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Harry's new interview 2

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Viviennemary · 03/05/2025 13:19

I just thought I would start second thread since I noticed the first one is full. It has certainly dominated media reporting. I saw a snippet on Sky news earlier. A document from Harry saying its a dereliction of duty to stop his security. Erm who just whizzed off to the USA and left all the duties behind. I havent watched the whole interview. I wonder if he'll appeal again.

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NormaMajors1992coat · 05/05/2025 13:25

I mean, she married a racist. I’ve never quite understood the cheek of bandying about racism accusations with no evidence at all, having married Harry. Supporters will no doubt say that people change, he’s matured blah blah blah. But it wasn’t so long ago that he was on tv, sticking up for Lady Hussey because she didn’t mean any harm. And even more recently all the stuff about his genes standing up to Meghan’s 🤮

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 05/05/2025 13:30

Sorry if this has already been posted.

BBB have issued a statement on their correction and clarification page that they should have challenged Harry’s claim of an establishment stitch up and other allegations. They also admit they should have sought Buckingham Palace’s view.

As such, “This was a lapse in our usual high editorial standards

www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications/

Harry's new interview 2
IsoldeWagner · 05/05/2025 13:33

Thank you, @PrettyFlyforaMaiTai . The interview certainly didn't meet any decent journalistic standards. I am glad they've acknowledged it, and printed the correct version of events.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/05/2025 13:36

BBB have issued a statement on their correction and clarification page that they should have challenged Harry’s claim of an establishment stitch up and other allegations. They also admit they should have sought Buckingham Palace’s view
As such, “This was a lapse in our usual high editorial standards*”

The mewing about "lapses" seems to be getting quite common with the BBC, @PrettyFlyforaMaiTai, but faux regret doesn't interest me

If, like so much other trash media, they prioritise scoops above all else then they'll be judged accordingly - especially when they're funded by money which the public has little choice but to pay

elessar · 05/05/2025 13:37

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 05/05/2025 12:51

she hated his friends when she met them and he’s a version of them

This is one of the things that I respect her for - disliking a bunch of braying, hunting toffs who I assume we're making awful banter...

But I never bought into the cheeky chappy image of Harry. He seemed like an utter tool, and a racist one to boot. These are the set that thought "Colonials and Natives" was a megalols theme for a party, before you even come to the costumes chosen...

So why did she like him? A brief google on his background would have shown that these issues were there if she was looking for "kind".

Exactly, by his own words and actions he’s shown us just what he’s like, and there’s nothing to admire or look up to.

if he wasn’t a prince, there isn’t the slightest chance she would have given him the time of day.

not that I think his attraction to her was based on anything more than surface deep appearances either, combined with a bucket load of ego stroking and flattery no doubt.

What do they have in common with each other now? What do they talk about I wonder, when they’re not railing against the injustices of the world, or applauding each other for being such fabulous global humanitarians and entrepreneurs?

jeffgoldblum · 05/05/2025 13:38

IsoldeWagner · 05/05/2025 13:33

Thank you, @PrettyFlyforaMaiTai . The interview certainly didn't meet any decent journalistic standards. I am glad they've acknowledged it, and printed the correct version of events.

What’s the point though!
a small mealy mouthed comment that has to be looked for versus a big showy broadcast that everyone has seen!
as usual this is just ass covering because I’m sure it’s been pointed out to them they are on thin ice after the details of the bashir interview was revealed!

if they want to really make it right they should broadcast a big news segment highlighting the inaccurate information.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/05/2025 13:42

You're right about the mealy-mouthed comment as opposed to the orginal splash, @jeffgoldblum, but I really wouldn't have said they're on thin ice

Not when - for all their pretence about impartiality - they're a useful mouthpiece for the government of the day, who can easily exert control via threats about removing the licence fee

IsoldeWagner · 05/05/2025 13:43

jeffgoldblum · 05/05/2025 13:38

What’s the point though!
a small mealy mouthed comment that has to be looked for versus a big showy broadcast that everyone has seen!
as usual this is just ass covering because I’m sure it’s been pointed out to them they are on thin ice after the details of the bashir interview was revealed!

if they want to really make it right they should broadcast a big news segment highlighting the inaccurate information.

I think that too many in the BBC consider themselves to be quite radical. They mistakenly believe that taking the side of a petulant prince is perhaps challenging the monarchy in their middle class, metropolitan way? When in fact Harry is the ultimate royal; all the status, privilege and wealth with none of the duties and responsibilities. Or perhaps they're just lazy and take state funding for granted.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 05/05/2025 13:51

if they want to really make it right they should broadcast a big news segment highlighting the inaccurate information

If I was the Home Office or the Palace I would be livid and demand that this is read out on the news at 6, it’s utterly shameful that our public broadcaster that we pay for is allowed to get away with is.

IsoldeWagner · 05/05/2025 13:51

BigWillyLittleTodger · 05/05/2025 13:51

if they want to really make it right they should broadcast a big news segment highlighting the inaccurate information

If I was the Home Office or the Palace I would be livid and demand that this is read out on the news at 6, it’s utterly shameful that our public broadcaster that we pay for is allowed to get away with is.

This ⬆️

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 05/05/2025 13:55

It makes Harry even more of a hypocrite.

He slammed the BBC for Martin Bashir, but he's not going to complain about this interview failing to meet journalistic standards, is he?

bluegreygreen · 05/05/2025 14:02

If you read the statement though, @PrettyFlyforaMaiTai, they have only apologised for the poor standards of the Today programme's coverage of the interview - not for the interview itself.

