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Harry's new interview

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Viviennemary · 02/05/2025 17:49

Harry has just given an interview quite a long one. I only heard a snippet and i'm totally incensed. Harry has said he doesn't know how long Charles has left. Who says that on TV for the whole nation to hear. What is the matter with the man. He is an absolute disgrace.

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IcedPurple · 03/05/2025 10:58

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:56

It is not a matter of being happy or not. It is one thing to be estranged from part of your family ( he is still close to the Spencers' side of his family and has friends in the UK ), but not being able to bring your kids safely to your country is a totally different matter. He should be able to travel Safely to his country with his children whenever he chooses to.

Harry has no more entitlement to 'safety' than any other citizen.

But fortunately for him, he and his family are subject to regular threat assessments and provided he cooperates, all relevant security will be provided.

Isn't that great?

MayaKovskaya · 03/05/2025 10:58

NewAgeNewMe · 03/05/2025 10:45

Harry has security but needs to give notice. How many bloody times do posters have to say this???

I don't know.
His family doesn't decide security.
His father doesn't decide security.
Harry gets taxpayer funded security whenever he comes to the UK.
It's the scope of it that's the problem.

Baital · 03/05/2025 10:59

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:56

It is not a matter of being happy or not. It is one thing to be estranged from part of your family ( he is still close to the Spencers' side of his family and has friends in the UK ), but not being able to bring your kids safely to your country is a totally different matter. He should be able to travel Safely to his country with his children whenever he chooses to.

He can travel safely.

The British government will provide an appropriate level of security (which it doesn't for women escaping domestic violence)

It doesn't suit his vanity and entitlement

TeenyTotAndTiny · 03/05/2025 11:00

Jux · 02/05/2025 19:09

Seems it's not Harry's turn to have The Ginger Braincell at the moment.

What is that supposed to mean? You’re Gingerist! Or maybe you were having a Blonde Braincell moment or a Black Braincell moment or a Brown Braincell moment. Or Pink, Blue, Green, Grey, White Braincell moment.

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 11:00

The only people that have limited understanding on what is going on is people that are continuing to defend this debacle.
The reason why Harry had a case to begin with is because given the result on the risk assessment that was done on his situation, he was entitled to a certain type of security which is the one he is actually requesting.

MayaKovskaya · 03/05/2025 11:00

"His family don't care if he lives or dies" has to be one of the most nonsensical pieces of hyperbole I've ever read on here.
Why don't people inform themselves of the basics?

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 03/05/2025 11:01

As far as I am aware he gets full protection via Ravec if he gives 28 days’ notice.
I am sure if it were an emergency it would get sorted.
But he wants it whenever he decides to visit, on his terms.
We don’t just have a team of highly trained protection officers sitting in a bunker waiting for him to take over.
He could easily slip into this country with his family without fanfare but the fact is they his wife wants the fanfare. Her personal brand relies upon it.
It is the status he wants.
I do get that he has a unique space in world history as Diana’s son. She was the most famous person on the planet at one point and her death made that fame eternal.

IcedPurple · 03/05/2025 11:03

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 11:00

The only people that have limited understanding on what is going on is people that are continuing to defend this debacle.
The reason why Harry had a case to begin with is because given the result on the risk assessment that was done on his situation, he was entitled to a certain type of security which is the one he is actually requesting.

He didn't have a case. It got thrown out of the courts.

You seem to be on 'auto pilot' shall we say and don't respond to comments. But can you specify the point of law on which you believe the three High Court judges erred?

MayaKovskaya · 03/05/2025 11:04

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 11:00

The only people that have limited understanding on what is going on is people that are continuing to defend this debacle.
The reason why Harry had a case to begin with is because given the result on the risk assessment that was done on his situation, he was entitled to a certain type of security which is the one he is actually requesting.

No. He's entitled to security as decided on his needs. He gets security. He is protected, on our tax money. What he's not getting is protection at the high level allocated to KC and the PoW.
This has been proven time and time again. Read what the judge said:
"A sense of grievance is not a legal argument".
Harry relies in being Royal. He is a full on royalist, very arrogant and very entitled. He chose to live abroad, he chose not to be a working royal, so his needs were reassesed.
It's not "bashing" to understand this.

Serenster · 03/05/2025 11:05

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 11:00

The only people that have limited understanding on what is going on is people that are continuing to defend this debacle.
The reason why Harry had a case to begin with is because given the result on the risk assessment that was done on his situation, he was entitled to a certain type of security which is the one he is actually requesting.

