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The royal family

Rebrand, Restructure, Harry and Meghan 2025 version

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Thedom · 25/05/2025 08:15

The Era of Joy didn't last long.

This is going to be interesting, it's going to be a full on PR onslaught for the next few months, and then we will have Harry launching his very own 'commercial project'.

Clearly an article straight from the Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, giving an exclusive to the DM.

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Uricon2 · 28/05/2025 11:17

Not as bad as the @BasiliskStare family flight mayhem but my mother flew in an old military Dakota to the Channel Islands in the early 50s, I don't know how much adaptation had been done because she apparently sat belted into one of the old paratrooper seats along the side and the whole thing shook and rattled so much she thought it would come apart. The entire journey was spent in silent prayer.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 28/05/2025 11:20

PaperAlchemy · 28/05/2025 10:08

Lol calm down, it was a tongue in cheek reply to a comment that actually fit Charles pretty well. As for Andrew, the less said the better.

Don’t think it’s me that needs to calm down, I’m not the one scrabbling for excuses for Harry’s awful behaviour, that’s you.

IcedPurple · 28/05/2025 11:30

MayaKovskaya · 28/05/2025 10:07

I guess so! I've heard these wild claims about the Dimbleby book before, as if anything in it compared to Harry's personal cottage industry of slagging off his family! 😂

I'm not sure how people think an unwise, but fairly anodyne comment in a decades old book which Charles didn't even write is some sort of 'gotcha'.

MayaKovskaya · 28/05/2025 11:36

IcedPurple · 28/05/2025 11:30

I'm not sure how people think an unwise, but fairly anodyne comment in a decades old book which Charles didn't even write is some sort of 'gotcha'.

I wonder if it's because getting harder to defend Harry? . This has happened a few times recently - "what about Charles' book, interview?" etc.
It really doesn't hold water as an argument, but it shows how far some people will reach.

CarefulN0w · 28/05/2025 11:50

At a guess, the RF as a whole do loathe the press and I can imagine Prince Philip and Anne in particular being excoriating. But at least the rest of the family understand that it’s an uneasy partnership, that both sides need each other, and [mostly] behave professionally in public.

Harry not understanding the trade off between the two sides and Andrew thinking Emily Maitless was a nice lady off the tele are exceptions.

IcedPurple · 28/05/2025 11:55

MayaKovskaya · 28/05/2025 11:36

I wonder if it's because getting harder to defend Harry? . This has happened a few times recently - "what about Charles' book, interview?" etc.
It really doesn't hold water as an argument, but it shows how far some people will reach.

Mostly they don't even try to defend him anymore.

Instead, their MO seems to be gratuitous, unprovoked insults of other posters.

Calling people 'deranged' and saying that they hope they don't have children seem to be favourites.

BasiliskStare · 28/05/2025 12:13

There's the famous Nicholas Witchell comment isn't there by KC on the skiing holiday, which was a long time ago but by and large I think most of the WRF realise there's a trade off with the press and try to do a bit of give and take. I think the fact that most of W's school , university years went largely without comment & H's tour of duty being disrupted was only due to an unfortunate Australian media cock up meant things have been easier between the RF & the pres. Harry I think has a bee in his bonnet which he can't just let go. & I think he should.

jeffgoldblum · 28/05/2025 12:34

BasiliskStare · 28/05/2025 12:13

There's the famous Nicholas Witchell comment isn't there by KC on the skiing holiday, which was a long time ago but by and large I think most of the WRF realise there's a trade off with the press and try to do a bit of give and take. I think the fact that most of W's school , university years went largely without comment & H's tour of duty being disrupted was only due to an unfortunate Australian media cock up meant things have been easier between the RF & the pres. Harry I think has a bee in his bonnet which he can't just let go. & I think he should.

Harry’s problem with the press is simple!
he wants to do everything and anything that he likes, he doesn’t want anyone to know what he does and he certainly doesn’t want the press to tell anyone!

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 28/05/2025 12:45

BasiliskStare · 28/05/2025 12:13

There's the famous Nicholas Witchell comment isn't there by KC on the skiing holiday, which was a long time ago but by and large I think most of the WRF realise there's a trade off with the press and try to do a bit of give and take. I think the fact that most of W's school , university years went largely without comment & H's tour of duty being disrupted was only due to an unfortunate Australian media cock up meant things have been easier between the RF & the pres. Harry I think has a bee in his bonnet which he can't just let go. & I think he should.

I ran a small tech company a few years back, and we had a relationship with the only journalist in a region.

The man was a slimey git. We HATED him! He would sidle up to us at events and slag off everyone, and you just knew that he was slagging you off too.

But he had to be abided, because he WAS the press for our market.

MayaKovskaya · 28/05/2025 12:46

jeffgoldblum · 28/05/2025 12:34

Harry’s problem with the press is simple!
he wants to do everything and anything that he likes, he doesn’t want anyone to know what he does and he certainly doesn’t want the press to tell anyone!

He also clearly expects only positive press for himself and his wife. No-one is allowed to question or criticise them.
He is beyond entitled and arrogant.

jeffgoldblum · 28/05/2025 12:51

MayaKovskaya · 28/05/2025 12:46

He also clearly expects only positive press for himself and his wife. No-one is allowed to question or criticise them.
He is beyond entitled and arrogant.

Exactly!
let’s be honest here , he has never denied the actions that the papers have reported on .
his complaints have always been that they … reported them publicly and how they actually found out about what he had done!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/05/2025 12:52

jeffgoldblum · 28/05/2025 12:34

Harry’s problem with the press is simple!
he wants to do everything and anything that he likes, he doesn’t want anyone to know what he does and he certainly doesn’t want the press to tell anyone!