IdaGlossop · 05/05/2025 14:04

GiveMeSpanakopita · 05/05/2025 07:18

I can see it's not live because I can see the edit breaks.

I've arranged interviews for clients under embargo before and it's never been a problem, the media outlet in question will respect the embargo.

I've never done it for a SC judgement and hopefully others more knowledgeable than me can opine on that. But I have done it for other types of embargo where there would be legal consequences if it was broken. It's fine and it's pretty common.

@serenster clarified last week that the BBC would have had to seek permission from the Court of Appeal to lift the embargo so they could pre-record.

IdaGlossop · 05/05/2025 14:06

User14March · 05/05/2025 07:41

Don’t you have to sell your soul for cat fight spats? She tried for Made in Chelsea, maybe Spencer Matthews could have been H.

Now there's a thought. If M had snagged Spencer Matthews, she would have been Pippa's sister-in-law by marriage instead of Kate's.

Rhaidimiddim · 05/05/2025 14:08

Lazy and take state funding for granted @IsoldeWagner
Just like H.

IsoldeWagner · 05/05/2025 14:10

Rhaidimiddim · 05/05/2025 14:08

Lazy and take state funding for granted @IsoldeWagner
Just like H.

Too true.

IdaGlossop · 05/05/2025 14:17

cheezncrackers · 05/05/2025 08:27

It really isn't. PM was an unbelievably selfish woman who was always off gallivanting here and there. And Viscount Linley was gay and extremely promiscuous. Neither of them was great parent material.

Kitty Kelly's 'The Royals' suggested the initial attraction between PM and VL was a mutual love of cross dressing. Despite this and other preoccupations, they have raised two sound and successful children, each highly successful in creative fields (high end furniture business and painter). Like the Tindalls, they are there as role models for Harry. The trouble is that he lacks talent.

cheezncrackers · 05/05/2025 14:17

He must really be missing his former status

Yes, I think the loss of status is unbearable to him and I don't think for a moment that he ever considered that he'd be stripped of his security, his London home and all his patronages. I honestly think that all the bile that has been spewed by him since 2020 is as a result of all those losses. He's furious and this has all been about him getting his revenge, venting his fury and lashing out at his loss of status.

IsoldeWagner · 05/05/2025 14:20

IdaGlossop · 05/05/2025 14:17

Kitty Kelly's 'The Royals' suggested the initial attraction between PM and VL was a mutual love of cross dressing. Despite this and other preoccupations, they have raised two sound and successful children, each highly successful in creative fields (high end furniture business and painter). Like the Tindalls, they are there as role models for Harry. The trouble is that he lacks talent.

As said upthread, Anthony Armstrong Jones was the Earl of Snowdon. His son was Viscount Linley, and now his grandson is. You're identifying the wrong person.

User14March · 05/05/2025 14:20

IdaGlossop · 05/05/2025 14:06

Now there's a thought. If M had snagged Spencer Matthews, she would have been Pippa's sister-in-law by marriage instead of Kate's.

Much better all round (?) Would he have gone to CA? I can see her doing as Vogue does.

IdaGlossop · 05/05/2025 14:20

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 05/05/2025 13:55

It makes Harry even more of a hypocrite.

He slammed the BBC for Martin Bashir, but he's not going to complain about this interview failing to meet journalistic standards, is he?

It is a mystery to me that H chose the BBC for his whinge fest after the Bashir scandal. He must know that his mother's paranoia and fear of a car accident were fuelled by Bashir's actions and that William has made a public statement criticising the BBC. Virtually any broadcaster would have said yes to an approach from H.

IsoldeWagner · 05/05/2025 14:21

cheezncrackers · 05/05/2025 14:17

He must really be missing his former status

Yes, I think the loss of status is unbearable to him and I don't think for a moment that he ever considered that he'd be stripped of his security, his London home and all his patronages. I honestly think that all the bile that has been spewed by him since 2020 is as a result of all those losses. He's furious and this has all been about him getting his revenge, venting his fury and lashing out at his loss of status.

What a nasty piece of work, and what a horrible way to lead your life.

User14March · 05/05/2025 14:23

IsoldeWagner · 05/05/2025 14:21

What a nasty piece of work, and what a horrible way to lead your life.

The best revenge really is living well. I don’t see a man in any kind of ‘honeymoon’ period (?).

Uricon2 · 05/05/2025 14:25

IdaGlossop · 05/05/2025 14:17

Kitty Kelly's 'The Royals' suggested the initial attraction between PM and VL was a mutual love of cross dressing. Despite this and other preoccupations, they have raised two sound and successful children, each highly successful in creative fields (high end furniture business and painter). Like the Tindalls, they are there as role models for Harry. The trouble is that he lacks talent.

I bought a (very small) Linley piece for a friends big birthday a few years ago. It really is lovely and the giftwrapping..!

David and Sarah were in exactly the same position as Archie and Lili will be (niece and nephew of the monarch) and I hope they can follow their example of building sensible lives that suit them because the plain fact is they are not going to be important in Royal terms and the same would be true had H&M not left. Harry however had a chance to have a real role supporting William and he's blown it.

Profhilodisaster · 05/05/2025 14:25

IdaGlossop · 05/05/2025 14:20

It is a mystery to me that H chose the BBC for his whinge fest after the Bashir scandal. He must know that his mother's paranoia and fear of a car accident were fuelled by Bashir's actions and that William has made a public statement criticising the BBC. Virtually any broadcaster would have said yes to an approach from H.

It's an insult to his mother really, another sign of his inability to think before he acts.

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