Harry's new interview 2

[Viviennemary]

I just thought I would start second thread since I noticed the first one is full. It has certainly dominated media reporting. I saw a snippet on Sky news earlier. A document from Harry saying its a dereliction of duty to stop his security. Erm who just whizzed off to the USA and left all the duties behind. I havent watched the whole interview. I wonder if he'll appeal again.

Because it could be intercepted by someone with bad intentions. It's like using taxis or showing everyone the interior of your house. It's a security risk.

How could it be intercepted if no one knows PH is even there?

All I know is security recommendations about not answering the door to unidentified people.

And she has near universal respect. She is higher up the totem pole than her 'in line for the throne' number would suggest, because her behaviour and achievements have kept her at the top.

How do paps know famous people are in places to take photos!!

Watching that interview just brings home how much Harry needs to get some perspective in his life. He really doesn't realise how good he has it

I agree he has it good materially, @CesarSoubreyon - though there's the question mark over affordability - and of course he has two lovely children, but what else is there?

Family ties are broken, friends will have moved on (or in the circles Harry inhabited they'll certainly prioritise those with the real clout) and he doesn't even have anything approaching a real job

No wonder his face looks the way it does ...

Yes, she just decided to support the Crown and develop interest in various charitable endeavours. It's never about her, always about the charity (take note, H&M!).
Plus she has a very private life, holidays in Scotland in ordinary hotels, goes walking, goes to church, never gets papped.

Thank you for clarifying that. That’s interesting to me because as someone who hasn’t really followed this much, I got totally the different impression from the interview. He seemed to be saying that if he didn’t receive an invitation from the RF he wouldn’t be getting any meaningful protection. The BBC should have clarified or challenged him, how misleading!

I'm told that as often as not they're tipped off, jeff, which was certainly the MO of Harry's mum and has been with his wife

I'm not sure that would be the case among the sort of toffs Harry used to mix with though, but probably I'm just bitter because the image of the one on the left didn't come with a phone number

😂
Yes, they get tipped off, so that's why we get papped images of H&M !
All it needs is someone innocently saying "you'll never guess who we've got at our house party on Saturday!" Then there's an opportunity with a Deliveroo order because Harry is too arrogant and foolish to follow security protocols.
He's an absolute liability.

🤣🤣🤣 you do you @Puzzledandpissedoff! 😉

I think they’re very similar people - both feel wronged and victimised all the time, both have similar narcissistic personality traits and demonstrate brattish behaviour when they don’t get their way. I think Meghan probably bought out these traits in him even more but there’s no denying he had these traits long before he met her.

I think where they differ is Meghan is quite happy to cut people off and not look back whereas Harry can’t let go. Which is normal after all - they are your family. What isn’t normal is thinking you can treat people however you want and think they will welcome you back with open arms.

A very small part of me does feel sorry for Harry - I can’t imagine reaching out to family and them not responding. He’s clearly a very emotional person and his family seem much more stoic. But maybe they don’t want to add more fuel to the fire.

Can we talk about how awkward the entire interview was. The interviewer was an unknown to me, who is she?

I didn’t like the way she had her set of questions and Harry clearly had very set information he wanted to get across, It came across very wooden.

Maybe bar one occasion she asked ‘how does that make you feel’ in response to his answers; I felt like there wasn’t another second line question in the interview. It was question, answer, new question, new answer, she had no ability listen to his answer and pivot her next line of question, I can only imagine they were strictly granted 25 min?

the most awkward part was no use of ‘power of the pause’ she over spoke him at one stage and he then said he wanted to finish his sentence, and her questions came a millisecond after his last word. I didn’t like it.

I also noted he looked like he was going red at times with overwhelm, could hear it in his voice to.

regardless of what was said, it was incredibly awkward.

If H perceives there’s a threat to his security, then he must believe bad people know his whereabouts. Or the Deliveroo driver tells someone dodgy he knows where H is staying.

I think (one of) his points of confusion is that if he is invited to a royal meet up, his security plans will naturally be incorporated into the existing security assessment for that plan. Whilst if he visits and doesn't plan to see any royals, a separate plan is needed.

Which will likely have very low security needs in terms of armed police and cavalcades.

But in his mind it's "security if I'm invited but no security if I'm not". Which isn't the same thing at all.

The way I see it, the only way we (the public) would know about any such request and reaction is if A&L, their parents or their spokespeople leak the fact to the press of choice of the Sussexes. And that in itself would prove that nothing has changed and they should be given a wide berth by the RF. Yes, the children are innocent, but the doesn't mean the people around them are, or that the RF should put themselves at risk of further drama by allowing them in.

That's why his book was called 'Spare', nothing to do with other people, he is spare to himself, right?

How can he be a “spare “ to himself!?
it’s obvious that the term means he’s Williams spare , a spare to the throne!
hence the phrase.. an heir and a spare .
if anything had happened to the heir , the spare would be needed to step up.

It's an American thing. There' a magazine in the US called Real Simple. Every time I saw it I wanted to take a Sharpie and add LY to the Real

Isn't it? That jealousy has poisoned him throughout his life and turned him into the angry, bitter, selfish and narcissistic 40-year-old manchild we saw on Friday. If he'd just been happy with his unbelievably privileged lot, he could've bagged himself a gorgeous titled wife and had a lovely life in the countryside with her and their gaggle of children. He could've had a sprawling country estate with enough shooting, fishing and socialising to keep him happy and a coterie of Hoorah Henry types for friends. Why oh why did he make any of the choices in life that he did? I don't get it. Most of us would have a fabulous time being the younger sibling, enjoying all the trappings and wealth without any of the really onerous duties of state. He really is a prize prat!

To be fair there’s no reason he could not have married Meghan if he loved her!
he simply should have explained things better, told her the rules and stood up for his brother and sister in law .
if he’d done these things either things would have gone smoothly or she wouldn’t have married him.

As a pp mentioned I find it astonishing that the comment about some people wanting history to repeat itself in the context of his mother's death seems to havé passed unnoticed.

It is an utterly outrageous accusation ( or ´slur' in modern parlance.)

I too hope the children are given excellent educations. Although this may be of limited value if they turn out to be a bit dim.

Agreed, but the way in which he allowed her to literally push him around makes me think he married her based on a mixture of lust and desperation.

The "nice" sane girls like Chelsy and Cressida had picked up their skirts and run, and people were starting to realise he was the problem, rather than finding someone prepared to take on the job, which was his usual excuse,

He was fair game for the manipulative American adventuress.

I disagree. Meghan was never going to be happy with sort of life that Harry was born into. Harry is a posh, English bloke, not very bright, but loves the outdoors, shooting, fishing, and vulgar in-jokes with his boozy, posh friends. Meghan couldn't stand his friends from the get-go and the feeling was mutual. She wanted the prince, but she didn't want his life or his friends.

So the only way for Harry to keep Meghan happy was to follow her like a sad little doggie back to CA, where she can live in the sort of vulgar, faux Italian mansion with 16 bathrooms she'd always dreamed of, spout vacuous nonsense while everyone hangs on her every word, sprinkle flowers on her breakfast and be an influencer. Meghan and Harry have fuck all in common. He'd have been much better with a posh English woman who understands him and his type.

Oh she would have married him regardless . I don’t believe for one minute she would have walked away having got a taste of life with a millionaire Prince.