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Harry's new interview 2

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Viviennemary · 03/05/2025 13:19

I just thought I would start second thread since I noticed the first one is full. It has certainly dominated media reporting. I saw a snippet on Sky news earlier. A document from Harry saying its a dereliction of duty to stop his security. Erm who just whizzed off to the USA and left all the duties behind. I havent watched the whole interview. I wonder if he'll appeal again.

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NewAgeNewMe · 04/05/2025 21:42

DancingFerret · 04/05/2025 20:32

Reportedly, the end date for the Netflix contract is October this year. Posters on other fora are of the opinion Harry's marriage is already past its sell by and he is smiling to order to comply with the contract and tolerating life in SoCal until he can return to the UK once and for all.

People have been predicting the end of the marriage since the start. Personally i think they love each other (In a toxic way) and won’t split. Folie a deux.

PullTheBricksDown · 04/05/2025 21:45

bluegreygreen · 04/05/2025 21:37

But would Harry really have a role as Regent?

If anything happened to William and a Regent was needed would it not be Catherine? And if she was unable (e.g. same accident), presumably a Counsellor of State who is actually a working Royal would be better? (Currently Edward/Sophie)

This came up on another thread. As things currently stand, if a Regent is needed because someone inherits the throne before they're 18, that person should be the next adult in line to the throne. That'd be Harry. Though it could be ruled out through a) a strict interpretation of them needing to be resident in the UK, and b) a very swift change in the law.

NormaMajors1992coat · 04/05/2025 21:46

If the judgment was handed down at 2pm, and the BBC interview that aired at 5pm was pre-recorded, I really do not see how that interview could have been organised, conducted, and put through the production process without a breach, even if it was just a matter of hours.

Could it not have been agreed in principle weeks in advance, set up as soon as Harry learned when the judgement was coming (so before the draft and not in response to it), filmed at 1430 or thereabouts? IANAL but this is fairly easily doable from a broadcasting perspective.

Serenster · 04/05/2025 21:47

The upshot being: Harry wouldn’t have been able to tee up an interview with the BBC for a specific date until he received the draft judgement, and at that stage he’s not allowed to talk the BBC.

Quoting myself, as I remembered that the Court announced a couple of days in advance that the judgment would be delivered at 2pm on Friday. So at that stage Harry could set up an interview with the BBC for 5pm on Friday, but he couldn’t tell them which way it would go.

Butteredtoast55 · 04/05/2025 21:48

I know I'm missing the point of this whole thread, but before the terrible misjudgement of the Oprah interview and subsequent shenanigans, couldn't Harry and Meghan have invited KC to visit them? Could they not still do that if they seriously wanted to reconcile and have him meet his grandchildren? I know that ship has probably sailed now but why hasn't this ever even been considered if Harry really cares so much about his family?

User14March · 04/05/2025 21:54

Butteredtoast55 · 04/05/2025 21:48

I know I'm missing the point of this whole thread, but before the terrible misjudgement of the Oprah interview and subsequent shenanigans, couldn't Harry and Meghan have invited KC to visit them? Could they not still do that if they seriously wanted to reconcile and have him meet his grandchildren? I know that ship has probably sailed now but why hasn't this ever even been considered if Harry really cares so much about his family?

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Similarly why couldn’t Thomas M, when apparently very happily in favour, meet H, in much earlier days, before all went south? I fear the answer may be the same for both, because M didn’t want either to happen.

smilesy · 04/05/2025 21:55

Butteredtoast55 · 04/05/2025 21:48

I know I'm missing the point of this whole thread, but before the terrible misjudgement of the Oprah interview and subsequent shenanigans, couldn't Harry and Meghan have invited KC to visit them? Could they not still do that if they seriously wanted to reconcile and have him meet his grandchildren? I know that ship has probably sailed now but why hasn't this ever even been considered if Harry really cares so much about his family?

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Difficult logistically as it would involve a Head of State visiting another country. He’s not just a bog standard grandad 😆 And he is (and was when Prince of Wales) an actual IPP. So that would mean that the US would in theory be responsible for his security 🤷‍♀️

TiredCatLady · 04/05/2025 21:55

Butteredtoast55 · 04/05/2025 21:48

I know I'm missing the point of this whole thread, but before the terrible misjudgement of the Oprah interview and subsequent shenanigans, couldn't Harry and Meghan have invited KC to visit them? Could they not still do that if they seriously wanted to reconcile and have him meet his grandchildren? I know that ship has probably sailed now but why hasn't this ever even been considered if Harry really cares so much about his family?