And that risk assessment was premised on him:

(a) living in the UK; and
(b) carrying out royal duties as a senior member of fhe royal family.

Neither of which would be the case going forward.

Risk assessments change when the risks change. The above factors mean his risk assessment was always going to have to be reviewed.

sualipa · 03/05/2025 11:05

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:38

What I find repugnant is people in this thread trying to defend all of this.
I do not care about what you think of Harry and Meghan, Thomas Markle and so on

This man was born into this family, served his country in any way possible including actually going to war.

He and his family are exposed to an extremely high level of security and his entitled to the level of security that he is requesting - this is a matter of fact.

His family not caring about whether him and his children live or die in the eventuality that they come to visit the UK tell me all I need to know about these family and about people that are defending this.

Rest assured that people that are neither royalists nor H&M fabs are watching and many may be viewing this latest piece of news with silent disgust.

No I don't see people in this country taking to the streets and trying to dismantle the monarchy, but I can see them losing respect and relevancy with each day passing and the Monarchy fading into complete irrelevancy in a generation.

Edited

Well said—this is likely the prevailing sentiment across the country. He extended the olive branch, almost out of sheer desperation. If his brother and father fail to make any effort, all their empty talk about empathy, compassion, and the touchy-feely rhetoric they seem to struggle with will ring hollow for many. It's 2025, not 1825 and after all said and done this is a parenting site not a stroll around Bedlam.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 03/05/2025 11:05

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 11:00

The only people that have limited understanding on what is going on is people that are continuing to defend this debacle.
The reason why Harry had a case to begin with is because given the result on the risk assessment that was done on his situation, he was entitled to a certain type of security which is the one he is actually requesting.

And they still said no. Case closed 🤷🏼‍♀️

MayaKovskaya · 03/05/2025 11:06

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 03/05/2025 11:01

As far as I am aware he gets full protection via Ravec if he gives 28 days’ notice.
I am sure if it were an emergency it would get sorted.
But he wants it whenever he decides to visit, on his terms.
We don’t just have a team of highly trained protection officers sitting in a bunker waiting for him to take over.
He could easily slip into this country with his family without fanfare but the fact is they his wife wants the fanfare. Her personal brand relies upon it.
It is the status he wants.
I do get that he has a unique space in world history as Diana’s son. She was the most famous person on the planet at one point and her death made that fame eternal.

He visited his father last year at very short notice. He was fully protected.
Harry knows this. His fans know this. It's all about his grievances now.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 03/05/2025 11:07

I prefer to base my arguments and reasoning on the professionals who read and oversaw this case and decided his security arrangements did not need reviewing or changing. Not the keyboard warriors stanning Harry and Meghan 🤣

myrtleWilson · 03/05/2025 11:08

@LipglossAlly do you actually ever read and take in any responses to you?

Some questions @LipglossAlly

a) How did Charles block the late Queen's offer as relayed in her letter regarding safety of H&M?
b) what is your understanding of the level of security assessment approach applied to H&M given their unique circumstances?

BackinBlack24 · 03/05/2025 11:08

I think maybe he meant it in the context of they don’t speak therefore he doesn’t know how sick Charles is ? But I personally think Charles is a lot sicker than they have said

HashtagShitShop · 03/05/2025 11:08

Helloworlditsmeagain · 02/05/2025 19:32

She was stuck in a loveless marriage in the royal family all eyes were on her. If her husband showed her love she wouldn't have cheated. She was faithful to Dodi Fayed and made her feel loved. Diana was the nations favourite in the 80's and 90's. She was popular and the press wanted a piece of her until a tragic accident happened.

She was with Dodi for a matter of weeks, he cheated on a fiancee to try ensnare her for his father to get him one step closer to the royal family. They were essentially at the 'seeing each other' phase.
Although there was an emotional affair hangover with Camilla (also not good), the actual first person to sleep with another person outside of the marriage was Diana with her bodyguard.

MayaKovskaya · 03/05/2025 11:08

sualipa · 03/05/2025 11:05

Well said—this is likely the prevailing sentiment across the country. He extended the olive branch, almost out of sheer desperation. If his brother and father fail to make any effort, all their empty talk about empathy, compassion, and the touchy-feely rhetoric they seem to struggle with will ring hollow for many. It's 2025, not 1825 and after all said and done this is a parenting site not a stroll around Bedlam.

