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Best advice for Harry going forward?

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SandyThumb · 03/05/2025 11:43

I have all the same initial reactions as many others on MN regarding Harry i.e. whiner, grifter, stupid, entitled etc and it's easy to dole out the criticism.

However while I wouldn't say I have sympathy for him, as so much of his situation is of his own making, I actually do have some underlying feelings of concern for him and his future (and children).

He reminds me an awful lot of a relative of mine who is neurodiverse with a mild learning disability and a tendency to be self-absorbed with an overdeveloped victim complex - always lashing out, blaming others, seeing conspiracy where there is none etc.

Harry is clearly a damaged man, with childhood trauma and issues which continue to plague his mental health.
As with my relative, he has grown up with a support network which has probably quietly managed and enabled his passage through life, but when big outbursts happen (as have happened in our family too) everyone backs off and 'grey rocks' him until he has calmed down. Some people just give up, too exhausted by the constant drama of it all.

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Munnygirl · 05/05/2025 16:44

myrtleWilson · 05/05/2025 15:24

@Milaking but what do I get going to Harry's consultancy.... what business problems is he going to solve, where is his track record in strategic planning, his experience in financial restructuring, or is it more of a feng shui type offering?

How to moan and get professionally ahead would be his slogan

BruFord · 05/05/2025 16:51

MaturingCheeseball · 05/05/2025 16:43

Someone in The Times comments had a reasonable suggestion: he could be a volunteer firefighter. It suits his skillset and is a worthy job. So, so much better than poncing round pretending that he is performing public duties or whatever he claimed. He is now plain old Harry Sussex - a 40-year-old man who needs a job and a reason to get out of the bed he’s made for himself.

@MaturingCheeseball Yes, he’d probably be v. good in that role.

It wouldn’t pay any bills though and they need $$$$$$ to maintain their lifestyle. Meghan would need to bring in the cash.

He could start as a volunteer, do the training and become a paid firefighter though.

Milaking · 05/05/2025 17:37

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/05/2025 18:18

Someone in The Times comments had a reasonable suggestion: he could be a volunteer firefighter. It suits his skillset and is a worthy job

It's not a bad idea, @MaturingCheeseball, but I do wonder how it would go down at home if it didn't bring in any money

Also he's prone to a "why am I having to do this?" attitude unless something centres him, so it's hard not to wonder how long it would last

Mayhemabounds · 05/05/2025 18:21

BruFord · 05/05/2025 16:20

He has set up foundations, he rides and play polo, has excellent people skills (he has proved that) but he was up against powerful people - the press and people who make a living from scandal in the royal family. He was also a soldier. In America these are all good assets.

@Milaking Hmm, one of my American relatives is a business consultant, goes all over the world doing it. She has excellent qualifications, years of experiences managing multi-million dollar projects, teaches/has taught at several universities.

Yes, well-known names are hired for publicity and to be the face of a project/company, but consultants need business expertise.

If PH gets himself some qualifications and is willing to learn, he could perhaps be a consultant in a decade or so. He could also set up his own business and if he makes a success of it, could ge hired by other people. But he doesn’t have the proven track record yet.

The very idea of him being a consultant in anything is ridiculous. He has no intelligence, work ethic or life experience.

Theunamedcat · 05/05/2025 18:23

Milaking · 05/05/2025 14:14

I can understand our King not wanting to cope with this but, honestly, all these peopl who are so against Harry, do they really feel good about what they are all doing to this family. Whatever you think of Harry… he has never been connected to a paper bag of money given by Arabs, never been accused of adultery, never been involved like Andrew. And actually a lot of,people like him. Cast your mind back when Meghan first arrived it was suggested the live in Africa. All that is left for him is to set up some consultancy…he has skills and talents. stay out of the public eye for sometime. Prince Harry, you need a break. Remember, a lot of people like your personality…people have to work so hard to put you down.