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Frankly: Because they don’t give a shit about him meeting his GC. They just want photo ops. If they invited him, his security would make it impossible for them to turn it into the media circus they’d need for the financials. Harry doesn’t want reconciliation - he wants his credit line from daddy restored.

NormaMajors1992coat · 04/05/2025 21:58

Serenster · 04/05/2025 21:36

The thing is, you don’t know when a draft judgement will be publicly handed down until you receive it. And it just lands on you without warning! It’s a complete nightmare if you are expecting something really important, and don’t know whether you can book a holiday or not. 🤣

When it comes to the Court of Appeal, you get an email from one of the judges’ clerk attaching the draft judgement and telling you when it will be handed down. Normally, that’s one or two weeks away. And at that stage you are bound by the embargo rules and are strictly limited in who you can tell and what you can do until it’s public.

The upshot being: Harry wouldn’t have been able to tee up an interview with the BBC for a specific date until he received the draft judgement, and at that stage he’s not allowed to talk the BBC.

Aaaah thank you, I understand - I assumed that they would be told in advance when to expect the draft and when it would be handed down. If they find that out and receive the draft simultaneously then maybe my plan wouldn’t work.

Although come to think of it, that info was announced the day before iirc - someone posted it on here - so it could still have worked without Harry having to communicate with anyone until 2pm. Location agreed in advance, plan to try and make it work asap, presenter and crew close by and ready to go.

PinkTonic · 04/05/2025 22:00

NormaMajors1992coat · 04/05/2025 20:23

When David Linley was born , he was 5th in the LOS . He is now 26th .
This is Harry’s future.

Surely Harry is Margaret in this scenario, or Anne, not David Linley who was a grandchild but never a child of the monarch.

So Anne was 2nd in line when she was born, Harry was 3rd. She is now 18th I think.

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Yes the original post on that subject was about A & L taking up their ‘rightful place’. Which is actually working for a living with a fairly distant connection to the British royal family despite having meaningless titles claimed by their grandiose and avaricious parents.

NormaMajors1992coat · 04/05/2025 22:02

Sorry @Serenstercross posted - I guess that’s what happened.

RandyRedHumpback · 04/05/2025 22:07

PullTheBricksDown · 04/05/2025 21:36

If the judgment was handed down at 2pm, and the BBC interview that aired at 5pm was pre-recorded, I really do not see how that interview could have been organised, conducted, and put through the production process without a breach, even if it was just a matter of hours

If anyone could do it, it would be the BBC as they are experienced at doing stuff on the spot and have the resources and production teams who could manage it. So I think it's possible - but it'd have to been proposed to them beforehand. Technically you could do that without actually revealing the verdict though it does strongly indicate what's coming.

True, and the venue for the interview was used in the CBS/Jane Pauley interview, so I assume it's some sort of media suite in a hotel. However, would Harry have been giving an interview if he'd won, I wonder? How would the interviewer have prepared her questions without some indication of which way things fell. Maybe, as pp said, she prepared for both eventualities.

Now I am wondering if Harry would have done an interview if he had won and what he would have said! Would he have been telling her he was planning to come over with the kids at the next available opportunity? Or making some other excuse why that wasn't happening, because I don't think MM wants to come to the UK even with IPP status and commensurate security.

StartupRepair · 04/05/2025 22:13

Winning the case would only have meant a review with possibly the same ultimate outcome. There was no outcome which would result in IPP being magically restored on the same day.

TheSecondMrsCampbellBlack · 04/05/2025 22:17

Profhilodisaster · 04/05/2025 18:38

I wonder how Meredith Maine is feeling (apparently she brokered the deal for the BBC interview) , possibly not quite as successful as she hoped.

She fucked up big time with this - nobody would blame her if she resigned

Profhilodisaster · 04/05/2025 22:24

smilesy · 04/05/2025 21:55

Difficult logistically as it would involve a Head of State visiting another country. He’s not just a bog standard grandad 😆 And he is (and was when Prince of Wales) an actual IPP. So that would mean that the US would in theory be responsible for his security 🤷‍♀️

Didn't he have sneaky holidays abroad with Camilla?

