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How can Harry be so deluded?

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HiRen · 04/06/2025 17:38

The paranoia deepens

I don't really know what to conclude from this other than that Harry must feel the victim of a deep state conspiracy. Being a spoilt brat, and not understanding that he's there to serve his country rather than the country being there to serve him, can't help. Even if he did fear strategic delays, why would he jump to the conclusion that specific individuals have it in for him, rather than that there's a bigger picture to consider?

I just can't fathom the depths of misery and confusion he must experience on a daily basis. He must think his whole life was a lie until he met Meghan. I really do think things with Harry are much worse than they seem. Which puts an entirely different, and much darker, gloss on all of Meghan's utterings of her era of joy.

I honestly wouldn't want to be in their orbit. And I wonder whether those who remain in their orbit are desperate, whether as friends or employees. They're too much.

Harry and Meghan explored changing surname to Spencer amid children’s passport delays

Exclusive: source says couple feared unexplained wait was due to king’s opposition to their children bearing HRH title

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jun/04/harry-and-meghan-explored-changing-surname-to-spencer-amid-childrens-passport-delays

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IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2025 08:35

ThePoshUns · 08/06/2025 08:33

I wonder if he will set up his own instagram account? Maybe they’ll move into TikTok as well?

Perhaps replicate that... crotch dance.. 🤢

Thedom · 08/06/2025 08:43

Someone wrote this response to Camilla Tominey on her X post where she linked her telegraph report on Harry's desperation for a reconciliation being doomed. Don't think I have ever read anything as succinct, articulate and which absolutely underscores all that is wrong with Harry and Meghan and the bullshit of Harry expecting a reconciliation. .

"Harry said he wanted a family, not an institution. But what he had was a family - and he treated them like an institution. And the media? They’ve played along with the delusion. Not because it’s true, but because it’s profitable. Harry and Meghan have generated endless content - for tabloids, for broadcasters, for Sussex-friendly podcasts and thinkpieces.

And now, with the story fading, everyone seems to be sniffing around for the next chapter. Something redemptive. A reconciliation arc. But here’s the reality: William will protect his wife - in the way the media have tried to convince us Harry was protecting his. The difference? William is protecting the actual mother of his children from a five-year campaign of reputational destruction, pushed by two people and their well-documented online PR network - from bot armies to blue ticks - who’ve worked to brand her as racist, cold, and complicit. Let’s be crystal clear: Harry and Meghan are directly responsible for online hate accounts like this one (yes, one of the “Squad” accounts boosted by their network). The same PR orbit the New York Times confirmed was behind the cruel, persistent hounding of a mother - one we now know was quietly enduring cancer. The fact that we even have to spell this out is a mark of how unserious the media has become.

Because once you look at this story as a family, not an institution, it becomes obvious: what’s happened is unforgivable.

We weren’t meant to find out that Omid Scobie was briefed - but we did. We weren’t supposed to link the coordinated strategy aimed at degrading Catherine and destabilising her marriage - but we can. And when you realise the Sussexes’ strategy wasn’t just to distance themselves from the monarchy, but to damage the family itself - to poison the well that William and Catherine’s three children depend on - you understand why William is done.

Harry is 40. He has made millions turning his broken-home trauma into entertainment - while helping build a narrative that targets his brother’s wife and children. George is 11. Catherine is his mummy as Diana was Harry’s. Spare us the media’s fantasy arc. You can push the reconciliation angle all you like, but most Brits know why William would want nothing to do with this man. This isn’t palace protocol. It’s personal. Because here’s the truth about families: for every Harry, there are two or three Williams. People who know exactly what it’s like to deal with a narcissistic sibling who’s always the victim, always spinning a new story, always demanding an apology. But this isn’t therapy. It’s reality. And William’s children already have family - you can see it in the warmth between them and their cousins. The only people clinging to the idea of the monarchy as an “institution” are the ones who walked away from the family part.

Remember the Commonwealth Day service - their final engagement? Meghan was playing to the cameras, working her narrative as the “feeling” woman breaking free from the cold institution. But look closer. It was William, Catherine, and even Harry who looked shattered. Grieving. Holding the line while the Sussexes turned their exit into performance. The press told us Meghan was the emotionally intelligent one. But the public saw something different. We always have.

