she is the Princess Royal? Anne’s children don’t use titles and neither do Edward’s.

It would remove Andrew’s HRH Prince Title, his daughters, but also removing Harry’s HRH Prince title and that of his children?

Harry couldn’t claim he was being targeted if everyone else loses their HRH.

Sunholidays · 04/06/2025 22:07

Tigger1895 · 04/06/2025 22:06

i wonder who told you that

The Guardian says so on the article

HonoriaBulstrode · 04/06/2025 22:07

Just because you have a high profile doesn't give anyone the right to invade your privacy.

Someone should have told Harry that before he wrote Spare. And it wasn't only people with a high profile whose privacy he invaded.

Weepixie · 04/06/2025 22:08

Mylovelygreendress · 04/06/2025 21:54

Barbara Barnes was William’s nanny from very early days . She was with the family for years but Diana became increasingly jealous of her strong bond with the boys .,

I’d forgotten about her. She was with them u til William was about 4. But even if there was a 3rd nanny in the mix it hardly makes a revolving door of them.

Sunholidays · 04/06/2025 22:10

HonoriaBulstrode · 04/06/2025 22:07

Just because you have a high profile doesn't give anyone the right to invade your privacy.

Someone should have told Harry that before he wrote Spare. And it wasn't only people with a high profile whose privacy he invaded.

Exactly. That poor woman that he mounted behind a pub as he charmingly put it...

IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 22:11

Tigger1895 · 04/06/2025 22:06

i wonder who told you that

"Sources close to the Duke".

HiRen · 04/06/2025 22:11

IPreacts · 04/06/2025 20:24

Being a spoilt brat, and not understanding that he's there to serve his country rather than the country being there to serve him, can't help

You are not a spoiled brat for not wanting to undertake any role someone else has decided for you before you are born. We as a nation perhaps are a nation of brats for expecting people born into a role to do our bidding.

My Mum was born into a family where she was expected to live with her Morher and serve her mother her whole life. She ran away to escape her fate. Was my Mother a ‘spoilt brat’ not understanding her serving role? I am sure Granny thought so. No same person would though. You might, given your stated view that others can be born to serve you.

No, you're not a spoiled brat for not wanting to undertake any role someone else has decided for your before you are born. As I said upthread, if he'd said he wanted to emigrate and stop working for the RF, most people would have wished him and his family the best and to please come back to visit.

You ARE a spoiled brat if you want all the amazing and often unique perks of a role that you were born into, but undertake none of the accompanying duties. He was a grown man. Until he was told no earlier this year, he STILL wanted the taxpayer of a country he doesn't even live in to fund ad hoc security of the level and sort he wanted. Because he wanted it and thought he knew better than everyone else. THAT is being a spoiled brat.

Whining about the press and using it to feather your nest: THAT is being a spoiled brat.

Going on global television at the age of nearly 40, a married man with a child and another one on the way, complaining your daddy has cut of your allowance: THAT is a spoiled brat.

Sitting next to your wife describing her taxpayer-funded wedding as a "spectacle" for the little people: THAT is a spoiled brat.

Those are just the headline big ticket ones. Almost all his litigation has also been spoiled brat behaviour, except elements of the phone hacking cases.

Want me to go on? (Not that I can be bothered.)

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IcedPurple · 04/06/2025 22:14

Madasahattersteaparty1749 · 04/06/2025 22:07

Does anyone think once the Queens cousins die,’there will be a change to have only those direct in line of succession being Prince and Princess, with title also bestowed to the spouse when married to heir or heir apparent ?

The exception being Princess Anne as she is the Princess Royal? Anne’s children don’t use titles and neither do Edward’s.

It would remove Andrew’s HRH Prince Title, his daughters, but also removing Harry’s HRH Prince title and that of his children?

Harry couldn’t claim he was being targeted if everyone else loses their HRH.

I think it could and should happen now, but not retrospectively. So everyone who currently has HRH titles can keep them, but going forward only the direct heir and their children will be HRH Prince(ss). That is already the case in most if not all of the European monarchies.

Really the late Queen should have done it because it would have preempted a lot of this. But that wasn't her style.

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