Harry's new interview 2

[Viviennemary]

I just thought I would start second thread since I noticed the first one is full. It has certainly dominated media reporting. I saw a snippet on Sky news earlier. A document from Harry saying its a dereliction of duty to stop his security. Erm who just whizzed off to the USA and left all the duties behind. I havent watched the whole interview. I wonder if he'll appeal again.

The problem is though that the rules of the embargo (contained in the Civil Procedure Rules) says you can’t do anything externally - like book an interview with the BBC - before it is public.

A copy of the draft judgment may be supplied, in confidence, to the parties provided that –
(a) neither the draft judgment nor its substance is disclosed to any other person or used in the public domain; and
(b) no action is taken (other than internally) in response to the draft judgment, before the judgment is handed down.

Of course Harry’s legal team may have asked the judges for specific permission to set up an interview with the BBC. You have to have a really good reason to get permission though. Wanting to make the top of the BBC 6pm news doesn’t sound like a compelling argument

Didn’t he tell all about the layout of Highgrove and Balmoral Castle in his book? I expect some of the double rooms have a bathroom for each person.

I think Harry's compulsion to get his 'truth' out there, overrides any silly embargo rules.

Do they? I didn't think so, I remember reading that guests had to go along a corridor to shared facilities.

I think he has already been slapped down!

Wes Streeting was asked by Trevor Phillips what he expected Yvette Cooper to do in response to the letter expected from Harry, WS was quite firm that it was an independent process and the government would leave it to Ravec.

Is that what (b) means? Wouldn’t booking the interview have happened in advance, before the draft judgement, so not in response to it? I’m suggesting the contents of the judgement were not disclosed to the BBC until just before they filmed the interview, after 2pm or whenever it was.

That’s what this is about really isn’t it. It will personally cost him north of $800k/year which is a lot when his main income is selling his story, can’t go on much longer when they won’t speak to him can it. Plus, he doesn’t want to sit in traffic when he’s in the UK because he’s never had to do that in his life until he moved to Cali. Wants a Royal escort because UK is congested af.

I know! I think - one for each bedroom, one for the pool, one at the tennis court, one with a shower by the gym, one for the staff, one downstairs for visitors, two others downstairs for the family? Imagine cleaning them all - we have two and that’s bad enough.

Not to mention all the toilet brushes they have had to buy 😉

I don’t think it’s at that stage yet, at the moment Meghan has got the perfect photogenic instagram family that she can merch to her hearts content, once the kids are early teens and are no longer cute for the ‘gram, and King Charles possibly won’t be with us that is when we will see her make her move, once any inheritance is safely in their bank account first. Once William is King Harry will be completely superfluous to requirements, she will drop him like a stone and won’t look back.

'Decidedly rackety parents'? That's a bit harsh...

Only if she can keep her title . If not, she will hang in there.

Any inheritance Harry gets from his father will be ring fenced so that M won’t be able to get her hands on it. Trust funds would be set up for A@L by their grandfather.

Charles could live to 100 - I don’t think she’ll wait that out. Cannot see her spending her prime years watching the clock with an increasingly paranoid security obsessed husband and not bagging another millionaire/billionaire. Assuming he doesn’t put a gag order on her during the divorce, she’ll make vastly more for a tell all than she’d cop from a future inheritance which is likely ringfenced anyway. California is community property for divorce so she leaves with half before alimony and child maintenance are taken into account. Tongue in cheek but Musk is single at the moment…

Thank you @Serenster. Am catching up on the threads and really appreciate your insightful analysis

|I agree. I think there's been a couple of reported cases recently where embargoes have been breached. The one @Serenster linked above and one involving Matrix Chambers. All that really seems to happen is a public telling off by the judge to the legal team. No prison for contempt or anything particularly serious. The guilty talk about lessons learned and they are told to go on their way and do better next time. In any event, I doubt Harry gives a toss about consequences to hs legal team if he did breach, and would not accept any blame on himself. He has contempt for the opinion of the courts as he is not getting his way. He more or less threw his own legal team undertake bus in that interview, with the opening gambit of, "Nobody told me the court couldn't resolve this". If the judgment was handed down at 2pm, and the BBC interview that aired at 5pm was pre-recorded, I really do not see how that interview could have been organised, conducted, and put through the production process without a breach, even if it was just a matter of hours.

If I were Charles I'd be determined to live as long as possible to frustrate the pair of them if for no other reason. And in 7 years from now, Harry's potential role as Regent would evaporate .

I am not terribly well versed in US property but isn't a "downstairs loo" counted as a bathroom ? So bedrooms ensuite , family bathroom , as a pp said pool house probably has a shower room and a separate loo and the guest cottage will have one or two and probably a loo. And one or two loos somewhere for the security folk / gardeners / beekeepers etc.

I do realise I am overthinking this 😂🚽🛁🚿

The thing is, you don’t know when a draft judgement will be publicly handed down until you receive it. And it just lands on you without warning! It’s a complete nightmare if you are expecting something really important, and don’t know whether you can book a holiday or not. 🤣

When it comes to the Court of Appeal, you get an email from one of the judges’ clerk attaching the draft judgement and telling you when it will be handed down. Normally, that’s one or two weeks away. And at that stage you are bound by the embargo rules and are strictly limited in who you can tell and what you can do until it’s public.

The upshot being: Harry wouldn’t have been able to tee up an interview with the BBC for a specific date until he received the draft judgement, and at that stage he’s not allowed to talk the BBC.

If the judgment was handed down at 2pm, and the BBC interview that aired at 5pm was pre-recorded, I really do not see how that interview could have been organised, conducted, and put through the production process without a breach, even if it was just a matter of hours

If anyone could do it, it would be the BBC as they are experienced at doing stuff on the spot and have the resources and production teams who could manage it. So I think it's possible - but it'd have to been proposed to them beforehand. Technically you could do that without actually revealing the verdict though it does strongly indicate what's coming.

Did they pre-record x2 to suit both outcomes?

But would Harry really have a role as Regent?

If anything happened to William and a Regent was needed would it not be Catherine? And if she was unable (e.g. same accident), presumably a Counsellor of State who is actually a working Royal would be better? (Currently Edward/Sophie)

The Regent would be Catherine. Certainly not Harry.

So apart from my bathroom nonsense. I wondered when Harry would have to stump up costs. DS who has been the most junior of junior of juniory barristers in a previous job reckons in civil cases it is normally with 14 days of costs being appointed / awarded ( I am sure not the right word) . But he can't remember.

I've also over thought it @BasiliskStare and have concluded that even if many of them are just WCs, in British terms, that's still way more than a family of four needs, even with staff on site, and even with all the separate buildings. It baffles me 😣