RandyRedHumpback · 04/05/2025 22:25

StartupRepair · 04/05/2025 22:13

Winning the case would only have meant a review with possibly the same ultimate outcome. There was no outcome which would result in IPP being magically restored on the same day.

True, but I wonder what Harry's expectation would have been as a result and what he would have been saying about his family and future dealings with them.

Mayhemabounds · 04/05/2025 22:26

TiredCatLady · 04/05/2025 21:55

Frankly: Because they don’t give a shit about him meeting his GC. They just want photo ops. If they invited him, his security would make it impossible for them to turn it into the media circus they’d need for the financials. Harry doesn’t want reconciliation - he wants his credit line from daddy restored.

Exactly this.

smilesy · 04/05/2025 22:30

Profhilodisaster · 04/05/2025 22:24

Didn't he have sneaky holidays abroad with Camilla?

Maybe, but I would imagine it would be easier to keep a private holiday under wraps as opposed to a visit to see his grandchildren at their home in LA 🤷‍♀️. Plus he wasn’t the actual King then. And most of the time that the Sussexes were in LA before the late Queen died, we had Covid restrictions

Mayhemabounds · 04/05/2025 22:33

TiredCatLady · 04/05/2025 20:04

Point is - I don’t think this was ever the “real” H.

And that’s deeply sad.

I stand by what I’ve said previously, I think he’ll end up a bitter, old divorced man living on his own in one of the lodges on Windsor Park. Grace and Favour as he has bugger all left after losing the house and paying support and alimony. And whatever is in the book his ex writes afterward, ensures he’ll probably never date again.

I just don’t think the RF will have him back living in a grace and favour home. He will totally lose face if he returns alone to live like Andrew. I can see him living like Thomas Markle does now. Isolated, down on his luck and broke. His kids might visit but he’ll be an embarrassment. She will take the alimony etc and live a very comfortable life with staff to look after the kids.

Viviennemary · 04/05/2025 23:54

jeffgoldblum · 04/05/2025 14:57

While I do understand your thoughts, and I don’t blame Meghan as much as I do Harry , I’m afraid her behaviour has not been particularly good either.
her comments and spiteful behaviour towards the queen and Catherine isn’t the behaviour of a particulary nice person.

she Displays all the behaviour of a bully.
my sympathy is equally limited, she set out to get herself a high profile, rich husband.
she succeeded beyond her wildest dreams , he has elevated her far beyond any station she could have gotten on her own merits.

if she finds her life not up to what she imagined then thats her cross to bear!
we are all being polite here and not stating the simple truth, Meghan is a high class gold digger who got her man.
like many women before her whether it is worth it , well thats her problem.

Exactly. Shame you have to take the man as well as the wealth and position.

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PullTheBricksDown · 05/05/2025 00:02

Viviennemary · 04/05/2025 23:54

Exactly. Shame you have to take the man as well as the wealth and position.

The Charlotte Lucas model for this is to busy yourself with enjoying your lovely home, gardens and children. Meghan seems now to be getting the hang of it. Not sure Harry as Mr Collins has found his Lady Catherine de Bourgh to babble on to and fawn over yet.

Choux · 05/05/2025 01:33

Serenster · 04/05/2025 21:47

The upshot being: Harry wouldn’t have been able to tee up an interview with the BBC for a specific date until he received the draft judgement, and at that stage he’s not allowed to talk the BBC.

Quoting myself, as I remembered that the Court announced a couple of days in advance that the judgment would be delivered at 2pm on Friday. So at that stage Harry could set up an interview with the BBC for 5pm on Friday, but he couldn’t tell them which way it would go.

Which could be why the BBC was expecting a 10 minute interview and then got 30 minutes. A 10 minute interview would have been all that was needed if Harry had won.

Profhilodisaster · 05/05/2025 01:55

Choux · 05/05/2025 01:33

Which could be why the BBC was expecting a 10 minute interview and then got 30 minutes. A 10 minute interview would have been all that was needed if Harry had won.

The BBC probably thought that but either way Harry wouldn't have missed the chance to air all his grievances!