They have no "touchy feely rhetoric". They are the Head of State and the next in line. They prefer to keep their private lives private. Whatever they say to Harry is private. Whatever he recounts is unlikely to be the truth. He has monetised gossip and untruths about them for 5 years.
This is about security.
Harry is either very badly informed, or lying.

miraxxx · 03/05/2025 11:10

sualipa · 03/05/2025 11:05

Well said—this is likely the prevailing sentiment across the country. He extended the olive branch, almost out of sheer desperation. If his brother and father fail to make any effort, all their empty talk about empathy, compassion, and the touchy-feely rhetoric they seem to struggle with will ring hollow for many. It's 2025, not 1825 and after all said and done this is a parenting site not a stroll around Bedlam.

The delusion is strong.

SuperTrooper14 · 03/05/2025 11:10

LipglossAlly · 03/05/2025 10:38

What I find repugnant is people in this thread trying to defend all of this.
I do not care about what you think of Harry and Meghan, Thomas Markle and so on

This man was born into this family, served his country in any way possible including actually going to war.

He and his family are exposed to an extremely high level of security and his entitled to the level of security that he is requesting - this is a matter of fact.

His family not caring about whether him and his children live or die in the eventuality that they come to visit the UK tell me all I need to know about these family and about people that are defending this.

Rest assured that people that are neither royalists nor H&M fabs are watching and many may be viewing this latest piece of news with silent disgust.

No I don't see people in this country taking to the streets and trying to dismantle the monarchy, but I can see them losing respect and relevancy with each day passing and the Monarchy fading into complete irrelevancy in a generation.

Edited

The fact is, he already receives high level security when he comes to the UK – he just has to give a month's notice of when he's coming. But that's not good enough for him – he wants us as British tax payers to fund high level security wherever he is and whenever he wants it, at the drop of a hat. He wants the Met's Protection Squad on speed-dial, in other words, and he's already spaffed millions of our money forcing the Govt to fight a legal action he was always never going to win.

NOT objecting to such a waste of public money is what's truly appalling.

MayaKovskaya · 03/05/2025 11:10

BackinBlack24 · 03/05/2025 11:08

I think maybe he meant it in the context of they don’t speak therefore he doesn’t know how sick Charles is ? But I personally think Charles is a lot sicker than they have said

Perhaps - understandably, they are loathe to give Harry details for fear that he would spill it all out on some chat show or in some magazine.
For money.

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 03/05/2025 11:11

miraxxx · 03/05/2025 11:10

The delusion is strong.

They seem to think that spreading their misinformation loudly enough is going to change RAVEC, the royal family AND the nation’s mind. It’s quite cute really! Just think of them as a vocal minority 🤣

IcedPurple · 03/05/2025 11:11

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 03/05/2025 11:07

I prefer to base my arguments and reasoning on the professionals who read and oversaw this case and decided his security arrangements did not need reviewing or changing. Not the keyboard warriors stanning Harry and Meghan 🤣

The only other option is to believe that the judiciary, the Home Office and of course Harry's dastardly family are all conspiring against him.

And if you believe that, why on earth would you want Harry to return to Britain?

upinaballoon · 03/05/2025 11:11

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 03/05/2025 11:01

As far as I am aware he gets full protection via Ravec if he gives 28 days’ notice.
I am sure if it were an emergency it would get sorted.
But he wants it whenever he decides to visit, on his terms.
We don’t just have a team of highly trained protection officers sitting in a bunker waiting for him to take over.
He could easily slip into this country with his family without fanfare but the fact is they his wife wants the fanfare. Her personal brand relies upon it.
It is the status he wants.
I do get that he has a unique space in world history as Diana’s son. She was the most famous person on the planet at one point and her death made that fame eternal.

Do you think Meghan really would want to come over? I can see that Harry might like to bring the children to see the U.K.
I am deliberately not talking about the security aspect here. I was thinking only about their feelings.

Idontpostmuch · 03/05/2025 11:12

LittleBearPad · 02/05/2025 17:55

Perhaps if he shut up, stopped giving interviews and engaged his brain the King might be more inclined to speak to him

I agree with you, @TasWair. I don't think of him as 'elderly'. You're probably younger than me. His mother was 'elderly'. These days many people in their 70s lead active lives. Yet he has cancer, is not exactly young, and even before his health problems remarked that he was in his final days. I agree no parent should refuse to speak to their child, whatever the circumstances, and indeed no normal parent would. But the royals are far from normal. Also, we only have Harry's word for it.

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