We’ve endured five years of this - five years of PR spin masquerading as truth. Meghan isn’t the victim of Harry’s world. Harry is the victim of hers. Shallow, performative, obsessed with narrative, uninterested in kinship unless it comes with a crown or a camera. And here’s the hard truth for their camp: no matter how many headlines you buy or how many tweets your PR network coordinates, you cannot manufacture respect. You can’t make Britain care. Meghan thought this country needed her and her children. She’s about to learn it was the other way around

IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2025 08:46

@Thedom excellent, thank you.
So true.

NewAgeNewMe · 08/06/2025 08:48

What a superb post @Thedom thank you

JSMill · 08/06/2025 08:50

Thedom · 08/06/2025 08:43

Someone wrote this response to Camilla Tominey on her X post where she linked her telegraph report on Harry's desperation for a reconciliation being doomed. Don't think I have ever read anything as succinct, articulate and which absolutely underscores all that is wrong with Harry and Meghan and the bullshit of Harry expecting a reconciliation. .

"Harry said he wanted a family, not an institution. But what he had was a family - and he treated them like an institution. And the media? They’ve played along with the delusion. Not because it’s true, but because it’s profitable. Harry and Meghan have generated endless content - for tabloids, for broadcasters, for Sussex-friendly podcasts and thinkpieces.

And now, with the story fading, everyone seems to be sniffing around for the next chapter. Something redemptive. A reconciliation arc. But here’s the reality: William will protect his wife - in the way the media have tried to convince us Harry was protecting his. The difference? William is protecting the actual mother of his children from a five-year campaign of reputational destruction, pushed by two people and their well-documented online PR network - from bot armies to blue ticks - who’ve worked to brand her as racist, cold, and complicit. Let’s be crystal clear: Harry and Meghan are directly responsible for online hate accounts like this one (yes, one of the “Squad” accounts boosted by their network). The same PR orbit the New York Times confirmed was behind the cruel, persistent hounding of a mother - one we now know was quietly enduring cancer. The fact that we even have to spell this out is a mark of how unserious the media has become.

Because once you look at this story as a family, not an institution, it becomes obvious: what’s happened is unforgivable.

We weren’t meant to find out that Omid Scobie was briefed - but we did. We weren’t supposed to link the coordinated strategy aimed at degrading Catherine and destabilising her marriage - but we can. And when you realise the Sussexes’ strategy wasn’t just to distance themselves from the monarchy, but to damage the family itself - to poison the well that William and Catherine’s three children depend on - you understand why William is done.

Harry is 40. He has made millions turning his broken-home trauma into entertainment - while helping build a narrative that targets his brother’s wife and children. George is 11. Catherine is his mummy as Diana was Harry’s. Spare us the media’s fantasy arc. You can push the reconciliation angle all you like, but most Brits know why William would want nothing to do with this man. This isn’t palace protocol. It’s personal. Because here’s the truth about families: for every Harry, there are two or three Williams. People who know exactly what it’s like to deal with a narcissistic sibling who’s always the victim, always spinning a new story, always demanding an apology. But this isn’t therapy. It’s reality. And William’s children already have family - you can see it in the warmth between them and their cousins. The only people clinging to the idea of the monarchy as an “institution” are the ones who walked away from the family part.

Remember the Commonwealth Day service - their final engagement? Meghan was playing to the cameras, working her narrative as the “feeling” woman breaking free from the cold institution. But look closer. It was William, Catherine, and even Harry who looked shattered. Grieving. Holding the line while the Sussexes turned their exit into performance. The press told us Meghan was the emotionally intelligent one. But the public saw something different. We always have.

We’ve endured five years of this - five years of PR spin masquerading as truth. Meghan isn’t the victim of Harry’s world. Harry is the victim of hers. Shallow, performative, obsessed with narrative, uninterested in kinship unless it comes with a crown or a camera. And here’s the hard truth for their camp: no matter how many headlines you buy or how many tweets your PR network coordinates, you cannot manufacture respect. You can’t make Britain care. Meghan thought this country needed her and her children. She’s about to learn it was the other way around

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That’s a very powerful article.

Spectre8 · 08/06/2025 08:51

Hmmm but whay family expexts you to cutest to the queen in private? You would think if they are not an institution then in private you wouldn't have to carry on those types of protocols...?

IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2025 08:51

It is shameful how Kate was treated. We saw some vile threads on here. That certainly has been a low point for H&M.