Nobody is hurting Harry's family as much as he is hopefully he changes before his children become too self aware of how they are being used as ammunition in a one sided war

Mylovelygreendress · 05/05/2025 18:24

Mayhemabounds · 05/05/2025 18:21

The very idea of him being a consultant in anything is ridiculous. He has no intelligence, work ethic or life experience.

Is he still a CHIMPO ?

Theunamedcat · 05/05/2025 18:27

Hardcrustsfromnowon654 · 04/05/2025 19:22

Ok so Charles didn’t write it, but same difference with Harry. They both worked with someone who effectively wrote a book on their behalf.

And no I didn’t read it; watching the obsequious Dimbleby televised interview was quite sufficient.

And if you actually read Spare; Harry didn’t say anything that bad! A lot was made of it at the time but I am sure he could have revealed a lot more and said a lot worse tbh.

Also, you can’t really equate the two because Charles’s book was published thirty years ago, so it’s bound to be different in tone and content. The climate in which Charles’s book was written was more deferential , and as the internet was only in its infancy in 1994, extracts weren’t spun by media outlets across the globe in to people’s mobile phones. Therefore not a fair comparison.

If you didn't read it you can't really know what was in it can you?

Maybe he did talk about his penis and losing his virginity and insinuate moments with cream that smelled like his mother and again the royal penis

Or maybe not

ShamedBySiri · 05/05/2025 18:29

I bet Harry can’t even bear to look at the celebrations, it will be eating him up alive because deep down he knows he’s fucked up….royally.

I do wonder if he sits in a darkened room watching events like today feeling a terrible sense of loss followed by depression and a black mood that fills the entire mansion like a dark cloud. One almost feels sorry for Meghan having to deal with it.
Or maybe he just shrugs his shoulders and goes to the beach glad to be away from all that and knowing his children are free to flow whatever path they choose in life as they grow up.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 05/05/2025 18:30

He's still there as CHIMPO on BetterUp's site, @Mylovelygreendress:
That said I doubt it's been updated recently because Africa Parks is mentioned

https://www.betterup.com/en-gb/about-us/leadership-team/prince-harry-the-duke-of-sussex

jeffgoldblum · 05/05/2025 18:32

BigWillyLittleTodger · 05/05/2025 15:04

There certainly wasn't the group think you are maybe trying to portray when I was serving.

I have serving friends who certainly are serving for King and Country, honestly what a day for that poster to pick to try and imply otherwise.

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My dh served and he and all his colleagues swore the oath and stood by it!!

jeffgoldblum · 05/05/2025 18:34

Rummly · 05/05/2025 15:26

I’m fascinated to know how playing polo sets someone up for consultancy, advisory and leadership work.

What about real tennis, Eton fives, grouse shooting and fly fishing? Do they produce inspiring figureheads?

I was equally surprised and confused why playing polo was worth a mention!!
I mean the poster is aware that Harry picked it up because Charles and William played polo too ! 🤷‍♀️

Milaking · 05/05/2025 18:59

This Harry business is like a disputed Octopus energy bill… the longer it goes on the harder it is to solve.

I still think from the outset Harry and Meghan proved too popular and all the guns including the powerful press were brought up to force them into exile.

not usually interested in royals but I thought the bullying was out of hand. Whatever Meghan does is wrong and against what Kate is doing. It is madness and reflects badly on a family unable to reconcile. Of course, when William is King he will be written out of history. This is only the beginning.

This is where I will stop commenting to avoid bringing out the worse out of the haters.

Uricon2 · 05/05/2025 19:11

You're entitled to your views @Milaking but using "haters" (twice) really doesn't help you make any points. It's something off the "forelock tugging sycophantic racist serfs (etc)" bingo card that has worn extremely thin on this board.

NewAgeNewMe · 05/05/2025 19:12

Criticism is not hate.

EsmaCannonball · 05/05/2025 19:40

I think Harry enjoyed the status and adoration that came from events like today's celebrations but wasn't at all interested in the history and meaning of them. Didn't he blow off a fundraiser for the Royal Marines so he could tout for a job for Meghan at The Lion King premiere?

