Harry's new interview 2

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I just thought I would start second thread since I noticed the first one is full. It has certainly dominated media reporting. I saw a snippet on Sky news earlier. A document from Harry saying its a dereliction of duty to stop his security. Erm who just whizzed off to the USA and left all the duties behind. I havent watched the whole interview. I wonder if he'll appeal again.

Ah I see, thanks Jeff!

Give him hose and a codpiece (actually, please don't) and I reckon Holbein would've been on the case for a portrait.

@RandyRedHumpback Can you link the NY Times article? Have had a look but can't see it.

Thanks.

It's this, but I'm afraid I can't share:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/11/world/europe/charles-harry-royal-family-crisis.html

The DM have covered the article:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14702151/New-York-Times-William-Charles-Harry-Royal-Family.html

What a glorious head of ginger hair this fox has 😆

It's a basic op ed piece, presented as journalism, from a journalist who has limited access to the RF and seems strangely out of tune with UK sentiment.

Smells strongly as a puff piece.

Thank you!!! 🙏

Harry doesn't want reconciliation, he doesn't want to talk like a grown up, he wants his own way the 2 things are not compatible.
Christ if William is workshy what does that make Harry!
Hopefully the P&POW are bringing up well rounded kids so we don't have another harry or Andrew, bratty, self absorbed wankers as spares.

If it's true and really did come from a palace source, the thing that intrigues me is why they didn't pick something that would be a surprise

And "Harry lies" along with "Charles paid" - which he could easily still be doing - really wouldn't be any surprise at all

Well I suppose it’s not much of a surprise to us @Puzzledandpissedoffbut you have to remember there are actually people who believe what Harry says! 🤣

It’s not exactly a scoop either as some of it was set out in the first judgment of Harry’s judicial review.

The judgement quoted an email on 10 January 2020 which stated that the Royal Household was preparing advice for the Sussexes a range of issues, including security. Apparently the security advice was going to flag to them that the Government might not be prepared to pay for security in the long term under the new arrangements, “So the Household are alive to this possibility”.

Then Sir Mark Sedwill, the Cabinet Secretary, told Meghan and Harry around 16 January that they should have no expectation that the present security arrangements in Great Britain would continue. RAVEC would wish to review what was appropriate. RAVEC would “not provision because they were celebrities and faced intrusive interest from the public or the press”. If they had concerns regarding the latter risks, they could look to private sector provision. Sir Mark noted he got immediate push back from the Sussexes on this.

So the new news is I guess that Harry initially accepted this, and appears to have only kicked off when his father stopped funding it?

It will probably be new to those who don’t bother fact checking before they believe any old cobblers !
and I imagine some will say it’s not true as it was reported in the dm !

Not directly related to his interview but his bitter, puerile vengefulness he has proudly displayed since megxit .
From the DM

During the midst of planning their own fairytale wedding, it was reported by the media that they would be 'providing the poshest Portaloos on earth' with 'porcelain basins' and 'gold-plated seats', as inspired by the ones at Pippa's wedding.

Writing in his bombshell memoir Spare, Harry clarified: 'In reality, we didn't notice anything different about how or where people went pee or poo at Pippa's, and we had nothing to do with choosing the Portaloos for ours.
'But we sincerely hoped that everyone would be able to do their thing in comfort and peace.'

How incredibly rude for him to speak about Pippa's wedding in such a crass and unnecessary manner. I’m convinced Meghan felt slighted about not being invited to the church ceremony, and this comes across as a form of retaliation. They've likely made enemies with the Middleton family for life. Having cut themselves off the actual royal family and brand if you wish and having no actual sustainable income stream or talent, I also don't imagine their social standing and influence in Montecito is particularly high. There is simply nothing that H&M have left to offer other than clicks through controversy. They really didn't need to end up like this, but they did. There will be no reconciliation and harry has burnt his bridges in the UK. All he has going for himself now is to enjoy his house in Montecito and be a good dad to his dc. As a public figure of influence, he's blown it.

If it's true and really did come from a palace source, the thing that intrigues me is why they didn't pick something that would be a surprise

I suspect they’re sticking to what’s relevant at the time, what Harry’s drawing attention to when assuming we’re all numpties, and by doing that they can’t give him any excuse to go off on another tangent.

And I don’t understand why people are surprised about security being paid by the King for a year after they left - I was aware of it from the time they were in Canada.

I honestly think all the jealousy, venom and spite is hers but she draws Harry into her mindset and he becomes convinced they have been slighted.

@FriendsPleasegod I hadn’t heard that one before.

What is their obsessive need to clap back at every tiny comment? It’s not even as if that story is insulting to them!

It’s also just pretty grim to be talking about “poo and wee” as a nearly 40 year old man in your autobiography. Really shows his level of mental maturity.

Did he really say “ where people went pee or poo” ?
honestly ??
he's such a big child.

It’s been a while since I read Spare but I don’t remember that phrase appearing anywhere. I think if it had, there would have been headlines about it at the time. I don’t think he mentioned Pippa’s wedding other than to discuss the argument he had with William about Harry and Meghan moving their place cards at the reception.

@Mayhemabounds - yes Harry is both her puppet as well as a spiteful entitled little man child, but MegaPain pulls his strings for sure

I don’t think he mentioned Pippa’s wedding other than to discuss the argument he had with William about Harry and Meghan moving their place cards at the reception

What happened here?

'In reality, we didn't notice anything different about how or where people went pee or poo at Pippa's, and we had nothing to do with choosing the Portaloos for ours.'

Maybe he was proud of the alteration 😂

I believe (though haven’t read Spare myself) that they weren’t seated together at the reception - which I think was standard practice at this wedding. But I think they moved the place cards so they could sit together.

incredibly ill mannered and bad form.

I have read Spare, don’t remember the Portaloo story at all but I’m not the most reliable witness.

The place name switching came about because at Pippa’s wedding reception, where the convention of seating couples apart was followed, H and MM swapped the cards so that they could sit together. Really rude to interfere with the bride and groom’s seating plan as it would have messed up two tables.

There was a story going round that William and Kate retaliated by switching seats around at H and MM’s reception, which - if true - always struck me as petty. Neither of the above stories could be true, but that was the talk.

Agree.