Trouble is, jeff, that might even work if it wasn't for Harry's own accounts and comments about what he's done

In all honesty I take little notice of media articles unless they're straightforward reporting with a named source, but there's now very little they could do to him which would cause more damage than he's done to himself - and the vast majority of that in recent times has been the result of his own choices

jeffgoldblum · 28/05/2025 12:54

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/05/2025 12:52

Trouble is, jeff, that might even work if it wasn't for Harry's own accounts and comments about what he's done

In all honesty I take little notice of media articles unless they're straightforward reporting with a named source, but there's now very little they could do to him which would cause more damage than he's done to himself - and the vast majority of that in recent times has been the result of his own choices

True puzzled !
but unfortunately harry is too dim to realise that !
and clearly too stupid to remember what exactly he’s said from one interview or book to another!

MayaKovskaya · 28/05/2025 12:56

jeffgoldblum · 28/05/2025 12:51

Exactly!
let’s be honest here , he has never denied the actions that the papers have reported on .
his complaints have always been that they … reported them publicly and how they actually found out about what he had done!

Plus: has he ever called out the media and commentators for being vile to William and Kate last year?.
He was silent.
Silence implies consent.

jeffgoldblum · 28/05/2025 13:00

MayaKovskaya · 28/05/2025 12:56

Plus: has he ever called out the media and commentators for being vile to William and Kate last year?.
He was silent.
Silence implies consent.

No !
in fact I find no evidence of him complaining about the press treatment of anyone but himself and his wife!

he simply is too self involved to care about anybody else!

NewAgeNewMe · 28/05/2025 13:01

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NewAgeNewMe · 28/05/2025 13:01

Charles interview and Dimbleby book cannot be compared to Harry’s Spare, NF show, BBC interview, and Oprah.

MrsLeonFarrell · 28/05/2025 13:05

MayaKovskaya · 28/05/2025 12:56

Plus: has he ever called out the media and commentators for being vile to William and Kate last year?.
He was silent.
Silence implies consent.

This is where his argument falls down. If he was serious about the so called press campaigning he would call out everything they do, not just the bits that he feels affect him.

MayaKovskaya · 28/05/2025 13:20

jeffgoldblum · 28/05/2025 13:00

No !
in fact I find no evidence of him complaining about the press treatment of anyone but himself and his wife!

he simply is too self involved to care about anybody else!

Exactly!

MayaKovskaya · 28/05/2025 13:20

MrsLeonFarrell · 28/05/2025 13:05

This is where his argument falls down. If he was serious about the so called press campaigning he would call out everything they do, not just the bits that he feels affect him.

Yes, and then, at least he would garner some respect.

Thedom · 28/05/2025 13:41

He will be pissed off with The Times today,

Travelyst refused to disclose the carbon emissions for Harrys return trip to Shanghai. Its laughable really 😂

https://archive.ph/rS4rE

It is not known what flight Harry took to China. Travalyst declined to share its own model’s estimates for the amount of harmful emissions caused by an average first-class return flight from Los Angeles to Shanghai, when asked by The Times.

On average, a passenger travelling first-class on a return flight from Los Angeles to Shanghai causes the equivalent of 6311.32kg or 6.31 tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions,

These emissions could be anywhere between 10 and 100 times higher in a private jet, depending on the type of aircraft.

According to the carbon emissions calculator of FlightFree USA, a campaign group urging people to fly less, “avoiding this trip [Los Angeles to Shanghai] is as climate friendly as carpooling for 3.7 years”.

The calculator also claimed that a passenger who mades a return flight from Los Angeles to Shanghai, for example, would cause more emissions of greenhouse gases in a single trip than 3.5 billion people emit over the course of a year.

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ThePoshUns · 28/05/2025 14:23

Haha such hypocrisy

IcedPurple · 28/05/2025 14:24

According to the carbon emissions calculator of FlightFree USA, a campaign group urging people to fly less, “avoiding this trip [Los Angeles to Shanghai] is as climate friendly as carpooling for 3.7 years”.
The calculator also claimed that a passenger who mades a return flight from Los Angeles to Shanghai, for example, would cause more emissions of greenhouse gases in a single trip than 3.5 billion people emit over the course of a year.

Wowzers.

As I said above, there will always be some degree of hypocrisy when jetsetting celebrities promote environmental causes.

But for someone who thinks nothing of travelling by private jet, or flying to the other side of the world for a single speech, setting up an organisation telling the plebs to take the bus is really offering his critics a wide open goal.

jeffgoldblum · 28/05/2025 14:43

IcedPurple · 28/05/2025 14:24

According to the carbon emissions calculator of FlightFree USA, a campaign group urging people to fly less, “avoiding this trip [Los Angeles to Shanghai] is as climate friendly as carpooling for 3.7 years”.
The calculator also claimed that a passenger who mades a return flight from Los Angeles to Shanghai, for example, would cause more emissions of greenhouse gases in a single trip than 3.5 billion people emit over the course of a year.

Wowzers.

As I said above, there will always be some degree of hypocrisy when jetsetting celebrities promote environmental causes.

But for someone who thinks nothing of travelling by private jet, or flying to the other side of the world for a single speech, setting up an organisation telling the plebs to take the bus is really offering his critics a wide open goal.

Edited

Exactly the point I was trying to make earlier!!!
its the hypocrisy that I find hard to swallow, I’m sure however someone more forgiving will be along to share their opinion shortly!

BemusedAmerican · 28/05/2025 15:12

Is there a reason he couldn't do a Zoom lecture?

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