Choux · 05/05/2025 02:22

Bathrooms and Security costs:

It’s not unusual for master and guest bedrooms in high end homes to have his and hers en-suites. The downstairs loo is known in American speak as either a half bath or powder room and would probably be included in the 16. One way of getting to 16 is 4 bedrooms with his and hers en-suites, 5 bedrooms with one ensuite, downstairs loo, shower room at the pool, shower room / spa at the gym and a staff bathroom.

If one 24/7 guard costs $800k a year that’s a lot of money. If you don’t go anywhere then one person at your property all the time might be enough. But maybe if you are out for lunch or shopping or meetings you need two for that in addition to the one at home guarding the property. Plus the kids are now at school so I assume they want them to have their own security when outside the house for school, play dates, sports and activities, birthday parties of schoolfriends etc And when they do a trip to New York or somewhere that needs more guards plus expenses if you take one you know and trust as well as get NYC based security who have the local knowledge. If Harry is seeing paps lurking where there are none, feeling paranoid and fearful of the press and the public they could easily be spending $3-500 a year or more on security. Plus the housekeepers, nannies, gardeners, maintenance, house manager, chef etc. Someone said a team of 15 staff - is that confirmed or speculation and does it include the security? Add annual property taxes, utilities on a large property, school fees, holidays by private jet to exclusive places etc. Even if all this is only $2-3m a year then for the next 30 years that’s $60-90m spending and that has to come out of the post production and post tax profits from the Netflix, Spotify, As Ever jam businesses. It needs some serious income generation over a prolonged period but Spotify have already bowed out and the Netflix deal does not seem a winning formula likely to be renewed. I can see them doing ever more desperate things - Spare 2 - and I can also see Meghan doing a post divorce book of her own to tell ‘her side of the story’.

William is said to be stubborn but once he is king and has the untold wealth I can see him giving Harry an allowance to keep him quiet on the understanding the money stops if he steps out of line. Whether Harry’s mental health will be good enough for him to stick to living quietly in a royal estate as a kept man while feeling humiliated at how his life turned out is uncertain.

User14March · 05/05/2025 05:05

Choux · 05/05/2025 02:22

Bathrooms and Security costs:

It’s not unusual for master and guest bedrooms in high end homes to have his and hers en-suites. The downstairs loo is known in American speak as either a half bath or powder room and would probably be included in the 16. One way of getting to 16 is 4 bedrooms with his and hers en-suites, 5 bedrooms with one ensuite, downstairs loo, shower room at the pool, shower room / spa at the gym and a staff bathroom.

If one 24/7 guard costs $800k a year that’s a lot of money. If you don’t go anywhere then one person at your property all the time might be enough. But maybe if you are out for lunch or shopping or meetings you need two for that in addition to the one at home guarding the property. Plus the kids are now at school so I assume they want them to have their own security when outside the house for school, play dates, sports and activities, birthday parties of schoolfriends etc And when they do a trip to New York or somewhere that needs more guards plus expenses if you take one you know and trust as well as get NYC based security who have the local knowledge. If Harry is seeing paps lurking where there are none, feeling paranoid and fearful of the press and the public they could easily be spending $3-500 a year or more on security. Plus the housekeepers, nannies, gardeners, maintenance, house manager, chef etc. Someone said a team of 15 staff - is that confirmed or speculation and does it include the security? Add annual property taxes, utilities on a large property, school fees, holidays by private jet to exclusive places etc. Even if all this is only $2-3m a year then for the next 30 years that’s $60-90m spending and that has to come out of the post production and post tax profits from the Netflix, Spotify, As Ever jam businesses. It needs some serious income generation over a prolonged period but Spotify have already bowed out and the Netflix deal does not seem a winning formula likely to be renewed. I can see them doing ever more desperate things - Spare 2 - and I can also see Meghan doing a post divorce book of her own to tell ‘her side of the story’.

William is said to be stubborn but once he is king and has the untold wealth I can see him giving Harry an allowance to keep him quiet on the understanding the money stops if he steps out of line. Whether Harry’s mental health will be good enough for him to stick to living quietly in a royal estate as a kept man while feeling humiliated at how his life turned out is uncertain.

Agree. There are other expenses too, clothing. For her & kids likely to run to a few million a year, more when jewellery & tweakments, hair etc added. If H really is tight won’t he hate that & raise eyebrows on some level too?

Then other misc expenses too & the unforeseen. Plus renos or a wanted upgrade on house.

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