Thedom · 08/06/2025 08:54

These are very accurate, but chilling, excerpts from that post

And when you realise the Sussexes’ strategy wasn’t just to distance themselves from the monarchy, but to damage the family itself - to poison the well that William and Catherine’s three children depend on - you understand why William is done.

And William’s children already have family - you can see it in the warmth between them and their cousins. The only people clinging to the idea of the monarchy as an “institution” are the ones who walked away from the family part.

Talltreesbythelake · 08/06/2025 08:56

Spectre8 · 08/06/2025 08:51

Hmmm but whay family expexts you to cutest to the queen in private? You would think if they are not an institution then in private you wouldn't have to carry on those types of protocols...?

My family are solidly working class, and my Mum would be mortified if I met the Queen in private and failed to curtsey! I learned how as a six year old at ballet class especially for this eventuality. I also shake hands with people in private and say good morning to colleagues even though we are not being filmed.

Quirkswork · 08/06/2025 08:57

That article is completely spot on. The last part in particular. Meghan wasn't famous enough before for us to know her and didn't stay here long enough in the UK for anyone to care now she's gone.

Quirkswork · 08/06/2025 09:00

Spectre8 · 08/06/2025 08:51

Hmmm but whay family expexts you to cutest to the queen in private? You would think if they are not an institution then in private you wouldn't have to carry on those types of protocols...?

I can't imagine the Queen would have forced her to curtsey if she didn't want to, can you? Meghan just uses that as another excuse.

IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2025 09:03

Quirkswork · 08/06/2025 09:00

I can't imagine the Queen would have forced her to curtsey if she didn't want to, can you? Meghan just uses that as another excuse.

Yes. I doubt very much if that was the case. Just another lie.

Nagginthenag · 08/06/2025 09:04

Spectre8 · 08/06/2025 08:51

Hmmm but whay family expexts you to cutest to the queen in private? You would think if they are not an institution then in private you wouldn't have to carry on those types of protocols...?

Respect and tradition. They also hug and kiss.

MaturingCheeseball · 08/06/2025 09:07

Very good article/comment.

I also think that a very basic Sussex problem is that Meghan is an unlikeable character. They have tried every which way - stately, ditsy, cool, elegant, fun - and still she just comes across as someone you’d be wary of.

And no, it’s not - what did a pp call it - the Nazi press giving us this idea - Meghan has shown us her character, and Harry has demonstrated that he is a sad fool juggling and dancing in Montecito and literally knocking on firmly closed doors in Britain.

Uricon2 · 08/06/2025 09:15

(It took ages to post so don't want to edit, don't think it's behind the paywall, lead article)

Summarised version. Meghan doesn't care about Bristish haters. Oh and she's got a rose coming out in 3 weeks and is ? generally joining the booze biz. And she's a storyteller.

All allegedly.

IsoldeWagner · 08/06/2025 09:18

Ah. "British haters" of course. Nothing like stereotyping a whole nation! I wonder who all those people were who came out to cheer and support her?
Perhaps imported from California?

Thedom · 08/06/2025 09:20

Does she care about the American haters?

Vespanest · 08/06/2025 09:22

Harry certainly didn't realise that siblings don't owe you anything. You can push parents in a way that siblings as adults can simply walk away from. On a personal level William may still hurt but I actually think William fun side and relaxed style seems much more visable now that Harry's gone. If anyone thinks Harry is coping with being the spare to Meghans success is on glue.

Quirkswork · 08/06/2025 09:22

Of course she won't care about the UK. The UK never cared about her. The UK did care about Harry though.

Mylovelygreendress · 08/06/2025 09:23

Excellent article . Thanks @Thedom

Mylovelygreendress · 08/06/2025 09:24

Can we start guessing the name of the wine ? I am assuming the label will have the Sussex crown on it .

Nagginthenag · 08/06/2025 09:25

Has Meghan stomped the grapes herself?

Quirkswork · 08/06/2025 09:26

Mylovelygreendress · 08/06/2025 09:24

Can we start guessing the name of the wine ? I am assuming the label will have the Sussex crown on it .

Royal Sussex Rose.

I long for them to print all the labels, stick them onto to the bottles and then the King whip the Sussex titles off them.

Uricon2 · 08/06/2025 09:28

I don't get the whole celeb booze business. I'm not going to buy a wine or a gin because it has the name of someone famous associated with it even if I like them, but having said that I don't think I'm the target market.

Honorable exception Sam Neill who actually produces his own and is absolutely passionate about it.

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