As for his children, they are being set up for a life of celebrity influencing. I predict their parents will push them as junior celebrity activists, entitled to some kind of political influence as a birthright. So many famous people manage to keep their children completely out of the spotlight - don't put out photographs, don't make videos, don't mention them at all - but Harry and Meghan obviously don't want that.

BruFord · 05/05/2025 20:17

Of course, when William is King he will be written out of history.

@Milaking That's what PH wanted, isn’t it, to have privacy and make his own way in the world?

A monarch’s siblings and their descendants do gradually fade from the spotlight even when they don’t move abroad. Princess Margaret’s children don’t get much attention, for example. All of the late Queen’s grand children will also fade into the background once William’s children are adults. It’s the way the monarchy works. 🤷

CamillaMacauley · 05/05/2025 21:49

Apologies if this has been covered and I’ve missed it but do people think when Charles dies Harry will come to the funeral? I’m assuming so but maybe a literal fly in and fly out affair without talking to anyone/William.

Munnygirl · 05/05/2025 22:01

Milaking · 05/05/2025 18:59

This Harry business is like a disputed Octopus energy bill… the longer it goes on the harder it is to solve.

I still think from the outset Harry and Meghan proved too popular and all the guns including the powerful press were brought up to force them into exile.

not usually interested in royals but I thought the bullying was out of hand. Whatever Meghan does is wrong and against what Kate is doing. It is madness and reflects badly on a family unable to reconcile. Of course, when William is King he will be written out of history. This is only the beginning.

This is where I will stop commenting to avoid bringing out the worse out of the haters.

Calling people who have a different opinion to you are not haters. It’s getting so boring that you can’t think of another word to use but not surprising as all their fans do this.

ThatAvidViewer · 05/05/2025 22:02

Milaking · 05/05/2025 18:59

This Harry business is like a disputed Octopus energy bill… the longer it goes on the harder it is to solve.

I still think from the outset Harry and Meghan proved too popular and all the guns including the powerful press were brought up to force them into exile.

not usually interested in royals but I thought the bullying was out of hand. Whatever Meghan does is wrong and against what Kate is doing. It is madness and reflects badly on a family unable to reconcile. Of course, when William is King he will be written out of history. This is only the beginning.

This is where I will stop commenting to avoid bringing out the worse out of the haters.

You're wrong. They were never more popular than William and Catherine—then or now. Every poll from that time, and even today, shows William and Catherine consistently ahead in popularity.

That's just how the royal family works: if you're not the heir or future king or queen, you naturally fade into the background.

Harry understood that. When George was born, he even said he wanted to do as much as he could while he still had the spotlight—because once George got older, no one would care about him anymore.

TheMeasure · 05/05/2025 22:03

Yes, of course he will come. Unfortunately, there will be a lot of chat in the media about him, rather than the matter in hand but it is right that he should be there.
Of course, it would be preferable if he could make his peace with his father first - by which I mean apologise (with the right motivation) for his appalling behaviour but I won't hold my breath.
The subsequent coronation? Not so sure...

Mylovelygreendress · 05/05/2025 22:14

I am not convinced that Harry will be invited to William’s Coronation. On the off-chance he is , Meghan won’t be there . There is zero chance that she would curtsy to Catherine .

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 05/05/2025 22:26

Never complain, never explain. Grin

At least he doesn't appear to have the same proclivities as his uncle and grandfather.

Who, in my opinion, were far worse than being a tattletale.

prelovedusername · 06/05/2025 07:57

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 05/05/2025 22:26

Never complain, never explain. Grin

At least he doesn't appear to have the same proclivities as his uncle and grandfather.

Who, in my opinion, were far worse than being a tattletale.

You should look up the details of the infamous strip pool party in Las Vegas.

MyOtherCarIsAPorsche · 06/05/2025 08:13

prelovedusername · 06/05/2025 07:57

You should look up the details of the infamous strip pool party in Las Vegas.

I know what Philip did in Malta.

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