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Harry's new interview 2

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Viviennemary · 03/05/2025 13:19

I just thought I would start second thread since I noticed the first one is full. It has certainly dominated media reporting. I saw a snippet on Sky news earlier. A document from Harry saying its a dereliction of duty to stop his security. Erm who just whizzed off to the USA and left all the duties behind. I havent watched the whole interview. I wonder if he'll appeal again.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/05/2025 11:35

I think (the Queen wrote to Ravec) more to try and shut Harry up. A kind of “I tried but it’s out of my hands” type of thing

Very much agree with this, @smilesy - not that it did shut him up Hmm - but for an institution which prioritises its own image above all else there's also the side effect of being able to say they did everything they could

And if as many expect this ends badly, that could matter

Thedom · 04/05/2025 11:39

Summers at Balmoral, Royal Christmases, the incredible history.

this has never been of interest to Harry, and Meghan certainly wasn’t interested, too boring for her. So I don’t think the kids will be brought up with any interest in that side of the RF activities.

Balmoral looks absolutely idyllic to me, imagine your kids having that as they backyard and playground for a summer holiday.

IsoldeWagner · 04/05/2025 11:40

Thedom · 04/05/2025 11:39

Summers at Balmoral, Royal Christmases, the incredible history.

this has never been of interest to Harry, and Meghan certainly wasn’t interested, too boring for her. So I don’t think the kids will be brought up with any interest in that side of the RF activities.

Balmoral looks absolutely idyllic to me, imagine your kids having that as they backyard and playground for a summer holiday.

Neither of them have any interest in culture or history. It's wasted on them.

CesarSoubreyon · 04/05/2025 11:40

Watching that interview just brings home how much Harry needs to get some perspective in his life. He really doesn't realise how good he has it. This is what happens with people who have no direction or purpose and too much time on their hands.

Those of us who live in the real world and have actual problems that we battle everyday just look on Harry with a mixture of boredom and disgust now.

A stint in A and E sleeping on a hard chair in the waiting room (because there are no beds) whilst waiting to be seen, diagnosed and treated by a failing NHS would do Harry the world of good.

He needs to get himself an ACTUAL problem.

Or a job.

OvaHere · 04/05/2025 11:55

Mylovelygreendress · 04/05/2025 08:20

I know I sound like a broken record but I have always maintained that this is about Harry wanting exactly what William has and Meghan egging him on as she considers herself superior to Catherine.,
Great posts @GiveMeSpanakopita 👏

Which stems from Diana's insistence that they were treated equally as children. I suspect that continued after her death also for understandable reasons, which is why we got the 'fab 3' for a while before W&C had kids.

The problem is 'equal' is not a thing in hereditary monarchy so Harry was always going to learn that harsh lesson at some point. With the benefit of hindsight it would have been better for everyone, including him, if he learned it from a young age. I think the realisation only started to hit home when George was born then spiralled from there.

IsoldeWagner · 04/05/2025 11:56

OvaHere · 04/05/2025 11:55

Which stems from Diana's insistence that they were treated equally as children. I suspect that continued after her death also for understandable reasons, which is why we got the 'fab 3' for a while before W&C had kids.

The problem is 'equal' is not a thing in hereditary monarchy so Harry was always going to learn that harsh lesson at some point. With the benefit of hindsight it would have been better for everyone, including him, if he learned it from a young age. I think the realisation only started to hit home when George was born then spiralled from there.

He still had incredible privilege and opportunities, though, and fewer demands on him than the actual heir.
Envy is so destructive.

upinaballoon · 04/05/2025 12:01

Profhilodisaster · 04/05/2025 07:49

Ouch indeed , spot on though.

Did Her Royal Highness Meghan say she made the jam quick? QuickLY.

Did they say, on that Oprah programme, that Archie was starting to speak and told people to 'drive safe'? SafeLY.

One British journalist said she feared for Archie's adverbs. Who taught verbs and adverbs to Harry at Eton?

OvaHere · 04/05/2025 12:02

Thedom · 04/05/2025 11:39

Summers at Balmoral, Royal Christmases, the incredible history.

this has never been of interest to Harry, and Meghan certainly wasn’t interested, too boring for her. So I don’t think the kids will be brought up with any interest in that side of the RF activities.

Balmoral looks absolutely idyllic to me, imagine your kids having that as they backyard and playground for a summer holiday.

I can see what happened with Meghan playing out all over again when the children are older/adults.

If either do decide they want to take up their rightful place in the family the entire culture/protocol/rules is going to be baffling and alien to them. Harry has already proven he's not reliable in explaining or preparing anyone for this.

It's sad that they might want to play a part at some point then end up feeling hurt, uncomfortable, rejected etc. because it's all too difficult and unfamiliar.

