Do you think some of you are addicted to hating Harry and Meghan?

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More and more these manic threads are popping up on mumsnet, wild posts and theories and then hundreds of posts brimming with excitement about catching them out or exposing them. It’s like a game or a hunt. Have many of you crossed the line from interested to addicted?

Allegedly teaming up, its not a fact they have. It's just gossip. At least present the information properly.

He got security because he lived in this country and was a working royal. So he was in visible, public facing situations. Also, he lived in royal palaces. But his security would probable have been downgraded by now anyway. Like his aunt and uncle. Because he is now less important

Why are you asking all these questions now anyway? Developing a bit of an addiction? 😆😆

He is being assessed, he has a special bespoke assessment that monitors any threats and security is provided as is needed, he only needs to give notice so this can be done ,
Harry is arguing that he wants 24hr security similar to prime ministers and the monarch and heir , he has never received this and is not entitled to it .
harry is arguing that giving notice is too difficult for him to do , because he can’t just turn up to visit friends at the drop of a hat!
harry has misled people who don’t know the details into thinking he doesn’t get security, he does !

Oh I’m definitely addicted to mumsnet in general, not Meghan and Harry threads, but I’ll occasionally comment. I have a bit of sympathy with some things they’ve dealt with, not others, like most people I expect.

The highest risk is sort of typical of Harry framings in that he ignores the information that gives context. That removing yourself from public duties immediately reduces your risk factor. Draws back to the fascination around him, he has so much to say but most of what comes out is clearly debatable.

Give me a break. Harry happily flies off to countries that the US gives travel advisories about visiting. If some country had the advisory make sure your funeral arrangements are updated as there have been recent incidents of travelers eaten by giant seven foot long carnivorous slugs , H would run out to get a plane ticket and call the paparazzi on the way.

I normally post when I commute. Tonight I can't sleep since I drank too much coffee, so I decided to check the thread. I'm not being paid off by the RF 😁.

It may have been downgraded by now, but if the last time had the assessment he was deemed to be highest (whatever that means), he does seem to have a point that to not get less security, without further assessment, that doesn’t seem sensible.

According to Harry, he’ll only get it when he is here by invitation. Is that lies? If it is lies, I don’t know why he’s allowed to spread these lies.

He doesn’t live in the UK. He gets assessed for security if he gives notice that he is going to visit. No one wants anything to happen to him. I’m pretty sure that if there were any current and credible threats floating around in the radar of the intelligence community, he would be made aware of them. He isn’t that important. He just thinks he is. But this has been discussed, at length, on dedicated threads which are still there if you want to look at them 🤷‍♀️

He has never been deemed to be the highest level of risk !
remember the source for this information also made many false statements that were obviously not true, even his accusations of racism were different in the same interview with Meghan !
when questioned later by a journalist he denied it again and said that neither he nor Meghan claimed the rf were racist that it was the U.K. media that said it!

From what Harry is saying, he’ll only get security if invited here by the Royals. Thats the bit that doesn’t make sense to me. How can he be at risk if he’s invited, but not at risk if he’s not?

Yes those are lies!
and it’s very frustrating that he’s allowed to blatantly say these things without being challenged by a proper journalist!

Harry is very careful with his words when it suits. He is right that he didn’t technically call them racist as he didn’t use that word. He said they had concern about skin colour.

The time he saw Charles for 15 minutes, he supposedly contacted the RF just before he flew out from the US. He was given a motorcade with, if I remember correctly, outriders, to see Charles. No one told H to take an Uber from the airport. I'm sure that if he hadn't immediately flown back out for the TV interview then he would have been offered a room in BP.

He’s been invited and offered to stay with the royals on many occasions!
he said it wasn’t safe and preferred a hotel! 🤷‍♀️

If it isn’t true, it could easily be cleared up by a statement from someone in charge of all this. I think because that doesn’t happen, no one knows what is true or not. So you you know that Harry will get security every time even when not invited? I didn’t think the public would be privy to this info, but you are?

Don’t forget that they actually received an award for challenging racism in the royal family!
this was before he backtracked!, obviously the award wasn’t returned.

But we are privy to the basics!
im no expert but it has been cleared up , particularly if you read and followed the court documents.

I’ve just googled. The Ripple of Hope Award? It says it for work on racial justice, mental health and social justice. I didn’t see anything specifically saying it’s for challenging racism in the RF, other than some headlines. Did the awarding body really say it was for challenging racism in the RF?

@YourNumber, if you are interested there are several threads were more knowledgeable posters have explained all about security with actual facts and information, I am no expert and cannot explain all the details as there are many!
and I appreciate how finding out that Harry has misled and in some cases outright lied without being held to account can make someone feel intensely incredulous!
its why a lot of us who have followed closely are so frustrated!

Do the court documents say that he’ll get security at other times, not just when here by invitation of the RF? If they do, I really don’t understand why he’s allowed to say what he is when it could so easily be shut down. It does make me think there’s at least an element of truth to what he is saying if it would be so easy to prove him wrong and shut him up.

Thank you, I have looked, but from what I saw, none of it proved Harry wrong. I’ll have another look when I get chance, I have to go to work now though.

Someone better than me will hopefully come along and post the speech from the person who leads the awards ( she’s a Kennedy I forget her name !)
she publicly announced that they were nominated and received the award for challenging racism in the royal family.
as I said I’m definitely small fry and have been following all this for awhile, there are better posters who have the information and proof .

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He means he will only get the all singing all dancing security that the top royals (Monarch, consort, heir and consort) get when he is with them, because he'll be encompassed within the already existing security measures in place for them. All palace properties are secure, so if he's there, he's secure the same as the rest of them. At a big event, like a coronation, he's part of the overall security afforded to everyone there. When he comes back on an ad hoc basis, eg to see friends or a charity event, he needs to give RAVEC 28 day' notice, and they will assess the CURRENT threat to him between notice and him being here, and assign him appropriate security. It's akin to a dynamic risk assessment, and is far more effective because it's bang up to date.