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Confessions of a Female Flounder part 2

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foreverblowingbubbless · 14/05/2025 04:39

I've embarrassed for Meghan saying that her arranging takeaway food on a plate is the same thing as what Figs Heather Hasson has done 😬

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RandyRedHumpback · 24/05/2025 10:14

Knakeredd · 24/05/2025 10:09

She would be indirectly shitting on her children and causing them huge emotional damage if she suddenly eviscerated their 'Papa' having previously told the world how magical a father and husband he was.

Well it depends how she says it. She's a clever woman. She can write about him with compassion and affection, whilst at the same time making it clear that his behaviour was unacceptable and strained their marriage. Mummy loved your daddy very much, daddy tried his best, but his demons always got the better of us.

foreverblowingbubbless · 24/05/2025 10:21

They are a constant source of speculation and that is why they get talked about. If SM had been about in the days of the Duke of Windsor it would have been the same. People naturally love a bit of drama ( Mick). There is a new biopic about the Duchess of Windsor being filmed with Joan Collins. I'm sure it will fire up the comparisons again when released.

Confessions of a Female Flounder part 2
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Lifestooshort71 · 24/05/2025 10:28

I hope they stay together and never divorce but I'm pretty sure that if it came to that, any financial settlement offered to M would be so tightly tied to a lifetime NDA, she'd be held back from even muttering a criticism in her sleep of anyone in the RF - a very generous monthly allowance would demand total silence and, conversely, free her up to pursue most other activities. Anyway, hopefully it will never come to that.

Knakeredd · 24/05/2025 10:30

RandyRedHumpback · 24/05/2025 10:14

Well it depends how she says it. She's a clever woman. She can write about him with compassion and affection, whilst at the same time making it clear that his behaviour was unacceptable and strained their marriage. Mummy loved your daddy very much, daddy tried his best, but his demons always got the better of us.

I dont know tho - is she the type that just flutters her eyelashes and gets others to mouth her discontent - so that she always has plausable deniability? Bit like the Gweneth Paltrow thing - she likes to keep herself distanced from conflict although she is stirring the pot?

foreverblowingbubbless · 24/05/2025 10:42

Knakeredd · 24/05/2025 10:30

I dont know tho - is she the type that just flutters her eyelashes and gets others to mouth her discontent - so that she always has plausable deniability? Bit like the Gweneth Paltrow thing - she likes to keep herself distanced from conflict although she is stirring the pot?

Definitely sneaky!

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flapjackfairy · 24/05/2025 10:44

personally I don't think Meghan is half as clever as she thinks she is.

FenellaFeldman · 24/05/2025 10:45

flapjackfairy · 24/05/2025 10:44

personally I don't think Meghan is half as clever as she thinks she is.

She's got where she is because of who she's married to.
Before that, because of her appearance and how she was prepared to dress and present herself.
Now? She's mid 40s and can't ride that crest of a wave anymore.

RandyRedHumpback · 24/05/2025 10:45

Lifestooshort71 · 24/05/2025 10:28

I hope they stay together and never divorce but I'm pretty sure that if it came to that, any financial settlement offered to M would be so tightly tied to a lifetime NDA, she'd be held back from even muttering a criticism in her sleep of anyone in the RF - a very generous monthly allowance would demand total silence and, conversely, free her up to pursue most other activities. Anyway, hopefully it will never come to that.

That entirely depends on whether the RF want to get involved in a H&M divorce. If I was the RF - William in particular - I'd just let them crack on with it alone as ex members go the RF, and publish if they want to.

If it's just a question of gossip, then Harry is further and further away from the "present" of what the RF is portraying to the world - which is a fairly solid family unit. The past is the past, people change. In Harry's own account in Spare, he hasn't been particularly close to William since he and Catherine started a family. Youthful wobbles on William's part can be countered by the family man he is today. I doubt there's much else he can say about Charles and Camila that would do any further, significant damage. Nobody else to gossip about other than Andrew, and there are better people than Harry who have/will get the better of him.

RandyRedHumpback · 24/05/2025 10:47

Knakeredd · 24/05/2025 10:30

I dont know tho - is she the type that just flutters her eyelashes and gets others to mouth her discontent - so that she always has plausable deniability? Bit like the Gweneth Paltrow thing - she likes to keep herself distanced from conflict although she is stirring the pot?

If it's a major money making vehicle, it's going to have to come from her in her own words. I doubt she'd make much money whispering all the good stuff into the ear of another Scobie and being a "source".

Knakeredd · 24/05/2025 10:51

RandyRedHumpback · 24/05/2025 10:47

If it's a major money making vehicle, it's going to have to come from her in her own words. I doubt she'd make much money whispering all the good stuff into the ear of another Scobie and being a "source".

I agree she would need to do that not sure its where she sees herself - dishing the dirt - it hasnt played out so well for her so far. Bur if the $$$$$ are enough she might just take the money and run (from public life)

FenellaFeldman · 24/05/2025 10:52

Dishing dirt isn't sustainable, and surely makes your "brand" a bit tainted? If I worked with her, I'd always wonder what she was saying about me.

flapjackfairy · 24/05/2025 10:58

FenellaFeldman · 24/05/2025 10:45

She's got where she is because of who she's married to.
Before that, because of her appearance and how she was prepared to dress and present herself.
Now? She's mid 40s and can't ride that crest of a wave anymore.

precisely!
That requires guile and certain other skills but not necessarily high levels of intelligence.
Meghan considers herself to be someone with a razer sharp mind and an expert in almost just about anything. Her efforts don't bear that out .