Thedom · 04/05/2025 12:04

It’s ridiculous, even my kids aren’t equal.

The oldest got all the new stuff, the youngest gets the second hand stuff. Maybe someday she will rebel and remind me if the times she had to use her siblings tennis racket, her golf clubs or the PSB her sister passed on to her. So far no complaints, only gratitude to her sister for passing on her stuff. O

Mylovelygreendress · 04/05/2025 12:07

Thedom · 04/05/2025 11:39

Summers at Balmoral, Royal Christmases, the incredible history.

this has never been of interest to Harry, and Meghan certainly wasn’t interested, too boring for her. So I don’t think the kids will be brought up with any interest in that side of the RF activities.

Balmoral looks absolutely idyllic to me, imagine your kids having that as they backyard and playground for a summer holiday.

Meghan only wanted to go to Balmoral on the day HM died . Wonder why ??
H and M turned down an invitation in 2019 as it was too far for Archie to travel . So they went to Elton’s pad in S France instead 🤷‍♀️

EleanorReally · 04/05/2025 12:08

interviewee on paddy oconnel radio 4 this morning

RandyRedHumpback · 04/05/2025 12:08

Interview with former head of royal protection, Dai Davis. In summary: Harry is talking nonsense. (As an aside, what a perfect, white beard he has! A shoe in for Santa!)

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OvaHere · 04/05/2025 12:10

Heatherjayne1972 · 04/05/2025 08:55

If find it very interesting that he gives an interview to the BBC. In which he seems to come across as a petulant spoilt man sad lonely and very unhappy maybe even desperate to come home who simply can’t understand why his dad won’t speak to him - uh Harry you called them all racist, wrote a book and gave interviews which purposely put them in a bad light etc etc

all while at the same time his wife on the other side of the Atlantic is telling us how happy she is.

I think Meghan's ambition of launching a successful lifestyle brand relies on the image of living your best life which is entirely opposite of where Harry's mindset seems to be.

He'd be better off forgetting all his grievance with the UK and 100% throwing himself behind what she's trying to do because if it did work it would be a solid income stream for both of them.

Mylovelygreendress · 04/05/2025 12:11

OvaHere · 04/05/2025 12:10

I think Meghan's ambition of launching a successful lifestyle brand relies on the image of living your best life which is entirely opposite of where Harry's mindset seems to be.

He'd be better off forgetting all his grievance with the UK and 100% throwing himself behind what she's trying to do because if it did work it would be a solid income stream for both of them.

Has she restocked yet ?

OvaHere · 04/05/2025 12:12

Mylovelygreendress · 04/05/2025 12:11

Has she restocked yet ?

No idea, I've never looked. I don't think I'm the target demographic. 😁

GiveMeSpanakopita · 04/05/2025 12:12

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 04/05/2025 10:54

But no decent British women in his circles wanted him. It is very clear to see that it wasn’t because of the attention that they would receive but because he is a very weak, selfish and stupid person.

The story goes that Chelsy was ready to marry him, to the extent that he asked the Palace to start prepping for the engagement announcement, the security she would need started to be put in place, the usual MI5 digging into her background for reputational skeletons to manage, all those workstreams were underway.

But the sticking point for her was his explosive temper and anger issues; she wanted him to go to therapy and he wouldn't. Apparently it came down to, "It's therapy or I'm off", and he wouldn't, so she was off.

This story was doing the rounds for years before he met Meghan fwiw.

Obviously Kate and William eventually got him to go to anger management therapy, but it doesn't seem to have worked terribly well.

I agree with PPs who say that M brings out the worst in him. I don't think there's anything hugely objectionable about M btw, I mean I don't know her but I've advised any number of moderately successful people in entertainment and they all have that hustle mentality; I admire it. It's so unbelievably hard to gain even a modicum of success in TV, you need to have a measure of talent but you also need massive self-discipline, self-belief and a huge work ethic, so fair pay to M for that. Her problem is that she doesn't seem to have the talent, disposition, creativity, professionalism or mindset to do well at the stratospheric level of celebrity she's now at. And very few do. That's why she's failing at it.

I think that H&M are poorly suited as a couple because they bring out the worst in each other and also seem to indulge in this folie a deux mentality where it's us against the evil world.

Having been in just such a relationship decades ago, when I was still in active addiction, I think it's absolutely possible to love and trust and rely on and adore someone who nevertheless is very bad for you. It rarely ends well.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 04/05/2025 12:17

OvaHere · 04/05/2025 12:10

I think Meghan's ambition of launching a successful lifestyle brand relies on the image of living your best life which is entirely opposite of where Harry's mindset seems to be.

He'd be better off forgetting all his grievance with the UK and 100% throwing himself behind what she's trying to do because if it did work it would be a solid income stream for both of them.

