Best advice for Harry going forward?

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I have all the same initial reactions as many others on MN regarding Harry i.e. whiner, grifter, stupid, entitled etc and it's easy to dole out the criticism.

However while I wouldn't say I have sympathy for him, as so much of his situation is of his own making, I actually do have some underlying feelings of concern for him and his future (and children).

He reminds me an awful lot of a relative of mine who is neurodiverse with a mild learning disability and a tendency to be self-absorbed with an overdeveloped victim complex - always lashing out, blaming others, seeing conspiracy where there is none etc.

Harry is clearly a damaged man, with childhood trauma and issues which continue to plague his mental health.
As with my relative, he has grown up with a support network which has probably quietly managed and enabled his passage through life, but when big outbursts happen (as have happened in our family too) everyone backs off and 'grey rocks' him until he has calmed down. Some people just give up, too exhausted by the constant drama of it all.

I thought we'd agreed to disagree? I'm not going to talk about Harry's book any further. It's crass, vulgar and cruel. He made millions from it, so I hope he's happy.
That's all I have to say, so I will end it there

I believe that was Mylovelygreendress‘s implication at 19.26 but no matter.

And we did indeed agree to disagree, and I am happy to, but I was responding to the further post you made at 19.58. I assume that’s allowed?

Someone hit the nail on the head above - he needs to SHUT UP!!! Him and his wife moaned and moaned and moaned that they got no privacy, then they moved to America and did every public interview under the sun …moaning and moaning and moaning about how they got no privacy, it is entitlement.. and it is exhausting and this is why people don’t like them. I read a great article on him that said he needs to be grateful for what he has as he has (2 lovely kids a wife a million++ $$ house in a beautiful area/health) more than 98% of the world yet he still pleads for sympathy. He sadly won’t get it as it is tone deaf. It’s quite clear the publicity they’ve brought on themselves/his book etc has ruined his relationship with his family yet he continues to do things in public to try and win back their attention… it’s clearly not working Harry so pleeeease be quiet!

I never said anything wasn't allowed. Please don't make this about me.

I really wasn’t.

Have a good evening.

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Diana was persuaded to do her interview in response to Charles’s remember?

Diana was gagging to tell her story and saw a credible platform to do it.

I read Andre Agassi’s book which was also ghost written by J. R. Moehringer and it is hard to believe the same person wrote both !

Yes but a ghost writer is representing the person telling the story. Maybe the tone and content reflects the person telling the story!

Harry didn’t say anything that bad? 😆

You raise an interesting question, what will H do next?

IMHO, H is racing down Andrew's path. Hollywood is very rotten under the glitz as countless stars have attested. H wrote in Spare about taking mushrooms at Courtney Cox's house, so what other parties did he attend where he was impaired and anything could have happened and been photographed or recorded? What are we going to see/hear in the next few years?

And for everyone who believes in NDAs...take a long hard look at the name Stormy Daniels. She had an NDA, and we know all about her relationship with a man with far more power and far greater vindictiveness than H.

Halfway through the book it totally changes tone in my view. The first half was written by the ghost writer and I believe the second half is Harry unfiltered. They are so very different. I am wondering why .

I find it interesting that H says he wants a reconciliation with his family but then offers to do nothing to facilitate it - theres no recognition that there's been hurt on both sides. It's as though he wants someone else to make it happen in a 'I'll get my people to talk to your people' way.

I agree wholeheartedly!!
I also side eye the fergie book comparisons too!
I mean obviously.. a children’s book .. a weight loss book and romance novels are exactly the same as a poison filled book exposing private details of your families life’s!

I’m going to have to disagree too!
harrys book was a disgraceful flight of fantasy.. not that bad?
he actually wrote about bombing his own father with glee!!

Fergie wrote a memoir of her time as a Royal. Very respectful to the Queen as I recall but scathing about the 'grey men'. Only bit I remember is her saying when she was first married, Andrew was at sea and their house wasn't built, so she lived in some rooms in Buckingham palace. Her space was really dark and dim and she was told off for moving furniture to get more light in.

It’s a very good point that Harry talks about reconciliation with his family but nobody ever talks about Thomas Markle. I get it’s Harry not Meghan doing the talking but there obviously is no sign of Megan reconciling with Thomas.

which leads me to suspect one of two things.

Either people of no value to them for the purpose of furthering their own careers/standing aren’t worth reconciling with.

Or they can’t forgive Thomas for agreeing to have his photo taken by the paparazzi and see that as a gross betrayal of trust and can’t forgive him. Which would be rather ironic that after their Oprah interview, writing a book, slagging the RF off at every opportunity they seem to think that they’ve done nothing wrong. 🤷‍♀️

From the very start even before Mexit happened I’ve always thought there was something very odd about the way Megan can apparently just discard people without a backward glance. The lack of family and indeed friends from her side at the wedding was really telling. Celebs were invited who said afterwards they thought it was odd they were invited as they’d only met Megan once, etc. seems it’s all about image and how useful someone might be. I wonder how many of her ex Suits colleagues who came to the wedding are still in touch with her…I suspect none. She even dropped her ex best friend like a hot potato.

The person who comes out of this best is her ex husband. He must have been offered some serious money to spill the beans about her and never has.

The chef boyfriend has never spoken out either.

Maybe they both had NDA’s slapped on them or maybe they are decent and don’t want to bad mouth her or maybe (which I doubt) there is nothing bad to say.

My mother (think I’ve said before) is a huge H&M fan. She sees nothing wrong with spare, Oprah or NF and thinks it’s the big evil RF to blame! Also she can’t see that maybe the royals have been hurt by H&M at all.

I think people have to sign up and agree to an NDA, but yes they could have been paid off to sign one I guess.

Oh yes I've no doubt that's what he wants he wants someone else to get his family to call him so in his next interview he can gleefully say they called him

My otherwise intelligent sister is like this too. Goes unhinged at the mention of Kate & Willam, champions H&M and has even insinuated that Kate didn’t have cancer. It’s like a cult or brainwashing. I avoid the topic now.

Whichever way, Harry will make sure that his family looks bad, and he looks like the eternal victim. It's like an addiction.

Some corners of the internet are very dark.

It’s really weird how my mother is though she hasn’t said that about Kate (would get short shrift) but yes you have my sympathy! It’s like my mum can’t see the RF side at all. Bizarre.

I have a colleague who has that BuzzFeed article on her phone, the one which shows Meghan was unfairly compared to Kate. She just keeps bringing that out as evidence, and won't engage. It's very odd!