CathyorClaire · 24/05/2025 11:11

Will they get the big money though a second time around

I don't think they will.

PRH allegedly got burned on the 'Spare' deal so I doubt they'll be up for round two. Smaller publishing houses might well take a punt but I think any deal would be far smaller in take and far more rigorously constructed.

FenellaFeldman · 24/05/2025 11:14

flapjackfairy · 24/05/2025 10:58

precisely!
That requires guile and certain other skills but not necessarily high levels of intelligence.
Meghan considers herself to be someone with a razer sharp mind and an expert in almost just about anything. Her efforts don't bear that out .

Only sharp in comparison to Harry, which isn't saying much.

Mylovelygreendress · 24/05/2025 12:02

Lifestooshort71 · 24/05/2025 10:28

I hope they stay together and never divorce but I'm pretty sure that if it came to that, any financial settlement offered to M would be so tightly tied to a lifetime NDA, she'd be held back from even muttering a criticism in her sleep of anyone in the RF - a very generous monthly allowance would demand total silence and, conversely, free her up to pursue most other activities. Anyway, hopefully it will never come to that.

I agree plus she will do anything to hang on to that title.

Butteredtoast55 · 24/05/2025 12:16

I actually think that, if the Sussexes split, the RF will continue to distance themselves and not pay out to Meghan. I think they know that any negative publicity will now be quite easily countered with a 'recollections may vary' type of comment, and H&M have done so much to discredit themselves and throw their 'truth' into question that anything they say is going to be taken with a gigantic pinch of salt.

MrsLeonFarrell · 24/05/2025 12:22

As previous posters have said I don't think that gossip books are a viable way forward. The Royal family will always have the advantage because they can afford to play a long game. They can live down gossip by ignoring it and refusing to comment. I suspect that even Andrew could have done this to a extent if need kept his mouth shut (and how glad I am that he didn't).

But for Harry and Meghan being seen as gossips who can't be trusted with private information damages their brand. There really is no upside for them in saying anything else, even about each other.

FenellaFeldman · 24/05/2025 12:27

Also, so much has been proven to be untrue.

Knakeredd · 24/05/2025 12:29

Butteredtoast55 · 24/05/2025 12:16

I actually think that, if the Sussexes split, the RF will continue to distance themselves and not pay out to Meghan. I think they know that any negative publicity will now be quite easily countered with a 'recollections may vary' type of comment, and H&M have done so much to discredit themselves and throw their 'truth' into question that anything they say is going to be taken with a gigantic pinch of salt.

I agree with this - it would be H in negotiations (he's been 'cut-off' by his DF remember the bleating) and I suspect much of his inhertid assets were tied up in trusts way before MM was even on the scene to prevent dissipation through divorce.

prelovedusername · 24/05/2025 12:50

I thought the same as you, @Weepixie . Cabin crew are there for the safety of passengers, not to get giddy over celebrities. If I was the CEO of American Airlines I wouldn’t like the message this sent about the professionalism of their cabin crew.

ETA I meant to quote your post from earlier, screen refreshed and it disappeared!

GinnyCat · 24/05/2025 13:16

Isn't endorsing American Airlines, a bit like endorsing American Tobacco? It's not exactly a socially and environmentally conscious corporation. AA is one of the world’s largest airlines, operating thousands of flights daily, which collectively emit millions of tons of CO2 each year.

Promoting carbon offsets and small-scale sustainability efforts is considered green washing and not much more than a PR exercise. And then there is the issue of labour disputes and treatment of workers..

Like all major commercial airlines, AA has a significant impact on the climate. At the very least Meghan Markle-Sussex should use her influence to campaign for cleaner aviation and sustainable travel practices and call out AA on green washing. But I reckon she is merely hoping for future upgrades to first class or flagship first. Or she is hoping for her jam and pancake mix to be sold on flights 😁

HonoriaBulstrode · 24/05/2025 13:26

Cabin crew are there for the safety of passengers, not to get giddy over celebrities.

Cabin crew must routinely deal with far greater celebrities than MM. Don't actual working royals fly commercial? Not to mention proper A-List celebrities.

And I would assume cabin crew are trained to be discreet and not draw attention to passengers who might not welcome it.

FenellaFeldman · 24/05/2025 13:27

HonoriaBulstrode · 24/05/2025 13:26

Cabin crew are there for the safety of passengers, not to get giddy over celebrities.

Cabin crew must routinely deal with far greater celebrities than MM. Don't actual working royals fly commercial? Not to mention proper A-List celebrities.

And I would assume cabin crew are trained to be discreet and not draw attention to passengers who might not welcome it.

This. They are always trained not to draw attention to them, or fuss over their status.

Uricon2 · 24/05/2025 13:32

I know someone who was BA First Class cabin crew in the 70s and she came across pretty much every celeb of the time you can imagine. She did say that the expectation was discreet, professional behaviour and definitely no what we would call "fangirling" .

smilesy · 24/05/2025 13:43

Uricon2 · 24/05/2025 13:32

I know someone who was BA First Class cabin crew in the 70s and she came across pretty much every celeb of the time you can imagine. She did say that the expectation was discreet, professional behaviour and definitely no what we would call "fangirling" .

Absolutely. I worked for a while in a well known department store in London. We had loads of celebrities and often had to help and advise them. No way would you have drawn attention to them or gushed over them in this way afterwards. It got quite commonplace in the end as I’m sure it does for airline staff

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