I think Meghan's ambition of launching a successful lifestyle brand relies on the image of living your best life which is entirely opposite of where Harry's mindset seems to be.

Yes, very astute, it's a big, big problem for her brand. Hence the excruciating cognitive dissonance this week of footage of Meghan beamingly talking about how much she is adored by Harry, and how she shows her love by writing emails to her children, whilst across the pond her Beloved rages and makes various insinuations about dark forces threatening his family's lives.

RandyRedHumpback · 04/05/2025 12:18

OvaHere · 04/05/2025 12:02

I can see what happened with Meghan playing out all over again when the children are older/adults.

If either do decide they want to take up their rightful place in the family the entire culture/protocol/rules is going to be baffling and alien to them. Harry has already proven he's not reliable in explaining or preparing anyone for this.

It's sad that they might want to play a part at some point then end up feeling hurt, uncomfortable, rejected etc. because it's all too difficult and unfamiliar.

How does that work though - wanting to take up their "rightful place"? They can't demand that they become working royals. They can't demand a relationship with people who don't know them and who don't trust them not to be shilling for their parents. Harry's decision to keep them away from the UK and his relatives is an absolute shit show that will reverberate down the generations. You can guarantee their mother will not allow these children to live quiet, ordinary, anonymous lives. The best thing Harry can do now is ensure his children get a great education and maximise their respective potentials in their own right, completely separate from royalty, show business or anything else that involves "celebrity" and being in the public eye.

Baital · 04/05/2025 12:20

elessar · 04/05/2025 10:48

On this claim from Harry:

“My status hasn’t changed. It can’t change. I am who I am. I am part of what I’m part of, and I can never escape that.”

I would dearly love for steps now to be made to remove Harry and Meghan’s titles (HRH, Duke and Duchess) and place in line of succession - on the justification that given Harry’s clear concerns regarding his safety are based on his remaining position and connection to the RF, this action will clearly address this by removing any final associations with the royals.

the temper tantrum from Monteiro that would ensue would be hilarious.

His status has changed - just as his aunt and uncles status has changed over the years.

Once william had children Harry's status changed. Over time it will reduce further.

Anne was born into the same 'status' as Harry, then her younger brothers were born, then her brothers had children, and now their children are having children.

JSMill · 04/05/2025 12:22

foreverblowingbubbless · 04/05/2025 11:20

Tbh I think those people don't think that deeply. They will hear the headlines, not really know who RAVEC is or care and will tend to think " what a knob. Didn't he leave the UK but he's still complaining " . Most people are too busy getting on with their own lives.

I agree. Dh takes no interest in these things and when part of the interview played on the news on Friday, he looked up from his phone, said ‘oh grow up, you left’ and went back to his game. The comments online have been pretty similar.

upinaballoon · 04/05/2025 12:22

CesarSoubreyon · 04/05/2025 11:40

Watching that interview just brings home how much Harry needs to get some perspective in his life. He really doesn't realise how good he has it. This is what happens with people who have no direction or purpose and too much time on their hands.

Those of us who live in the real world and have actual problems that we battle everyday just look on Harry with a mixture of boredom and disgust now.

A stint in A and E sleeping on a hard chair in the waiting room (because there are no beds) whilst waiting to be seen, diagnosed and treated by a failing NHS would do Harry the world of good.

He needs to get himself an ACTUAL problem.

Or a job.

If you have to earn a living the job might get you down sometimes, but at times of crisis and sadness, e.g. divorce, bereavement, it can be a godsend to have to get up and go to work every day. Harry just doesn't have this.

IsoldeWagner · 04/05/2025 12:24

The difference being that Anne has made the most of it and has carved out a postive and productive life.

Mayhemabounds · 04/05/2025 12:30

I don’t see what the issue is with the delivery order. The driver would have no idea Prince Harry was there ,
see him or meet him. How ridiculous.

OvaHere · 04/05/2025 12:37

RandyRedHumpback · 04/05/2025 12:18

How does that work though - wanting to take up their "rightful place"? They can't demand that they become working royals. They can't demand a relationship with people who don't know them and who don't trust them not to be shilling for their parents. Harry's decision to keep them away from the UK and his relatives is an absolute shit show that will reverberate down the generations. You can guarantee their mother will not allow these children to live quiet, ordinary, anonymous lives. The best thing Harry can do now is ensure his children get a great education and maximise their respective potentials in their own right, completely separate from royalty, show business or anything else that involves "celebrity" and being in the public eye.

I don't disagree with this but they might want to get to know their family at some point and it would look churlish of the RF to send them packing if they wanted to visit and get to know them. I can understand why the RF would have huge reservations but it wouldn't look great given at this point both A&L are innocent in this mess.

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